List Mgmt. 2016 Free Agency/Trades/Draft thread Part 2

[ad victoriam]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/09/16/north-leads-the-hunt-for-lyons-signature/

Intresting
North Melbourne has emerged as a potential landing spot for Adelaide Crow Jarryd Lyons.

The 24-year-old, who gathered 23 disposals and kicked a goal to help sink the Roos in a lopsided elimination final last Saturday night, is likely to be a victim of Adelaide’s salary cap squeeze in the wake of long-term deals signed by Josh Jenkins and Brad Crouch.

If true do we have any left for a trade.

 

[baldandbroke]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/09/16/north-leads-the-hunt-for-lyons-signature/

The drums are beating?

 

[Vhaluus]

Intresting
North Melbourne has emerged as a potential landing spot for Adelaide Crow Jarryd Lyons.

The 24-year-old, who gathered 23 disposals and kicked a goal to help sink the Roos in a lopsided elimination final last Saturday night, is likely to be a victim of Adelaide’s salary cap squeeze in the wake of long-term deals signed by Josh Jenkins and Brad Crouch.

If true do we have any left for a trade.

Our cap space isn't nearly as wide open as some people think.

 

[baldandbroke]

Intresting
North Melbourne has emerged as a potential landing spot for Adelaide Crow Jarryd Lyons.

The 24-year-old, who gathered 23 disposals and kicked a goal to help sink the Roos in a lopsided elimination final last Saturday night, is likely to be a victim of Adelaide’s salary cap squeeze in the wake of long-term deals signed by Josh Jenkins and Brad Crouch.

If true do we have any left for a trade.

Such rubbish that we are in a squeeze, that won't be the reason Lyons moves on.

 

[ad victoriam]

And one version going around is the big change is because they have got to move some on with the 2 drug cheats coming back in they don't have the cap space. They already spent big on Rider and Dixon not to mention Pollack when they out bid the Crows.

They have about 500K plus from Ryder and Monfries not playing as Essendon pick up the tab from March onward. Then add Harlett, Shultz and Butcher, and your getting close to a Mill. with the rest its 1.5 easy,

 

[Allefgib]

Just doing Allefgib a favour

Coppery bronze today nik?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Intresting
North Melbourne has emerged as a potential landing spot for Adelaide Crow Jarryd Lyons.

The 24-year-old, who gathered 23 disposals and kicked a goal to help sink the Roos in a lopsided elimination final last Saturday night, is likely to be a victim of Adelaide’s salary cap squeeze in the wake of long-term deals signed by Josh Jenkins and Brad Crouch.

If true do we have any left for a trade.

Geesus ....since when did we believe the media as the encyclopedia of what's happening secretly with the clubs list management walls ......list Managers wouldn't even be mentioning this at all in player manager discussions .......no reasons given, just we would consider a trade for player X

 

[ad victoriam]

Such rubbish that we are in a squeeze, that won't be the reason Lyons moves on.

How much of last year Cap did we spend. what %
And it has been mention several times they are waiting on the AFLPA deal to work out what left to pay.
Are we tight or not Vic media believes we are tight , SA media are saying nothing, and the Crows won't let nothing out.

Edited to improve the gamma. I hope.

 

[Elite Crow]

Still pick 29 of all the open for selection players.

It's only a cosmetic change with academy players.

I've gone over this but, if we ended up having pick 35 we end up having pick 35.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

How much of last year Cap did we spend. what %
And it has been mention several times they are waiting on the AFLPA deal to work out what left to pay.
Are we tight or not Vic media believes we, SA media saying nothing and the Crow won't let nothing out.

You're talking a lot of rubbish today .....again this statement by your own admission makes no sense

So we're not letting anything out ......but the Vic media know exactly what's going on .....cmon man lets use a bit of nouse here and common logic please

 

[Golumless]

I've gone over this but, if we ended up having pick 35 we end up having pick 35.

I saw as i read through; i disagree with your statement as it has the feel of someone whinging that the sun came up one minute later than expected.

Unless of course we're using that pick for f/s, or to bid for an academy player; then your whinging is justified.

 

[ad victoriam]

I've gone over this but, if we ended up having pick 35 we end up having pick 35.

Yes that right, But I am hoping that GWS, GC, Bris and Syd, use the early picks on Academy kids leaving us to compete with what left of the Vic, SA and WA kids.
Pick 35 could put a Scharenberg, Graham in our reach. those 4 clubs have 13 picks before 35. and will need to use a few for points.

 

[ad victoriam]

You're talking a lot of rubbish today .....again this statement by your own admission makes no sense

So we're not letting anything out ......but the Vic media know exactly what's going on .....cmon man lets use a bit of nouse here and common logic please

Question then. are we tight or not, we defiantly use more than 95%, so how much is left. And do we have enough for a top trade.
It is important and not rubbish more so if the AFLPA agreement is not sign off before the trade period. Because what happens do we have to run of last years cap or do the AFL raise the Cap in agreement with the AFLPA.
salary cap 10,600,000 if we used 95% that would leave 530,000. add in JJ, Matt and Brad, how much do we have.

How important is the AFLPA agreement ie Pay rise, and how much of that rise must be added to existing contracts.
And yes I could been better at my gamma/spelling in the that and other posts.

 

[Elite Crow]

I saw as i read through; i disagree with your statement as it has the feel of someone whinging that the sun came up one minute later than expected.

Unless of course we're using that pick for f/s, or to bid for an academy player; then your whinging is justified.

You disagree that pick 35 isn't pick 35, okay.

I need some of that positivity you've been taking because it must be good shit.

 

[Golumless]

You disagree that pick 35 isn't pick 35, okay.

I need some of that positivity you've been taking because it must be good shit.

It's not even positivity; it's taking into account that neither F/s or Academies affects the draft pool that we can select from, so in the scenario stated it is effectively pick 29.

The 29th dip into that pool of draftees that every club is fighting over.

 

[Sanders]

"We actually had him 3rd on our list"

But David he was your 4th pick you made on draft day

Don't care it was very crowded in the top 3 on our list.

 

[Crouch#44]

How many players after tonight's game will be subject to trade rumours for the crows

 

[Elite Crow]

It's not even positivity; it's taking into account that neither F/s or Academies affects the draft pool that we can select from, so in the scenario stated it is effectively pick 29.

The 29th dip into that pool of draftees that every club is fighting over.

It doesn't matter what the pool is, we've selected the 35th player and generally as you go further into the draft that means lesser quality.

So if we are trading for a pick we need to take that into account.

 

[Sanders]

It's not even positivity; it's taking into account that neither F/s or Academies affects the draft pool that we can select from, so in the scenario stated it is effectively pick 29.

The 29th dip into that pool of draftees that every club is fighting over.

The pool is the pool is the pool

We wanted to take Himmelberg with our pick 16, but weren't allowed to. We had to take the next best player at 17

Both players make up the 2015 draft pool

 

[big78sam]

We would have been stupid to use less than 99% we would have front loaded to make room for next year

 

[Bicks]

Friday, 16 September 2016
Jayden Laverde signs a new two-year deal with the Bombers that will keep him at the club until the end of 2018.
Callum Twomey for AFL.com.au

 

[Elite Crow]

The pool is the pool is the pool

We wanted to take Himmelberg with our pick 16, but weren't allowed to. We had to take the next best player at 17

Both players make up the 2015 draft pool

I was just going to post this same example, it sums it up perfectly.

 

[Sanders]

I was just going to post this same example, it sums it up perfectly.

We didn't get the 16th bite of the cherry, we got the 17th go

GWS jumped the queue and took a bite in front of us.

There is no coherent way to argue we still took the 16th best player

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Todd Goldstein going to get prised out of North Melbourne?

 

[Elite Crow]

Todd Goldstein going to get prised out of North Melbourne?

He's getting on as well isn't he?

North going for a complete rebuild if true.