List Mgmt. 2016 Free Agency/Trades/Draft thread Part 3

[tinman]

Gibbs, Carl 3rd for 13, Lyons

Who'd be happy with that?

Hopefully Gibbs's wife

 

[Vhaluus]

I would suggest he'd certainly be your second best midfielder behind Sloane.

Second best midfielder, yes.

but our midfield is Sloane, a few kids and a bunch of guys who shouldn't be playing AFL football.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Nah, he's not better than Talia, Tex, Betts and I'd say even Laird. He would be our second best mid though unless Brad comes on as expected.

Laird & Talia play easier roles. The best KPD in the competition is not a better player than the 40th best midfielder

Betts plays a niche, icing on the cake role.

Tex at his best I'll grant you but we haven't seen it for a while.

 

[Vhaluus]

Laird & Talia play easier roles. The best KPD in the competition is not a better player than the 40th best midfielder

Betts plays a niche, icing on the cake role.

Tex at his best I'll grant you but we haven't seen it for a while.

what a bizarre opinion.

 

[douglyzia]

Assuming the Gibbs rumours are for real, what are the chances we'll pay more for Gibbs than Geelong did for Dangerfield?

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Assuming the Gibbs rumours are for real, what are the chances we'll pay more for Gibbs than Geelong did for Dangerfield?

No, no, no. please no!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

what a bizarre opinion.

How? We aren't that good. Quite even, but few absolute A Graders where it counts.

Fletcher Roberts and Joel Hamling are pemiership key defenders.

 

[Scorpus]

Assuming the Gibbs rumours are for real, what are the chances we'll pay more for Gibbs than Geelong did for Dangerfield?

With David Noble gone, hopefully low

 

[Tex200]

How? We aren't that good. Quite even, but few absolute A Graders where it counts.

Fletcher Roberts and Joel Hamling are pemiership key defenders.

So were Harry Taylor and Andrew Mackie.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So were Harry Taylor and Andrew Mackie.

Tom Lonergan you mean

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Tom Lonergan you mean

Ben Marsh.

 

[rezagun]

Relax people were not selling the farm for bryce

 

[Vhaluus]

No, no, no. please no!

I was referring to the idea that defense is a much easier position.

If midfielders were such better players than defenders why have we recently spent two of our first round draft picks on defenders?

 

[Vhaluus]

Relax people were not selling the farm for bryce

Is this your feeling or you got some information on it?

 

[Bicks]

Ben Marsh.

Aaron Keating?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I was referring to the idea that defense is a much easier position.

If midfielders were such better players than defenders why have we recently spent two of our first round draft picks on defenders?

Why indeed

Not that we've drafted bad players. They both look great. But there's a limit to how much influence a defender can have on the game whereas quality midfields get it done when it counts.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Gibbs would be our second best player IMO after Sloane

Well you don't want to look at the Gibbs thread on the trading board then. One Carlton poster is trying to argue Gibbs is equal to Sloane.

 

[Vhaluus]

Well you don't want to look at the Gibbs thread on the trading board then. One Carlton poster is trying to argue Gibbs is equal to Sloane.

I'd love to see how they back that one up.

 

[Vhaluus]

Why indeed

Not that we've drafted bad players. They both look great. But there's a limit to how much influence a defender can have on the game whereas quality midfields get it done when it counts.

A poor midfield leaves you as vulnerable as a bad defense, not more, not less.

You can't have one part of the ground that is too poor or the disadvantage in that area outweighs the advantage in all others.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Why not just CEY/Lyons in a straight swap? Keep any picks we have.

Highly doubt we can get rid of our off-cuts for Gibbs ......Carlton will need picks for their GWS swoop, so a pick, probably first will have to be in play

 

[rezagun]

Is this your feeling or you got some information on it?

My gut feel from what ive heard. Lyons will net us a pick in the 20s. Imo we will couple that pick with a player like cey to get a high teens pick which we will move to carlton for gibbs. Carlton are in rebuild. They want draft picks. We want to hold onto pick 13.

 

[Don Muraco]

Relax people were not selling the farm for bryce

We're selling it to China

 

[mattymac]

I was referring to the idea that defense is a much easier position.

If midfielders were such better players than defenders why have we recently spent two of our first round draft picks on defenders?

Our drafting policy isn't needs based in the first round. We always go best available.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

A poor midfield leaves you as vulnerable as a bad defense, not more, not less.

You can't have one part of the ground that is too poor or the disadvantage in that area outweighs the advantage in all others.

Sure, you want good players everywhere. But you can get by with Hamling, Roberts, Cordy in peripheral roles. Key midfield roles you can't skimp.

We've done it backwards. We've gone for a blue chip defence with a workmanlike midfield.

 

[Mego Red]

I was referring to the idea that defense is a much easier position.

If midfielders were such better players than defenders why have we recently spent two of our first round draft picks on defenders?

Christ, don't get DABM started on that.