2017 trade/draft thread

[Jootube]

Would not hesitate to offer our 3rd (about pick 48 I think?), he has the talent and at around that level the picks are quite speculative anyway. If it doesn't work out and he doesn't play a game no big loss.

After a bit of research, you're probably right.
What if you had to choose between Ryan and Fasolo?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

After a bit of research, you're probably right.
What if you had to choose between Ryan and Fasolo?

No brainer, Fas every day of the week.

 

[new breed]

Lol, we're a bit more keen than that...

"Alex is a really good player. He obviously plays forward and that's an area we're looking to improve," Vozzo told 6PR.

"I think he's a contracted player, though, but if he was someone who became available we'd definitely need to consider it seriously."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/eagles-could-trade-for-contracted-pies-forward-fasolo

Still the media have focused on the story more then Vozzo ...media have put it straight to Vozzo what's he meant to say .

My interpretation of Vozzo's comments are re him being contracted rather then uncontracted where we would have a definite advantage to trade Alex Fasolo to West Coast .
Just my interpretation .

 

[6285sutto]

Just read this article (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/dockers-show-in-interest-in-sun-matera-) and am confused as to how freo have wrangled themselves as Matera's number one choice. Would think he would fit in pretty well at WCE so why are we not making a play for him ?

 

[Vargo hoat]

Gold coast and the Giants have 4 & 2 second round draft picks each respectively, with the potential for more to come if/when players such as Matera,Wilson, Smith & Kennedy get traded out.

Given the amount of 2nd round picks both of these clubs will have I can see them wanting to swap multiple picks to move into the 1st round.

The eagles currently have 3-5 senior list positions to fill, with another 3 players yet to be contracted for next year. Would WC bite on a 2 for 1 deal to gain an extra 2nd round pick to fill a senior position instead of Wellingham or Hill?

 

[Miasi]

Just read this article (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/dockers-show-in-interest-in-sun-matera-) and am confused as to how freo have wrangled themselves as Matera's number one choice. Would think he would fit in pretty well at WCE so why are we not making a play for him ?

Couldn’t agree more not only does a matera belong in West Coast colours but we are in desperate need of small crumbing forwards

 

[Godfather32]

Couldn’t agree more not only does a matera belong in West Coast colours but we are in desperate need of small crumbling forwards

But he's not that good...it's not like we're missing out on Phil or Peter, more like we're missing out on Wally

 

[amazingjoshy]

But he's not that good...it's not like we're missing out on Phil or Peter, more like we're missing out on Wally

His 2017 (before injured) was better than anything Fasolo's ever produced, and he'd probably come cheaper.

 

[Godfather32]

His 2017 (before injured) was better than anything Fasolo's ever produced, and he'd probably come cheaper.

Don't want either of them

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Still the media have focused on the story more then Vozzo ...media have put it straight to Vozzo what's he meant to say .

My interpretation of Vozzo's comments are re him being contracted rather then uncontracted where we would have a definite advantage to trade Alex Fasolo to West Coast .
Just my interpretation .

Ummm maybe say something like this (in reference to Martin)?

The Saints: "Dustin is not a part of any plans we have in place."
The Giants: "The GWS Giants will not proceed with further talks with Richmond's Dustin Martin … we wish Dustin Martin all the best for his career ahead."

and its hardly a "story". There's been one article about it and very little talk thereafter.

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Just read this article (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/dockers-show-in-interest-in-sun-matera-) and am confused as to how freo have wrangled themselves as Matera's number one choice. Would think he would fit in pretty well at WCE so why are we not making a play for him ?

Probably that off field stuff with K. Hunt and the golf day.

 

[eagles rule]

Just read this article (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/dockers-show-in-interest-in-sun-matera-) and am confused as to how freo have wrangled themselves as Matera's number one choice. Would think he would fit in pretty well at WCE so why are we not making a play for him ?

1st impressions count I guess Freo appeared way more keener than WCE when feelers from Matera`s camp where put out ..

 

[ziad]

1st impressions count I guess Freo appeared way more keener than WCE when feelers from Matera`s camp where put out ..

more desperate perhaps.

 

[Obeanie1]

He is a premium mid at Geelong so I get where you are coming from as it applies to a vast majority of players. Ultimately he gets a lot of the ball amd performs to a high standard more often than not so I can only judge him on that.
Someone like Menengola I think would not of made it at West Coast because he would not of got in our midfield which just goes to show you where we are at and how our club thinks. Good enough to play midfield with Danger, Selwood and Duncan but would not of got in with Shuey, Priddis etc.
You can be unlucky where you get drafted and end up playing with spuds. I think Jack Watts would of been a star if drafted by Sydney or Hawthorn, but unlucky Jack you got drafted by Melbourne.
Our club needs to take some risks and if you pay overs every now and again so be it as long as you are trying to improve. The draft is a lottery and the chances of you getting a very very good player from it are pretty low.

Its hard for the club to take risks when players arent interested in moving here.

Im leaning the other way. Trade in depth players like a Cripps and an Ah chee but get as many low picks and hit the draft. Once we get players we seem ok at retaining them.

Never trade a first rounder for B+ grade talent like Redden or Wellingham. 2nd round picks on sure but dont trade 1st round picks unless it is proven A grade talent.

I dont class Duncan as A grade.

 

[Obeanie1]

Just read this article (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/dockers-show-in-interest-in-sun-matera-) and am confused as to how freo have wrangled themselves as Matera's number one choice. Would think he would fit in pretty well at WCE so why are we not making a play for him ?

I think the club knows a lot about Matera and are keeping there distance. Supposidly a bit of a FIGJAM sort and we dont need that,

Rather draft that young fella who justed kicked 7 goals in the TAC Cup Gf.

 

[MVPD01]

We should be doing all we can to develop Yeo and Duggan into mids - they have the potential, but our development in this area seems to ... really stink. Happy to give up our 2nd for Wilson, the man has skills.

I reckon we should keep Yeo at HB, to me he plays better with the play in front of him, he reads it very well and uses his pace to set things up. Short bursts in the midfield for a spark is ok but not full time. He’s a long kick but I can’t really recall too many times when he’s delivering into 50 lace out like a Shuey or Mitchell. Plus being all Australian at HB why would we move him just because we think he should be a mid.
Duggan will eventually get into the midfield rotation no doubt.
If we can secure a good midfielder come trade time and have Venables, Partington take some steps next year we’ll be better. We also need to draft mids and fast track their development and not let them rot away in the WAFL for 3 years.


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[avishka5]

whats the biggest issues with Jake Patmore? over the year i have seen some fan fair and some not so keen on him.

 

[Underdog]

Not really interested in Matera. Would be happy with Fasolo. He's no superstar but he's averaged 1.7 goals a game over the past three years. That's a pretty handy contribution. At 25, he seems a pretty like-for-like replacement for LeCras moving forward.

 

[Underdog]

Wilson would be a great pickup. It's a shame he looks Freo bound. We have a ton of half back flankers, but they're not necessarily that good, nor have pace and clean disposal. He'd be like adding another Yeo to our back 6 (poorer above his head but better disposal). It'd be lethal when they're both there and would allow us to utilise Yeo in the midfield or up forward without such a sacrifice.

 

[Jootube]

Seems insane that the Miers bloke can kick 50 goals in 17 games, and be considered a firm 2nd rounder.
The blokes drafted ahead of him must be unreal players...

Edit: The 1st round midfielders are all kicking 2+ goals a game. Some with bags of 6 and 7.
7 goals in TAC =/= what we think 7 goals means

 

[Obeanie1]

Seems insane that the Miers bloke can kick 50 goals in 17 games, and be considered a firm 2nd rounder.
The blokes drafted ahead of him must be unreal players...

Miers looks like a small forward and not anything else. Not as flexible, not a gun mid or tall. So he slides into the late 2nd round. Most dont have him in the top 30.

 

[Figure09]

Miers looks like a small forward and not anything else. Not as flexible, not a gun mid or tall. So he slides into the late 2nd round. Most dont have him in the top 30.

such a shame why do freo have more guts in recruiting players. What is wrong with our recruiting team?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Its hard for the club to take risks when players arent interested in moving here.

Im leaning the other way. Trade in depth players like a Cripps and an Ah chee but get as many low picks and hit the draft. Once we get players we seem ok at retaining them.

Never trade a first rounder for B+ grade talent like Redden or Wellingham. 2nd round picks on sure but dont trade 1st round picks unless it is proven A grade talent.

I dont class Duncan as A grade.

Just out of curiosity and I have not done the research but how many 1st round draft picks has our club got that have ended up A grade talent? Judd for sure that I know of.

Maybe a Duncan is not the Dangerfield, Martin or Sloan that we want but he sure has hell is a better option than some kid with potential as let's face it it's a 1 in 50 shot to get a Duncan and a 1 in a 100 shot to get a superstar.
AFL clubs love working with those numbers for some reason but it's just a dart board throw to me.

 

[Jako Darling]

Freo have a better 2nd round pick and I suspect that pick will get it done, so it's a bit academic anyway imo. Don't think we're seriously in the hunt for Wilson, obviously would be remiss of us if we didn't enquire but we don't have the leverage compared to Freo.

Freo don't own their 2nd rounder..

 

[amazingjoshy]

Not really interested in Matera. Would be happy with Fasolo. He's no superstar but he's averaged 1.7 goals a game over the past three years. That's a pretty handy contribution. At 25, he seems a pretty like-for-like replacement for LeCras moving forward.

Matera's averaged the same over the last two years, and their career stats are almost identical. Both the same age too. Matera plays as more of a crumber which imo is what we are severely lacking. Plus I reckon he'd be cheaper to get which is why I think he'd be a better target personally.