2016 Non Crows AFL Discussion thread Part 2

[jenny61_99]

Fair enough. Their "all in" push for a flag failed and so now they're cutting their losses and starting again.

But they've still got finals to play. Is it the final ditch effort to gee the boys up to win?

 

[Deaneus!]

But they've still got finals to play. Is it the final ditch effort to gee the boys up to win?

It could be, i hope they all had their hearing-aid volumes dialed up to 10

 

[Bicks]

Some one in North Melbourne's PR Department has to be the "silly fellow" of the week to announce something like this only 30 minutes after informing the players themselves...beggar's belief you can treat an ornament of the game like Brent Harvey like this, surely he has earnt the right to call his own Press Conference to announce it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k=8e0d37c6ad682d72e20b81ffb6774178-1472012384

 

[hey shorty]

Yeah this has been handled pretty poorly by Norf.

 

[spenze]

I've heard Port are going to sign Firrito as a DFA. Will probably win their B&F next year

 

[Jack is Back]

There's a difference between what you need to do (ie bare minimum) and doing what is the best for the club. Adelaide made those decisions back then based on what they needed to do. Let's see if we have learnt why we haven't won a premiership for 18 years.

Which ageing champions have we allowed to play on for too long?

Ben Hart was certain that he had more AFL footy in him but he was wrong. Smart and Burton went one season too long but were forced to pull the plug part way through the season.

Simon Goodwin was leading the B&F when he was injured in his last season. Macca was still playing good footy when injury cut him down. Tyson Edwards had morphed into Benjamin Button until he lost a marble in the pre-season and struggled due to the impact of the operation and subsequent treatment. The main example of going one season too many back in the Craig era was Roo who should not have been selected for the Hawthorn Final (but try telling that to Roo).

IMHO it happened more frequently under Sando. We kept playing Porps, Stiffy and the Truck when they were cooked and we had KIDS who could have at least matched the output of Dogga and Radar in their last season or two.

I was concerned when we kept playing vB last year but hopefully THE MAESTRO has learnt that lesson after the 2 game experiment this year. Thommo is a line ball decision this year. He has played (and is playing) much better than some of the loonies are suggesting but will he offer more than CEY (or Wigg) in the finals? It's hard to say since CEY has only played one game against the traffic cones and Wigg is yet to debut. I am happy to go with the decision of THE MAESTRO but my gut feel is next year will be one year too long (or four year's too long according to some).

It would be nice for Thommo to finish his career collecting a premiership medal .

 

[Swooping Crow]

I just think that it's a harsh way to announce it. 3 club greats and they get a "we're de-listing them" announcement? Surely Firrito and Petrie deserved to announce their own retirements??

And the Harvey decision is baffling considering he could go again.

LOL, Norf.

 

[Tex200]

Yeah this has been handled pretty poorly by Norf.

Agree to an extent - but players are making it harder and harder to manage.

Because of the money now in the game, players just will not call time, they force clubs into acting.

Will be interesting to see how we handle Thommo

 

[George 13]

I've heard Port are going to sign Firrito as a DFA. Will probably win their B&F next year

AH could this be the missing piece.

 

[Iron]

That is a big out for them ...

We still couldn't beat them with him out, though. Doesn't make much of a difference for us!

 

[hey shorty]

Agree to an extent - but players are making it harder and harder to manage.

Because of the money now in the game, players just will not call time, they force clubs into acting.

Will be interesting to see how we handle Thommo

You let Boomer do his own thing. He's right in the mix to win their BnF and is a legend of the game. The other 3 I get, eapecially NDS as this was a massive error on both parts.

 

[Geoffa32]

Can't wait to hear Boomers speech after winning their BnF........

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[adelaidecrows]

The problem is that some players just go on amd on and on probably because they dont want to believe its over. I think its the right decision. Boomer obviously refused to retire so the club felt it didnt have a choice. North need to move their over 30s on.

 

[Bicks]

Agree to an extent - but players are making it harder and harder to manage.

Because of the money now in the game, players just will not call time, they force clubs into acting.

Will be interesting to see how we handle Thommo

I was talking to Hamish Ogilvie at the Rebels game in Ballarat several weeks ago and enquired about Thommo's future, he basically said quote : "he's been pretty good good again this season but I'm not sure where the club sees it......I'm pretty sure Thommo will want to go on though" : unquote, the last bit said with a broad smile...

 

[rocket18]

But they've still got finals to play. Is it the final ditch effort to gee the boys up to win?

Hope so, especially this week.

Would be human nature to want to prove the coaches wrong and show them how they can still perform.

Go Norf.

 

[Iron]

Getting rid of Harvey is a mistake. He's still their best player. You don't get rid of your best player when you just know he can go on another year or two without too much of a drop off. He's one of those very rare players that lives the mantra - "age is just a number".

The other 3 are going to be liabilities, if they aren't already, and cutting them is the correct decision.

 

[TexForPM]

everytime danger is asked whether the crows are a better team without him he just looks so flat.

who asks him that???
Beautiful journalism

 

[TexForPM]

Patrick only left so he could win a brownlow didn't he?
No chance competing with Sloane.

 

[Crowked]

They keep winning the pre-game and we keep winning the game....so frustrating

If you were at the showdown you had the best of both worlds. Got a good laugh at their prematch soccer fan imitation and your team won a close game.

 

[rezagun]

The funny thing is north still will have waite.

 

[FAITH]

how many footballers are willing to give up a $300-$500k, where else are they gonna earn that type of money?

players are selfish, club has to do whats best.

 

[hippyhippy]

The funny thing is north still will have waite.

Contracted still? I dont even think hes that old. Just very injury prone.

Corection... hes 33!!!

 

[J_Crow]

Getting rid of Harvey is a mistake. He's still their best player. You don't get rid of your best player when you just know he can go on another year or two without too much of a drop off. He's one of those very rare players that lives the mantra - "age is just a number".

Would he still be their best player in 4 years when they start making finals again? I'm just not sure of the point of having a guy running around for another year or two who won't be there when the team becomes successful again.

 

[mattymac]

Why are north being criticised? They 100% did the right thing for their list going forward and they 100% did the right thing going public now so their veterans could get a send off in what will likely be their last game in Melbourne for the year.

 

[Iron]

Would he still be their best player in 4 years when they start making finals again? I'm just not sure of the point of having a guy running around for another year or two who won't be there when the team becomes successful again.

Irrelevant. We aren't talking about a guy who is still giving a bit out on the field - we're talking about their best player. Players like him belong on your list for as long as they keep performing, because they bring more to the club than just their performance.

What you're describing is a playstation list management decision.