Remove this Banner Ad

Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion - Part 3

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Status
Not open for further replies.
I'm not sure why this is in the Carlton thread but Schache would be a good fit for Hawthorn.

Get a good kid in for the next decade - only problem is satisfying a trade with no early picks.
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

Hearing Kelly to North is pretty much done deal (going there for money and went for them as a kid).

I wouldn't be against trading pick 3 for Schache + Brisbane's second round pick (they will get a priority pick anyway). Schache only signed on for 2 years to keep media away apparently. Getting him allows us to play Curnow as a mid who rests fwd and Schache is right in the age bracket of the list that we need. I am not sold that he is a great player but imagine having a forward line with McKay at his peak, Schache at his peak and then Charlie resting forward it would do so much damage.
 
My point is that the option is:
2017 Gibbs for Crows 1st and 2nd -17 and 40 (in a so called weak draft)
v
2019 Gibbs for band 2 FA - pick 19

So effectively 2 years of Gibbs for pick 40 or so

I would take option 2 every day. Crows aren't going to offer anything better or put up a player of any value, and I don't blame them. Though in hindsight Kelly would have been a good pick up as the steak knives. Deal won't get done.
I'm not as keen on that as you are, but if Adelaide are going to pull the same crap as last year, expect their requests to look more like:

Gibbs & 2018 2nd rounder for 17 & 53.

I don't think Brisbane will be too sorry to see Schache go.

They have #1 this year, have Ballenden coming in cheap and will get something good for Schache.
All that and then they'll go to the AFL and have a better reason to ask for another Priority Pick. Maybe they've already done so.
They won't get a PP, but there's a possibility of band 1 for Rockliff.

Away from that, they have 1, 14, 18 & 41, and Schache might get them Richmond's first rounders.

was this a B52's pun?

Love shack .... bang bang on the door (baby) ?

if not, never mind
[In the CFC offices]

SOS: Love Schache, BB?
BB: Love Schache!
 
Hearing Kelly to North is pretty much done deal (going there for money and went for them as a kid).

I wouldn't be against trading pick 3 for Schache + Brisbane's second round pick (they will get a priority pick anyway). Schache only signed on for 2 years to keep media away apparently. Getting him allows us to play Curnow as a mid who rests fwd and Schache is right in the age bracket of the list that we need. I am not sold that he is a great player but imagine having a forward line with McKay at his peak, Schache at his peak and then Charlie resting forward it would do so much damage.

Are you hearing that from a north fan?
 
That would apply if he wasn't contracted............

What a player is worth uncontracted or contracted.

But you can't add what he is worth to us when that determining value, then you get scenarios of 2 first round picks and you won't get that for Gibbs.

Determine his true value, if another club meets or exceeds that value, do the deal or say he is not on the table, simple as that
 
So can Rockliff TBF.

I agree with this.

Rocky has a few good years left as a full time midfielder but beyond that I don't see why he couldn't be a very handy mid-sized forward.

He was a forward throughout his junior career - it was only really once he was drafted that he built the tank to move through the midfield.

It's not out of the question that any club who recruits him could play into his mid 30s - durability being the only real concern on that front. He's had plenty of injuries over the years.

He had his chance and he said no. Its a no from me.

Not that simple IMO.

I don't blame him for seeing out his contract and fighting for a spot.

More than happy to sound him out if he's now ready to move on.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

What a player is worth uncontracted or contracted.

But you can't add what he is worth to us when that determining value, then you get scenarios of 2 first round picks and you won't get that for Gibbs.

Determine his true value, if another club meets or exceeds that value, do the deal or say he is not on the table, simple as that
I get what you're saying, but it doesn't fit the bill when a player is under contract.

They need to pay a premium / overs / whatever you want to call it, or SOS won't trade him..........
 
I don't think Brisbane will be too sorry to see Schache go.

They have #1 this year, have Ballenden coming in cheap and will get something good for Schache.
All that and then they'll go to the AFL and have a better reason to ask for another Priority Pick. Maybe they've already done so.

Should they lose Schache I can absolutely see them running to the AFL asking for a PP.
 
I get what you're saying, but it doesn't fit the bill when a player is under contract.

They need to pay a premium / overs / whatever you want to call it, or SOS won't trade him..........

I agree with that, but not 2 x 1st round draft picks.

Rather than say pick 10 on its own, I would be happy with a latish 1st & 2nd, gives us the opportunity to draft 2 quality kids. Unless of course it is a pick and a player
 
Should they lose Schache I can absolutely see them running to the AFL asking for a PP.
It would be a stupid argument, however, because they are responsible for profiling the players they draft and making the environment conducive to the players wanting to stay at the club. They also have what they get in the trade coming back to them and with whatever compensation they get back, they will only set the same cycle in motion again. I'd doubt they'd use any compensation to get in more mature talent that won't bail on them at any opportunity and what non local talent would want to go there, anyway? Any compensation should be monetary or a slight beefing up of their academy zone.
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

It would be a stupid argument, however, because they are responsible for picking the players they do and making the environment conducive to the players wanting to stay at the club. They also have what they get in the trade coming back to them and with whatever compensation they get back, they will only set the same cycle in motion again. I'd doubt they'd use any compensation to get in more mature talent that won't bail on them at any opportunity and what non local talent would want to go their, anyway? Any compensation should be monetary or a slight beefing up of their academy zone.

I agree with you, just saying that I can see them doing it though.
 
I agree with that, but not 2 x 1st round draft picks.

Rather than say pick 10 on its own, I would be happy with a latish 1st & 2nd, gives us the opportunity to draft 2 quality kids. Unless of course it is a pick and a player
Fair enough, mate. Agree to disagree :thumbsu:

Personally, I'd demand Pick 10 and a 3rd rounder, or they can go jump.

Gibbs was so important to our young players' development this year; I'd prefer him to stay on.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Remove this Banner Ad

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top