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Hey guys just wondered what the word around Kennedy was? If Kelly re signs and Hopper, do you think he will end up out the door with Smith? Sorry for just assuming a few things here, just wondering where you guys see the whole situation.
Smith already stated his desire to stay so we will see with that.

MK is likely to play most of the year with Griffen out and SJ diminishing so he may well stay as well.
 
Hey guys just wondered what the word around Kennedy was? If Kelly re signs and Hopper, do you think he will end up out the door with Smith? Sorry for just assuming a few things here, just wondering where you guys see the whole situation.

It's like dominos, as each player re-signs the chances of the unsigned staying is reduced exponentially.

The Kelly signing is the trigger. If he stays we probably lose at least one of Smith, Hopper or Kennedy. If he goes we may keep 2 or even all 3.

I still think he will stay for the 2 years and some others are pushed out. We will lose Stevie J for next year and no doubt some blokes like Himmelberg who are not getting a run will look elsewhere.

If the others all start signing before Kelly then we can assume he is off to North.
 
It's like dominos, as each player re-signs the chances of the unsigned staying is reduced exponentially.

The Kelly signing is the trigger. If he stays we probably lose at least one of Smith, Hopper or Kennedy. If he goes we may keep 2 or even all 3.

I still think he will stay for the 2 years and some others are pushed out. We will lose Stevie J for next year and no doubt some blokes like Himmelberg who are not getting a run will look elsewhere.

If the others all start signing before Kelly then we can assume he is off to North.

I was hoping we would have a dip at Himmelberg or Kennedy but it seems we have been reluctant in previous years to do so. Kelly would be a big signing for you, think he is the best of the lot.
 

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I was hoping we would have a dip at Himmelberg or Kennedy but it seems we have been reluctant in previous years to do so. Kelly would be a big signing for you, think he is the best of the lot.

Yes Kelly has developed into an elite player and also has elite off the field traits of professionalism.

There is some talk of Himmelberg perhaps wanting to join his brother at the Lions (I think). I'd imagine Adelaide would also be into him as they bid on him (again from memory). From what Ive seen of him he's a nice players.

Kennedy will get targeted by nearly everyone, he's got some very nice attributes.

We are on the salary cap button, if we win the flag that will be even worse with bonuses. I'd say we'll turn over 6-8 players which seems our norm.
 
Yes Kelly has developed into an elite player and also has elite off the field traits of professionalism.

There is some talk of Himmelberg perhaps wanting to join his brother at the Lions (I think). I'd imagine Adelaide would also be into him as they bid on him (again from memory). From what Ive seen of him he's a nice players.

Kennedy will get targeted by nearly everyone, he's got some very nice attributes.

We are on the salary cap button, if we win the flag that will be even worse with bonuses. I'd say we'll turn over 6-8 players which seems our norm.
Himmelberg jr is at the crows
 
It's like dominos, as each player re-signs the chances of the unsigned staying is reduced exponentially.

The Kelly signing is the trigger. If he stays we probably lose at least one of Smith, Hopper or Kennedy. If he goes we may keep 2 or even all 3.

I still think he will stay for the 2 years and some others are pushed out. We will lose Stevie J for next year and no doubt some blokes like Himmelberg who are not getting a run will look elsewhere.

If the others all start signing before Kelly then we can assume he is off to North.
How about you let Steve J retire & the Hawks swap you Breust for Whitfield then you guys play nice & take a good handful of draft picks for Hopper. I'm sure we could arrange a couple of second rounders to play with..:)
 
How about you let Steve J retire & the Hawks swap you Breust for Whitfield then you guys play nice & take a good handful of draft picks for Hopper. I'm sure we could arrange a couple of second rounders to play with..:)
Works for me, not sure about Hopper.
 

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How about you let Steve J retire & the Hawks swap you Breust for Whitfield then you guys play nice & take a good handful of draft picks for Hopper. I'm sure we could arrange a couple of second rounders to play with..:)

Mmm just how much of Breust's salary are you proposing Hawthorn pay ?
 
How about you let Steve J retire & the Hawks swap you Breust for Whitfield then you guys play nice & take a good handful of draft picks for Hopper. I'm sure we could arrange a couple of second rounders to play with..:)
No to Hopper but
Mmm just how much of Breust's salary are you proposing Hawthorn pay ?
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No to Hopper but

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Now now General... there is no need for such exact answers. Hopper is a slightly better inside player than Langford with less forward ability. We would be saving him from a whipping boy status in two years time when everyone accepts that he isn't an elite kick but a first Rd pick....
I would hate to see him carded like Jack Watts!
At least at the Hawks we will have Vickery to cast a big shadow & Hartung running away from that shadow to distract the members
 
Now now General... there is no need for such exact answers. Hopper is a slightly better inside player than Langford with less forward ability. We would be saving him from a whipping boy status in two years time when everyone accepts that he isn't an elite kick but a first Rd pick....
I would hate to see him carded like Jack Watts!
At least at the Hawks we will have Vickery to cast a big shadow & Hartung running away from that shadow to distract the members
I see you think there is some wiggle room in my answer regarding Hopper so i will change it.

Hell no!

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But we need the picks this year

come Onnn. You know it's s good deal :)

you guys will have a fat wallet next year! We can backload the final year of his contract if we sign up Dusty or Fyfe for 3 years;)

No. We won't have a fat wallet. We have good kids who deserve pay rises.

As a club, GWS is addicted to two things - cap room and future pics. And you dont have future pics to give up.
 
Most of the trade speculation that is going on is just that speculation although with the new CBA almost complete we will then see a clearer picture of potential player movements.
I see the picture for the Giants as:
Keep Kelly lose 2 of Smith/Hopper/Kennedy/HH and if Kelly leaves those 4 should hopefully extend contracts.
I saw this year as a defining year for Buntine and with the injury and Corr + Tomlinson performing well, if a club offers a good contract to him I can see the club letting him go for a packet of chips and some good will
 
Most of the trade speculation that is going on is just that speculation although with the new CBA almost complete we will then see a clearer picture of potential player movements.
I see the picture for the Giants as:
Keep Kelly lose 2 of Smith/Hopper/Kennedy/HH and if Kelly leaves those 4 should hopefully extend contracts.
I saw this year as a defining year for Buntine and with the injury and Corr + Tomlinson performing well, if a club offers a good contract to him I can see the club letting him go for a packet of chips and some good will
I feel the same about buntine. He is a class bloke with excellent intercept ability but i think he may want a fresh start. I'd prefer to lose him over HH
 
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