Analysis 2017 Non-Crows Discussion Thread - Part V for Vendetta

[Sanders]

Trengove and Thomas, in different ways. Both are there to be paradigm of hard work and team-first mentality for the young players. Being players, not full-time coaches, allow them to play such a role.

A paradigm of hard work?

 

[n4sir]

Different code, but PAP and their "supporters" are more likely to understand the Miami Dolphins, they have so much in common.

The Dolphins are a trainwreck in motion on a massive scale, it makes the shallow whimper of the PAPs look meaningless in commparison. If you want to see an example of a team with no direction, no leadership, no soul and no heart screw themselves over look no further. Coaches who have more interest snorting coke off of hookers bare asses, trading our best players away because they have the audacitity to tell them just how useless they are... this is the sort of team the Gold Coast could be if they put their collective minds to it!

 

[Pea Nut]

The Dolphins are a trainwreck in motion on a massive scale, it makes the shallow whimper of the PAPs look meaningless in commparison. If you want to see an example of a team with no direction, no leadership, no soul and no heart screw themselves over look no further. Coaches who have more interest snorting coke off of hookers bare asses, trading our best players away because they have the audacitity to tell them just how useless they are... this is the sort of team the Gold Coast could be if they put their collective minds to it!

I think the Suns were well on their way there but the AFL intervened because it was being done on their dime. There's still hope though. Dane Swan is looking for a job I heard.

 

[n4sir]

I think the Suns were well on their way there but the AFL intervened because it was being done on their dime. There's still hope though. Dane Swan is looking for a job I heard.

I have been a loyal, card carying Dolphins supporter since 1982, but the downward death spiral it in is nothing anyone should make light of. Yeah we made the finals as a wild card last year (and as an AFC east champion in 2008 also) courtesy of a soft draw, but make no mistake it's a blip on an ever-ending world of ****-up-land that started since the ownership first changed back in 1994. The team is screwed, I still support them but they are totally screwed.

 

[FR0GGY]

So where exactly do Port see this guy playing?

 

[FR0GGY]

Thomas doesn't have discipline issues, he was one of our hardest working players and always did everything that was asked of him. He has confidence issues and I don't think our club handled it the best with him. I think if our club had seen the writing on the wall and tweaked the way he played the game he would have avoided a lot of the issues which resulted in his loss of confidence.

I would have loved for LT to stay and play out his career with us, but with where our list is at and his age, it is probably the best thing for him to play for Port. If Hinkley approaches him the right way then I think it will be a good result for Port.

How many weeks suspension did he have this year?

 

[Crow54]

Looks like Roo, Tex and Sloane might be in for a windfall?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/busin...l/news-story/44b9a17d97d5a2e2fac08f925ba2093b

A sign that perhaps Rory is planning to move on? How many co-owners has that pub had in the past that have moved to greener (? ) pastures?

 

[GreyCrow]

Joel-ene. You know we're gonna use it

 

[Roovolution]

The Dolphins are a trainwreck in motion on a massive scale, it makes the shallow whimper of the PAPs look meaningless in commparison. If you want to see an example of a team with no direction, no leadership, no soul and no heart screw themselves over look no further. Coaches who have more interest snorting coke off of hookers bare asses, trading our best players away because they have the audacitity to tell them just how useless they are... this is the sort of team the Gold Coast could be if they put their collective minds to it!

It was a stripper but still I get your point..

 

[subaru]

This is simply wonderful. Who “walked” that we weren’t more than happy to move on? I’d love to know.

You had 13 on the list to go last year and none went !

Fact remains - 5 walked and you got caught short.

 

[subaru]

Conversations are not supposed to end at all! Conversation comes from "co-" (together) plus "versare" (to turn, to meditate). Conversation is an act of "thinking together," of "turning together to the same direction." Thus, conversations are not supposed to end because their goal is mutual understanding - which is impossible in full. Agreement and disagreement are only steps towards understanding. Conversations end when mutual understanding becomes impossible. I though that might be our case, that's why I made the comment the conversation was at risk.



A "trade of opinions" that is not a conversation is merely simultaneous monologues by "arrogant know-it-all crackpot with a penchant for trying to assert intellectual superiority." Hence, any "trade of opinions for its own sake" is NOT "perfectly acceptable." It is something we must avoid at all costs.



Different perspectives here. It is certainly an odd approach, but we are still talking about 3 players in a 44-man squad. That's 6.8%.



It is always, but we cannot pick what is usual for one part and throw it away in another. Usually, teams do not hire more than one DFA. True. However, usually, in their first season, draftees do not cause any positive impact in a team "First-XXII." Moreover, picks below #40 have not a huge chance of becoming great AFL players. All our picks this year were below #40. We just tried to use 6.81% of our squad and increase our odds of getting players that could have a positive impact right away - from minimal to right above minimal. Nothing more than that. It is not a big issue at all.



We did with Scott Thompson... ;-) Seriously, they will be player-coaches. Two for the price of one!



THEN, WHY ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT IT?! :-D



The point is that those replacing them would fall into exactly the same category. If both our option and its alternative would present the same issue, there can't be any controversy. Any choice would get us the same result. We are discussing a non-issue.




We are providing a different set of experiences. Besides, if they want to get into our team rotation, they will need to EARN it. If they can't work harder and be better than a cripple and an old guy, they doin´t deserve a chance in Power's XXII.



True. I have written correctly somewhere else here.



It is always a trade-off. As depth is concerned, we got rid of a known quantity and are betting into an unknown quantity. Since our First-XXII has improved (we concur), we thought the bet was worth it. We have rolled the dice, but that is what all clubs have done. There is no other way.



The key here is that we had not. We must deal with that we have. Out list management worked with what they had and what they could possibly do. One can only measure their work considering the actual circumstances. I can tottaly understand why people struggle with the choices, but, in our context, they make sense.



When we criticize, we use a standard for judgement. I just want to know yours, so we can improve our mutual understanding.




We just brought in FIVE of those. It is more than the TWO that your club have picked, for instance. Still, again, our highest pick was #46.



We are aware of that, but this summer has been somewhat different. And it is not that the club was a total bust past season. We have improved a team that finished the H&A in 5th place, really close to the team that eventually won the Flag. We cut ties with players that we couldn't develop any further. That is not s small change. We have the right to be hopeful.



Thanks. I hope you have enjoyed too.

Great
Another wall of texting stalker ..

 

[Tas]

How many weeks suspension did he have this year?

That isn't a discipline issue imo, if he was swinging Barry Hall haymakers then I think that would be the case but LT goes in hard and there is a fine line between a good hard bump and one that goes too high, he showed genuine remorse and concern for the player he hit at VFL level the moment he realised he ended up getting him high.

It is just the way he plays his footy, he will typically be sited by the AFL 2 or 3 times a year for "forceful contact" and he would typically get off most if not all the charges because what he does is within the rules, unfortunately, playing that way and being a fraction off with the timing makes something look bad. He had a bad year this year in relation to timing and execution. I wouldn't use that as a slur against his character though.

 

[Bicks]

Malifice Sorry Elite Crow

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Malifice Sorry Elite Crow

Do you think Reid told SOS who to pick so we can have them if they turn out any good.

 

[Deaneus!]

Half an hour til we find out who’s career is ruined at Carlton

****ing called it

 

[MRB37]

The Dolphins are a trainwreck in motion on a massive scale, it makes the shallow whimper of the PAPs look meaningless in commparison. If you want to see an example of a team with no direction, no leadership, no soul and no heart screw themselves over look no further. Coaches who have more interest snorting coke off of hookers bare asses, trading our best players away because they have the audacitity to tell them just how useless they are... this is the sort of team the Gold Coast could be if they put their collective minds to it!

Miami is a party town, so it’s not massively surprising those sorts of things happen.

 

[johnnypanther]

Just curious How many times does your club contact you directly thru Email, tex, Phone calls invites.
How many times a year does your CEO send out statements to you. PS, I know the Answer but just curious if you do.
Because the Crows manage to contact its members via email or Tex and even the return phones calls to queries more than any other AFL club in the competition.
I have even received several return calls from Fagan after I queried some issues. and 1 so far from Burton a very good conversation.
MY club talks to me how much does your club talk to you. And yet you say that my Club shows contempt to me and my fellow supporters without proof or basis to your argument.
For someone so hot on stats, I would have thought you would have checked.
MY CLUB TALKS TO ME DOES YOURS. and does not ask for money to do so. interesting

Furthermore “TALK” is the operative word, not “SPIN” which is port’s modus operandi

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Miami is a party town, so it’s not massively surprising those sorts of things happen.

& we have BrisVegas which has never had a successful side..

 

[Pea Nut]

& we have BrisVegas which has never had a successful side..

Brisbane has arguably had the greatest team of the modern era ??

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Brisbane has arguably had the greatest team of the modern era ??

Gold Coast = BrisVegas.

 

[Pea Nut]

Gold Coast = BrisVegas.

Lol no. BrisVegas = Brisbane.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Lol no. BrisVegas = Brisbane.

Lol, been wrong all these years, as thought it referred to tacky gold coast.

 

[Pea Nut]

Lol, been wrong all these years, as thought it referred to tacky gold coast.

Ha ok. I can sorta see how someone might make that correlation. But they are referring to Brisbane. Gold Coast certainly is tacky.

 

[Mego Red]

Lol no. BrisVegas = Brisbane.

True. Brisneyland would also be correct. ;-)

 

[MRB37]

VB got promoted into Pyke's old job at West Coast it looks like.