2016 Non-Crows AFL Discussion - Cont. in Part 2 (link in OP)

[azza77]

Yeah, suddenly I'm feeling much more optimistic about next week - if we are switched on we will beat the Bulldogs. Our home game against North is starting to look like a very intriguing return clash - will they beat us in Adelaide for the first time in a long time?

No Murphy, no JJ and no Suckling. We should be looking to make their life living hell getting out of the backline. They've lost 3 very quick and very skilful players there.

Pile on the pressure and and the turnovers will come.

There's no better time to play them with that many running defenders out of a side that relies heavily on it's run and carry counter attack style play.

 

[footy4ever]

LOL, According to the latest news the Chinese consortium trying to purchase the Kidman land have spat the dummy and pulled out of the deal altogether.

It'll be very interesting to see if Port's gob-smacker lasts more than the initial 3 years in China. I'm thinking not.

 

[Cap]

They're an international brand now

I know it's a choice between Man U and Port these days.

 

[1970crow]

I don't know. I can't find evidence of that but I look forward to reading what you have discovered.

"The Crows 2014 Financial Report states:

20 Significant transactions

On the 27 March 2014 the Company entered into a series of transactions with the South Australian National Football League (SANFL), Australian Football League (AFL) and South Australian Government (Govt). These transactions have impacted the financial statements for the year ended 31 October 2014. They include:

• The Company's constitution was amended in March 2014 when the Company gained independence from its traditional owner, the SANFL. The sole voting member is now the AFL.

The Company previously participated in the AFL under a sub-license arrangement with the SANFL. Sub-lease payments were recognised as an operating expense when incurred and committed payments were disclosed in the financial report. This sub-license was terminated.

The AFL has issued a license to the Adelaide Football Club Ltd to field a team in the Australian Football League.

The Company has supported grassroots football in South Australia since 1991 and has agreed to continue to support the development of football in South Australia through a Game Development Grant payable to the SANFL for the next 15 years. A liability has been recognised for these future payments and discounted to present value.

The SANFL granted a rent free lease to the AFC to occupy its headquarters and training facilities at West Lakes until until 2048."

At the press announcement following the SMA Review, it was declared that the value of the rent-free lease agreement was $2m a year.

You can read Rucci's snarky comments about this here: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-crows-and-power/story-fnia3nqh-1226874077366

All seems pretty competent and reasonable results. Which I know is far less exciting than Monday-morning quarterbacking and criticisms, but frankly they should be saved for when they're relevant.

Oh, and by the way? What the f*** does "don't hide away" mean? I've engaged in a friendly manner with every patronizing, arrogant statement you've made, so I've hardly hidden away. Frankly, there's very little in what you've posted that merits discussion, but I've tried to be reasonable. If you're going to act like a complete dick, I'm not sure why anyone would bother responding.

Apologies. But I'm wondering how you can claim something to be of significant benefit or improvement if you don't know what the original deal was. My expectation is that our current deal is no different than the previous deal. If it wasn't, then we would have been outrageously incompetent by investing $22m to improve our leasehold without contractual control of the land. It's highly unlikely that this super deal is any different to the original arrangement, obviously longer but it did give us something to spruik as if we'd had some massive win.

Fact is mate, if you don't know what the original arrangement was then you shouldn't be stating that the current deal is any form of improvement. Do you think we were paying $2m per year prior to this rent free agreement?

 

[AFC3000]

Looked in intersport at afl gear yesterday.

A port Guernsey was fifteen bucks more than a crows guernsey and five bucks dearer than everyone elses. Port hats scarfs,t shirts were all more expensive

Port leaning on the supporters for extra cash? should raise membership prices with all the demand... but it wouldn't look good when numbers dropped off.

Here is another interesting one, our clubs ticket buy back amount (top) vs. theirs. $1.50? why would you bother.

 

[GROTTO]

Port leaning on the supporters for extra cash? should raise membership prices with all the demand... but it wouldn't look good when numbers dropped off.

Here is another interesting one, our clubs ticket buy back amount (top) vs. theirs. $1.50? why would you bother.

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Why wouldnt you increase the cashback offer on the proviso that the ticket is sold and also sold at a premium price so both the original owner, the Club and the ticketing agency all go away with some extra cash?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Port leaning on the supporters for extra cash? should raise membership prices with all the demand... but it wouldn't look good when numbers dropped off.

Here is another interesting one, our clubs ticket buy back amount (top) vs. theirs. $1.50? why would you bother.

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How does the ticket buy back work?

 

[AFC3000]

Why wouldnt you increase the cashback offer on the proviso that the ticket is sold and also sold at a premium price so both the original owner, the Club and the ticketing agency all go away with some extra cash?

I think it is only if the ticket is sold, so no risk for the clubs. Ports page says its credit towards next years membership, ours is cash back to a nominated bank account.

 

[AFC3000]

How does the ticket buy back work?

Reserved members login, click return seat, if it is sold to the general public the club passes on the listed amount to the ticket holder.

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2016-04-12/seat-return-and-transfer-open

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Reserved members login, click return seat, if it is sold to the general public the club passes on the listed amount to the ticket holder.

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2016-04-12/seat-return-and-transfer-open

Great idea .....but why Tuesday? ....i'm sure some only realise late b4 a game that they cannot attend ...for admin purposes, wouldn't 3 days b4 a game be better .....so if a Sunday game it would be notification by Thursday

BTW can members transfer tickets now for AO games?

 

[VSTone]

Will GWS get a reactionary ride from the umps today?

what will the umpires pull out of their arse today i wonder?

east-west, deliberate out of bounds, prohibited contact... so many bullshit frees...

i'm all for taking the peas out of their whistles...
play the obvious ones that everyone sees, don't make shit up!

 

[Pea Nut]

Great idea .....but why Tuesday? ....i'm sure some only realise late b4 a game that they cannot attend ...for admin purposes, wouldn't 3 days b4 a game be better .....so if a Sunday game it would be notification by Thursday

BTW can members transfer tickets now for AO games?

The ticket agencies aren't organised enough to have logical systems like this in place !!

 

[AFC3000]

Great idea .....but why Tuesday? ....i'm sure some only realise late b4 a game that they cannot attend ...for admin purposes, wouldn't 3 days b4 a game be better .....so if a Sunday game it would be notification by Thursday

BTW can members transfer tickets now for AO games?

Agree with you, would think it would all be automated and immediate, should be no reason you can't release a ticket on a Thursday and someone buys it the next day or gameday.

Makes me wonder if a ticket is given back on a Tuesday what day does it go on sale? could be just a 1 or 2 day window. Seems like it only really works if you have planned time away or there are time slots you can never get to.

 

[arrowman]

LOL, According to the latest news the Chinese consortium trying to purchase the Kidman land have spat the dummy and pulled out of the deal altogether.

It'll be very interesting to see if Port's gob-smacker lasts more than the initial 3 years in China. I'm thinking not.

Over on the Port board someone thinks that an "Australian entity" should ask the PAFC for an introduction to Mr Gui for a fee, and then when it's successful, PAFC carries Kidman branding for a 7 figure annual sponsorship.

No, really.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The ticket agencies aren't organised enough to have logical systems like this in place !!

Ahh .....so it's not about the fans .....it's about what suits the corporations .....i get it now

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Will GWS get a reactionary ride from the umps today?

what will the umpires pull out of their arse today i wonder?

east-west, deliberate out of bounds, prohibited contact... so many bullshit frees...

i'm all for taking the peas out of their whistles...
play the obvious ones that everyone sees, don't make shit up!

I've been thinking this all week…what better team to prove the AFL umpires don't favour Hawthorn than the bankrolled AFL Giants.

 

[johnnypanther]

Lol - Kochie is on Gameday on 7 on Sunday.

It's all about you Kochie. It's all about you.

Geez I hope Richmond smash them tonight

 

[Mego Red]

Mmm .......didn't you just say .... "And I try to just post when I've factually got something to contribute, instead of just dribbling"

Ok ....so this was factual, not dribbling and a valid contribution

It's a question, to continue discussion.

Unlike your empty statements of opinion that do nothing but suck the IQ out of the room.

Frankly - I'd like more discussion and less empty opinions, thanks.

 

[GrommoT]

what will the umpires pull out of their arse today i wonder?

east-west, deliberate out of bounds, prohibited contact... so many bullshit frees...

i'm all for taking the peas out of their whistles...
play the obvious ones that everyone sees, don't make shit up!

Wombles, by the sound of things.

 

[PrideOf]

Over on the Port board someone thinks that an "Australian entity" should ask the PAFC for an introduction to Mr Gui for a fee, and then when it's successful, PAFC carries Kidman branding for a 7 figure annual sponsorship.

No, really.

Who is that someone? They really need to be outed for reasons of stupidity.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It's a question, to continue discussion.

Unlike your empty statements of opinion that do nothing but suck the IQ out of the room.

Frankly - I'd like more discussion and less empty opinions, thanks.

Yet you refuse to put me on ignore .....what does that say ? ......just that you're a hypocrite (i'll let you research the meaning)

 

[Mego Red]

Apologies. But I'm wondering how you can claim something to be of significant benefit or improvement if you don't know what the original deal was. My expectation is that our current deal is no different than the previous deal. If it wasn't, then we would have been outrageously incompetent by investing $22m to improve our leasehold without contractual control of the land. It's highly unlikely that this super deal is any different to the original arrangement, obviously longer but it did give us something to spruik as if we'd had some massive win.

Fact is mate, if you don't know what the original arrangement was then you shouldn't be stating that the current deal is any form of improvement. Do you think we were paying $2m per year prior to this rent free agreement?

We only know what the current arrangement is - prime land rent-free until 2048.

Perhaps that was in place previously. Their statements in their financial reports make it sound like it was newly included, but there was no doubt some kind of ongoing commitment must have been there previously.

I highly doubt we were paying $2m, as our total overhead would only be $30m or so.

But we may have been paying something. Or we may not have had the long term security we do now.

It certainly sounds to me that - as was rumored at the time - we received some concessions from the SANFL due to our holding out as long as possible. I genuinely don't think we had rent free facilities until 2048 until we signed this deal.

 

[Tyls83]

It would be interesting to see if the Exers have scored more goals than Carlton so far this year. I'm pretty sure the Exers outscored the entire Carlton team last year.

The exers are well on top again, with Waite and Betts picking up the slack from Kennedy's slowish start to the season z[emoji3]

 

[Mego Red]

Yet you refuse to put me on ignore .....what does that say ? ......just that you're a hypocrite (i'll let you research the meaning)

No, I have you on ignore, don't worry.

Unfortunately on iPhones tapatalk ignore doesn't work.

A real let down for the app, frankly.

And you should maybe look up hypocrite if you think the fact that I have to suffer through your posts in order to get to opinions that have substance makes me any kind of hypocrite. A masochist, maybe.

 

[Elite Crow]

Geez I hope Richmond smash them tonight

That will be one very interesting show, if they do get smashed what's he going to do? Backpedal from applying the blowtorch? That will only make his earlier scrutiny a wasted exercise