List Mgmt. 2016 List Management: Contracts, Trading, Drafting, Academy

[isamedthegiants]

I would trade Marchbank And Steele for Lids

 

[captainMyCaptain]

I would trade Marchbank And Steele for Lids

Only if the tigers were paying a majority of Lids wage to play for us

 

[Andre the Giant]

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Surely you jest, he would be on massive coin

 

[isamedthegiants]

Surely you jest, he would be on massive coin

Of course I am.

 

[scanlon]

So is the general perception that Patton is off limits still in tact? With Essendon claiming that pick 1 is up for trade, what sort of deal do you think is fair involving Patton if it went ahead?

 

[dlanod]

So is the general perception that Patton is off limits still in tact? With Essendon claiming that pick 1 is up for trade, what sort of deal do you think is fair involving Patton if it went ahead?

There's a thread dedicated for that, but it isn't this one.

 

[IanW]

So is the general perception that Patton is off limits still in tact? With Essendon claiming that pick 1 is up for trade, what sort of deal do you think is fair involving Patton if it went ahead?

Thank you, but we do not wish to destroy our club's culture by shopping Patton in return for a pick we don't need.

We're sitting on Collingwood's first, Geelong's first, our first, Adelaide's second and out second, and there are several players with value who will probably be leaving.

If Essendon really, really want a key forward, go draft one with the #1 pick. There's one sitting there.

 

[Andre the Giant]

A mate of mine who is generally an imbecile is suggesting General and Tommo to Carlton for their 1st and Gibbs.

Whether any substance not sure...

 

[Determinant]

A mate of mine who is generally an imbecile is suggesting General and Tommo to Carlton for their 1st and Gibbs.

Whether any substance not sure...

We don't need mids

 

[Colonial]

A mate of mine who is generally an imbecile is suggesting General and Tommo to Carlton for their 1st and Gibbs.

Whether any substance not sure...

Tommo yes, but General????

 

[Andre the Giant]

Tommo yes, but General????

I must again qualify this by saying the guy is a numnuts. He does have mates in and around Carlton though.

I agree Tommo is obvious but General is core, love him to bits

 

[Andre the Giant]

We don't need mids

Agreed, the scuttlebutt is that he would eventually succeed Heater as he is 3 years younger. It's probably crapola

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

the guy is a numnuts.

'Nuff said.

I don't care if he has mates at Carlton - you forget the guy who's dad is Thommo's dad's dentist (or chiropractor I forget) who reckons he is off to Norf. Or all those Richmond insiders who who had first, Tyson and then Shiel heading to Tigerland. Or the Hawthorn insiders who reckon Whitfield will become a Hawk.

I've finally learned to let it all just was off me and wait to see what happens.

I do know that I don't want Gibbs.

I don't want players at all. I'm happy to dance with the ones what brung us. And to build from our academies. Bring 'em through from the juniors and keep 'em. If a Stevie J bobs up for a pack of chips, then I'd consider them but unless you got picks and points, I don't care what players you're offering.

 

[Bokonon]

If I could like this twice I would. Every time we recruit a player I just worry about whose gotta go.I'm kinda attached to the ones we have.

 

[Andre the Giant]

'Nuff said.

I don't care if he has mates at Carlton - you forget the guy who's dad is Thommo's dad's dentist (or chiropractor I forget) who reckons he is off to Norf. Or all those Richmond insiders who who had first, Tyson and then Shiel heading to Tigerland. Or the Hawthorn insiders who reckon Whitfield will become a Hawk.

I've finally learned to let it all just was off me and wait to see what happens.

I do know that I don't want Gibbs.

I don't want players at all. I'm happy to dance with the ones what brung us. And to build from our academies. Bring 'em through from the juniors and keep 'em. If a Stevie J bobs up for a pack of chips, then I'd consider them but unless you got picks and points, I don't care what players you're offering.

Don't disagree with any of that.

We do need to continue to infuse experience and replace experience that finishes up but you're quite right about just waiting and seeing.

Salary cap is a major issue, a bloke like Gibbs would be 550 I would imagine maybe 650 to make him leave so unless part of his salary was paid (why would Carlton do that?) it doesn't appear feasible.

I think looking at our list if anything Defence now looks quite solid. If Marchbank goes he is probably replaced by Macreadie, our small defenders are the best in the comp.

I still think we need a Lead up forward if we can't teach one of Jezza, General or Lobb to be that player....a mobile 6'1-6'2 bloke that would be a point of difference but at the moment Toby and Stevie J are kind of providing the goals. Thinking Stevie J should go around again right now as he has been unbelievable.

Other than that a good small forward/wing...WHE and Pickett should be that bloke but injuries have cursed them.

No need for much change but ambition and salary cap means it is an inevitability.

 

[dlanod]

I still think we need a Lead up forward if we can't teach one of Jezza, General or Lobb to be that player....a mobile 6'1-6'2 bloke that would be a point of difference but at the moment Toby and Stevie J are kind of providing the goals. Thinking Stevie J should go around again right now as he has been unbelievable.

Patton could be that player. He played the style before his injuries and even now he'll pull out a great lead and get hit up several times a game... it's just that he spills the mark more often now.

 

[IanW]

Salary cap is a major issue, a bloke like Gibbs would be 550 I would imagine maybe 650 to make him leave so unless part of his salary was paid (why would Carlton do that?) it doesn't appear feasible.

Carlton would do it because we paid them draft picks to do it.

For example, imagine a deal of Gibbs for Tomlinson heads up - thats unders for Carlton. Gibbs for Tomlinson and the Geelong pick probably evens it up.

On the other side, Gibbs with half his salary paid by Carlton for Tomlinson and the much higher Collingwood pick makes you go 'hmmm'.

Im just using that as an example.

The AFL has a 'no rules' salary cap. You can frontload, mid-load and backload, as long as the club hits the salary band each year. Heck, you can even move salary money off-cap by offering coaching roles.

GWS is good at this. Its been one of the keys for how we can keep the playing group together.

 

[gee whiz giant]

I still think we need a Lead up forward if we can't teach one of Jezza, General or Lobb to be that player....a mobile 6'1-6'2 bloke that would be a point of difference but at the moment Toby and Stevie J are kind of providing the goals. Thinking Stevie J should go around again right now as he has been unbelievable.

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No. 20 for the Giants should be given one last go in that role, 3 weeks in against Essendon, Carlton & Collingwood. If he doesn't fire,we know there's absolutely nowhere on the park that suits him..

 

[coniglio_number1]

When does phil Scully and breakfast point get taken off the salary cap?

 

[dlanod]

When does phil Scully and breakfast point get taken off the salary cap?

Breakfast Point would've come off as the guys moved out.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Carlton would do it because we paid them draft picks to do it.

For example, imagine a deal of Gibbs for Tomlinson heads up - thats unders for Carlton. Gibbs for Tomlinson and the Geelong pick probably evens it up.

On the other side, Gibbs with half his salary paid by Carlton for Tomlinson and the much higher Collingwood pick makes you go 'hmmm'.

Im just using that as an example.

The AFL has a 'no rules' salary cap. You can frontload, mid-load and backload, as long as the club hits the salary band each year. Heck, you can even move salary money off-cap by offering coaching roles.

GWS is good at this. Its been one of the keys for how we can keep the playing group together.

Well it is is doable than Gibbs fits the profile of a bloke to bring in. He is 27 and in the best form of his career. Carlton is a waste of time for him because they will be in their next window well after he has retired. He would be a nice player to have swinging back and forth and taking pressure off our blokes getting tagged. Eventually he would make a nice general down back to take over from Heater remember Heater is on massive coin and we will struggle to retain him if he wants the same dough on his next deal (will be pretty old then anyway.

 

[IanW]

Well it is is doable than Gibbs fits the profile of a bloke to bring in. He is 27 and in the best form of his career. Carlton is a waste of time for him because they will be in their next window well after he has retired. He would be a nice player to have swinging back and forth and taking pressure off our blokes getting tagged. Eventually he would make a nice general down back to take over from Heater remember Heater is on massive coin and we will struggle to retain him if he wants the same dough on his next deal.

I dont think Gibbs is gettable, and Im not sure we want him - Im just using that as an example of how you can turn draft picks into cap room.

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

Simple question on Gibbs... Who do you drop to fit him in? Who goes out of this side to give him a game?

Anyone? Anyone?

Didn't think so.

 

[dlanod]

Simple question on Gibbs... Who do you drop to fit him in? Who goes out of this side to give him a game?

Anyone? Anyone?

Didn't think so.

Hopper. To be honest, Griffen too.

 

[Ellie Aquitaine]

Breakfast Point would've come off as the guys moved out.

Don't our first year recruits live there still?