Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion Part II

[ferrisb]

Elton has managed to stay on Richmond's list for 6 years and has played just the 10 senior games, including 6 this year.

I'd say his manager has done a great job convincing the Tigers to keep him on for as long as they have.

Even Luke O'Sullivan thinks Elton's been kept on the list too long....

 

[ParapMarkets]

Vickery and Mayne got band 3 last year and Cas could potentially get a better offer and may sneak into band 2, which would give us two 1st rounders, to send to GWS for Josh Kelly.
Probably slightly unrealistic, but we can dream.

No chance he would be band 2. With where we are likely to finish on the ladder, the difference between band 2 and 3 is probably a couple of picks, I think he should get band 3 if he is in fact being offered 4 years.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Not real happy with Levi wanting out after all we did selecting him very late and maturing him into the great mark he is today and these blokes are hard to find in the AFL these days.

It just seems we put all the hard work and background into big bodied players and then they want to leave us when they are close to their prime i.e Sam Jacobs also.

Watch Levi kill us every time we play the Tigers now and he also leaves a void in back up ruck duties and Matty K needs help. We are going to still have a lot of holes to fill with only so many picks in the draft this season which is reported to be very weak.

AFL will screw us on compo as well i reckon.

Meh, this is his last chance at a good contract before having to enter the real world. Good luck to him.

I'm sure SOS won't be shedding any tears if he can extract a second round pick for him.

 

[Gala_29]

I know this is asking for a lot, but can we say that Carlton should get a first round compo pick for Levi.
Melbourne got one for James Frawley when he went to the Hawks and he surely wasn't worth one.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Let's back-track to 2016: Ty Vickery - tier 2 key forward - netted a $500k x 2 year deal and earned Richmond Band 3 (2nd Round Pick) compensation.

Whilst the cap has gone up 20%, having the same money on the table; being a similar player; and having a deal twice as long (reported to be 4 years) for a total deal worth $2 million - I'd say the AFL will (and absolutely should) give us Band 3 compo i.e. in place of our traded 2nd round pick ~19/20.

Vickery's deal was heavily inflated because he was a RFA. Hawthorn wanted to get him without having to trade for him and effectively paid for the privilege. Levi is just a FA from my understanding. However, because of the new CBA and Levi having a good year I can see Livi getting a similar contract.

 

[Jeremias]

I know this is asking for a lot, but can we say that Carlton should get a first round compo pick for Levi.
Melbourne got one for James Frawley when he went to the Hawks and he surely wasn't worth one.

Unfortunately the two aren't really comparable.

Melbourne definitely got an excellent deal for Frawley, but he's a better footballer than Casboult ever has been.

We can say as we wish...but it's not going to happen. No way.

 

[inyourcool]

Jeremias whilst that might be true that Frawley is a better footballer that is not part of the compensation formula

Although the extra TPP will work against us if he leaves via FA

 

[Lace_Out]

Frawley was originally a 1st rd draft pick, unlike Cazz who was a rookie selection.

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[Mr_Plow]

4x500 surely gets us our 2nd round pick back.

Would be livid if we didn't get that.

 

[Jimmae]

Frawley was worth more than an end-of-first round pick, and sure enough they got band 1 compensation. That's the system.

 

[rog1995]

I know this is asking for a lot, but can we say that Carlton should get a first round compo pick for Levi.
Melbourne got one for James Frawley when he went to the Hawks and he surely wasn't worth one.

What did the tigers get for Vickery

 

[Heres Waite]

2 million dollars contract. Surely that gets us a band 3 compo.

 

[LanceRomance]

Frawley was worth more than an end-of-first round pick, and sure enough they got band 1 compensation. That's the system.

What did they get for him? Pick 3?

 

[HBF]

I know this is asking for a lot, but can we say that Carlton should get a first round compo pick for Levi.
Melbourne got one for James Frawley when he went to the Hawks and he surely wasn't worth one.

No chance of that happening.

 

[LanceRomance]

No chance of that happening.

He should net us more than Wells and mayne. He is younger

 

[bigdog43]

The AFL owes us one after giving us nothing for Waite (granted we sort of brought that upon ourselves)

 

[Azul]

I don't know about 'too easy' but it would certainly make too much sense for the AFL. Couldn't have clubs making informed decisions...

Trigger sounded surprised we got nothing for Jarrad.

 

[viking12]

What did they get for him? Pick 3?

yeah pick 3. compo pick was a first rd pick and was immediately after Melbourne's first which was pick 2

 

[Azul]

4x500 surely gets us our 2nd round pick back.

Would be livid if we didn't get that.

I'd settle for an end of 2nd round Levi compo when the AFL give us an end of first priority pick.

 

[The Edukator]

I know this is asking for a lot, but can we say that Carlton should get a first round compo pick for Levi.
Melbourne got one for James Frawley when he went to the Hawks and he surely wasn't worth one.

This is just embarrassing.

 

[HARKER]

This is just embarrassing.

Lots of things can be embarrassing when you look back on them.
Have you anything 'embarrassing' you want to put your hand up for?

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Re Levi
So has this been confirmed or just speculation?

 

[FairKouta]

Seriously though why hasn't CUNNERS been signed YET ?

 

[BringBackSimmo]

What did the tigers get for Vickery

Pick 26, somehow.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Seriously though why hasn't CUNNERS been signed YET ?

Yeah that's a strange one.

Maybe CG are demanding him in the rumoured Saad deal?