List Mgmt. 2016 List Management: Contracts, Trading, Drafting, Academy

[peters17]

So if things go as expected Ahern could well be the last man standing from our '14 draft

If he stands at all

 

[Gigantor]

AFter Rory, Steele is the one I most wanted to keep, he's pretty much ready to go, so just one long-term injury, and he'd spend the whole season in the seniors.

 

[coniglio_number1]

AFter Rory, Steele is the one I most wanted to keep, he's pretty much ready to go, so just one long-term injury, and he'd spend the whole season in the seniors.

except he is a classic case of too good for reserves but not good enough to be first choice 22. we also regularly selected kennedy or hopper over him so the future is secure.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

 

[TallyHawk]

Gents, just wanted to get your thoughts on Jake Barrett and why he may be considered gettable. Apart from the quality of your midfield what features does Jake need to work on?

Is he a good kick, can he play back,forward and midfield?

His Cousin Bruest took a little while to come on Jake might be the same.

 

[coniglio_number1]

Gents, just wanted to get your thoughts on Jake Barrett and why he may be considered gettable. Apart from the quality of your midfield what features does Jake need to work on?

Is he a good kick, can he play back,forward and midfield?

His Cousin Bruest took a little while to come on Jake might be the same.

His issue is that he is a meat and potatoes midfielder/half forward. Has no real point of difference such as pace, burst speed, endurance, height, overhead marking etc

Strong tackler with ok to good disposal.

 

[TallyHawk]

His issue is that he is a meat and potatoes midfielder/half forward. Has no real point of difference such as pace, burst speed, endurance, height, overhead marking etc

Strong tackler with ok to good disposal.

Cheers, might be worth chasing as our midfield makes a transition next year.

 

[Ellie Aquitaine]

Gents, just wanted to get your thoughts on Jake Barrett and why he may be considered gettable. Apart from the quality of your midfield what features does Jake need to work on?

Is he a good kick, can he play back,forward and midfield?

His Cousin Bruest took a little while to come on Jake might be the same.

Needs exposure to a better standard than NEAFL to see if he can make the leap. His decision making isn't at AFL standard, so maybe some time at Box Hill will benefit him going forward.

 

[GiantOrange]

Everyone getting ready for a crazy two weeks of shit talk.

 

[Colonial]

Everyone getting ready for a crazy two weeks of shit talk.

 

[coniglio_number1]

So my current pre trade period opinions of what will happen to this list of out of contract players

Senior List
#11 Jack Steele - trade to saints
#24 Joel Patfull - possible retirement
#26 Dawson Simpson - Delist
#28 Jake Barrett - trade to Hawks/port
#34 Caleb Marchbank - trade to Carlton
#36 James Stewart - Trade to Carlton
#39 Tim Mohr - Rookie downgrade
#42 Patrick Mckenna - trade to Carlton
#44 Tom Downie - will re-sign

 

[Colonial]

So my current pre trade period opinions of what will happen to this list of out of contract players

Senior List
#11 Jack Steele - trade to saints
#24 Joel Patfull - possible retirement
#26 Dawson Simpson - Delist
#28 Jake Barrett - trade to Hawks/port
#34 Caleb Marchbank - trade to Carlton
#36 James Stewart - Trade to Carlton
#39 Tim Mohr - Rookie downgrade
#42 Patrick Mckenna - trade to Carlton
#44 Tom Downie - will re-sign

Thatll get our list down.

 

[coniglio_number1]

Thatll get our list down.

Also will free up a massive chunk of the cap

 

[Colonial]

Also will free up a massive chunk of the cap

Yep. Big concern now we are on even stevens.
Despite my usual "defend yourselves" attitude to trade week. It is an interesting one this year now we know we have to lose a hell of a chunk especially with all those academy grads

 

[coniglio_number1]

Yep. Big concern now we are on even stevens.
Despite my usual "defend yourselves" attitude to trade week. It is an interesting one this year now we know we have to lose a hell of a chunk especially with all those academy grads

As much as I would love to keep our depth players such as WHE and Pickett, We are a team that is pushing for a premiership and any player that sits outside the 22 and heavily well remunerated should be up for discussion.

A large intake of minimum wage draftees will allow us to make a play for a top quality player that fills a specific need. To be honest I don't see any glaring holes that need immediate filling in our list but I am very mindful of Johnson and his age. Bruest would be an excellent addition as long as we get a percentage of his salary paid for by the Hawks.

Mumford has an almost like for like replacement in Flynn in terms of playing style so I'm not fussed about chasing a replacement ruck.

 

[coniglio_number1]

Also my very early thoughts on the 2017 OOC list

Jacob Hopper - re-sign
Dylan Shiel - re-sign
Rhys Palmer - trade
Devon smith - re-sign
Jon Patton - re-sign
Paul Ahern - trade
Jarrod Pickett - trade this offseason
Matt Kennedy - re-sign
Steve Johnson - sign as a coach
Adam Tomlinson - re-sign if best 22
Matt Buntine - depends on A.Kennedy
Josh Kelly - re-sign
Cam McCarthy - trade this offseason
Harry Himmelberg - re-sign
Zac Williams - re-sign
Matt Flynn - re-sign
Jeremy Finlayson - re-sign if best 22
Will Hoskin-Elliott - trade this offseason
Adam Kennedy - depends on buntine

 

[coniglio_number1]

Hypothetical list view if the trades/retirements/drafting goes as I think it will

Seniors

FB: Haynes -- Davis -- Shaw

HB: Williams -- Tomlinson -- Wilson

CT: Scully -- Coniglio -- Whitfield

HF: Greene -- Cameron -- Smith

FF: Lobb -- Patton -- Johnson

RR: Mumford -- Ward -- Shiel

Int: M.Kennedy -- Kelly -- Griffen -- Hopper

Reserves

FB: Mohr -- Corr -- Buntine

HB: A.Kennedy -- Finlayson -- Macreadie

CT: Perryman -- Setterfield -- Byrne

HF: Reid -- Himmelberg -- Ahern

FF: Pickett -- Downie -- Lloyd

RR: Flynn -- Palmer -- Mutch

Int: Sproule -- Garthwaite -- Fisher --
Owen-Auburn/Tiziani

 

[captainMyCaptain]

FREMANTLE could send its No.3 selection in next month's NAB AFL Draft to Greater Western Sydney as part of a series of pick swaps to land young forward Cam McCarthy.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-09/trade-wrap-dockers-set-to-part-with-pick-no3

 

[coniglio_number1]

Interesting that freo supporters were spruiking that we will be lucky to get a third round selection. But we could get third pick overall?

 

[LP7_]

So my current pre trade period opinions of what will happen to this list of out of contract players

Senior List
#11 Jack Steele - trade to saints
#24 Joel Patfull - possible retirement
#26 Dawson Simpson - Delist
#28 Jake Barrett - trade to Hawks/port
#34 Caleb Marchbank - trade to Carlton
#36 James Stewart - Trade to Carlton
#39 Tim Mohr - Rookie downgrade
#42 Patrick Mckenna - trade to Carlton
#44 Tom Downie - will re-sign

What would be a fair trade for Barrett if he were to head our way in your opinion? I like the look of him.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

What would be a fair trade for Barrett if he were to head our way in your opinion? I like the look of him.

4th round pick should get it done

 

[LP7_]

4th round pick should get it done

I'd be extremely happy with that.

 

[peters17]

Interesting that freo supporters were spruiking that we will be lucky to get a third round selection. But we could get third pick overall?

Obviously not a straight swap. Should be a few pick swaps.

 

[gee whiz giant]

Also my very early thoughts on the 2017 OOC list



Matt Buntine - depends on A.Kennedy

Adam Kennedy - depends on buntine

That's what I'm looking for in a close-knitted team

 

[Giant Strides]

Hmmm, had thought that pick-swap option was a possibility previously (obviously Freo posters vehemently disagreed!) - more thinking 3 & Sunshine for 7, which would be equivalent of a mid second round pick in value, to pick up Marshall when Marshall was looking a likely top 10. I would think it less useful now if we're looking for McGrath, because he'll go at pick 2 to Brisbane IMHO so pick 3 won't be much help. And swapping 3 & 5 for 2 (if we also did the Carlton trade) seems too steep a price, even if pick 19 came back - that's a 647 point premium. Pick 3 & 15 or 16 would be less useful to Brisbane, although 3 + 15 for 2 + 29 still gives them 2 first round picks in lieu of a first & a second for only losing one spot & a 176 point premium in value, and provided they are willing to forego McGrath (because they'll know presumably from the rumours that's who we're targeting) it still leaves them in front of Gold Coast ('cos they may wish to bid on Bowes). I guess there's a number of options that the GWS will have going into the trade period, and all other clubs will have their thoughts. No doubt there will be something unexpected occur!

EDIT: Mind you, any trade with Freo for pick 3 does require that they pull their heads out of their collective arses and understand what a reasonable trade is. Suggestion is pick 3 for picks 5 (from Carlton), 15 & McCarthy. That's paying 2990 points for a 2234 value pick (756 point premium) and just giving them McCarthy. We may as well just delist McCarthy - or I'd prefer give him to West Coast for a low pick. Though I can't say I'm surprised about their entitled mentality after last year's shenanigans.