2018 Best 22

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FB: Kersten Hamling Logue
HB: Wilson Pearce Ryan
C: B Hill Mundy Langdon
HF: McCarthy Cox Fyfe
FF: Matera Taberner Walters

R: Darcy Cerra S Hill

I: Neale Tucker Brayshaw Blakely

E: Giro Apeness Duman Banfield

Backline:
- Possibly too tall but I am confident that those guys are all athletic enough to handle small/fast players.
- All have average or better footskill. I know Pearce has been putrid by foot lately but I love his attacking mindset and hope he is encouraged to keep attempting those passes.
- Cerra and Blakely can give any of those guys a break if required.

Midfield:
- Big focus on skills in the centre without compromising inside ability too much.
- Neale, Blakely, Brayshaw, Fyfe, Tucker and Walters all to go through the centre at times, some more than others ofcourse.
- The two freak runners on the outside hopefully blowing up their opponents and providing an option all over the ground.
- Tucker, S Hill, Walters and Brayshaw providing breaks for B Hill and Langdon.

Forwardline:
- Obviously trying to look for something a bit different with Fyfe on a flank with the intention of creating difficult match ups for opponents.
- 3 very good contested marking players and 2 very good crumbing players plus a general forward in McCarthy who would draw at worst the 3rd best defender imo.
- On McCarthy, he would want to show some form as Dixon, Giro, Banfield, Crowden, Switkowski, Apeness, next year's first rounder and even Sheridan could potentially replace him. Not to mention what might happen if Bennell gets fit.
- 2nd ruck is Cox.
- Neale, Tucker, B Hill and Langdon to all have a run through the forward line at stages/to rest.

 

[heavho]

Wilson Hamling Ryan

Cerra A Pearce Blakely

S hill. Brayshaw. B hill

Langdon. Cox. Banfield

Matera. Tabener Walters


Sandilands
Fyfe
Neale


Mundy
Apeness
Bennell
Tucker

 

[heavho]

Darcy in once Sandi is out and Darcy is fit

 

[Deathly]

Not 2018 but,

Been thinking about Nyhuis and our future B22 for awhile now, across the past 12 months, I've noticed Nyhuis has been slowly building his football across all aspects of his playing and has shown noticeable improvement. I feel like he will be a definite B22 lock soon. We really need his shutdown role in the side and he does it the best.

My Round 1, 2019 Defense would be:

Nyhuis - Hamling - Wilson
Ryan - Pearce - Logue

Rotate Through: S.Hill / Brayshaw / Cerra

I like but still have question marks on Duman & Hughes. I don't think Tucker & Blakely should go down there ever again.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Here is the best 20 players, with two spots outstanding as we need two more forward pockets. Next year with another 6 to 8 players gone from our list and another 6 to 8 added I think we should see a large amount of improvement. We really need to add someone to our forward line who is very quick, as we have no one at the moment.


B: Ryan Hamling Nyhuis\Duman
HB: Wilson Pearce Langdon
M: S. Hill Fyfe B. Hill
HF: Walters Taberner Dixon
F: Cox
R: Darcy Blakely Neale
B: Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Logue

 

[heavho]

Here is the best 20 players, with two spots outstanding as we need two more forward pockets. Next year with another 6 to 8 players gone from our list and another 6 to 8 added I think we should see a large amount of improvement. We really need to add someone to our forward line who is very quick, as we have no one at the moment.


B: Ryan Hamling Nyhuis\Duman
HB: Wilson Pearce Langdon
M: S. Hill Fyfe B. Hill
HF: Walters Taberner Dixon
F: Cox
R: Darcy Blakely Neale
B: Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Logue

Add another hill but in the forward line

 

[go_the_dockers]

Add another hill but in the forward line

and Rozee and I will be very happy

 

[ImperialPurple]

Based on everything we've seen this year - and this is my opinion only - This is what I think our 2018 B22 looks like, with no injuries / suspensions / everyone available. I think it actually looks like a half-decent team. We've got some speed on the outside, some grunt in the middle, a solid back 6, a no-name but functional forward 6, a good mix of ages (yoof, middle and old farts), good leadership, blokes who were around when we had our golden run, and a couple we have brought in who know how to win premierships. There's also some competition for a few spots - not a lot, our depth is pretty shyte once injuries start to kick in - and overall I think this team would trouble a lot of the top teams. We might even be a sneaky chance against Hawforn or to win a derby.

B: Nyhuis Hamling Wilson
HB: Ryan Pearce Blakely
C: Langdon Fyfe SHill
HF: BHill Taberner McCarthy
FF: Bennell Cox Walters
R: Sandi Mundy Neale
I: Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Tucker

Unlucky: Darcy, Matera (only as a small forward), Grey, Switta (think he has value), Apeness, Logue

• Sandi still our #1 ruck, so Darcy misses out while Tabs can do short spells in the ruck. But who knows how long Sandi's body will hold up, so Darcy may learn best from being thrown in at the deep end. Fingers crossed for a full pre-season. He can certainly come in and do a job now.
  
• The midfield rotation should be Sandi - Fyfe - Mundy - Neale as first choice; with Blakely, SHill, Cerra and Brayshaw all getting a run through there.
• Given Harley is unlikely to ever be fit - Matera comes in as a SMALL FORWARD only. Let the guy do what he does best, keep him anchored to Cox's feet. Walters can go for a run up the ground if they want that roaming small forward.
• Langdon is developing into a better wingman than BHill IMO, but SHill still trumps them both, esp with his delivery I50. Chuck BHill on a HFF, and he and Ed can mix it up a bit.
  
• Switkowski, and then Grey, are just behind Matera for the small forward spot. But not by much. Both are much better defensively, but Matera has better goal smarts than Grey (which is frustrating that he is never played closer to goal), and jury is out on Switta. Gut feeling he'll be good for us.
  
• Sheridan is still decent back up for a couple of weeks at a time, before his form inexplicably deserts him. MJ can do a job. Duman has potential, and can fill a role if required. Sutcliffe is done.
• Apeness is behind Tabs, Cox, McCarthy - but has natural talent, and with a proper pre-season could challenge these three.
  
• Logue - can't make a call on him as I believe he's still very raw and has only played patches of one season. He could be boom, or he could be bust. If he's boom, I'd slot him in on the bench, and send Tucker to the "Unlucky" list.
  
• Untried blokes and 'ins and outs' like Giro (think he'll go okay), and Crowden (not so sure), I'd like to see more of them, so haven't commented. Their roles are less defined that say Nyhuis and Duman who have also played only a handful of games, but whose roles are much clearer.

 

[theGav56]

Based on everything we've seen this year - and this is my opinion only - This is what I think our 2018 B22 looks like, with no injuries / suspensions / everyone available. I think it actually looks like a half-decent team. We've got some speed on the outside, some grunt in the middle, a solid back 6, a no-name but functional forward 6, a good mix of ages (yoof, middle and old farts), good leadership, blokes who were around when we had our golden run, and a couple we have brought in who know how to win premierships. There's also some competition for a few spots - not a lot, our depth is pretty shyte once injuries start to kick in - and overall I think this team would trouble a lot of the top teams. We might even be a sneaky chance against Hawforn or to win a derby.

B: Nyhuis Hamling Wilson
HB: Ryan Pearce Blakely
C: Langdon Fyfe SHill
HF: BHill Taberner McCarthy
FF: Bennell Cox Walters
R: Sandi Mundy Neale
I: Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Tucker

Unlucky: Darcy, Matera (only as a small forward), Grey, Switta (think he has value), Apeness, Logue

• Sandi still our #1 ruck, so Darcy misses out while Tabs can do short spells in the ruck. But who knows how long Sandi's body will hold up, so Darcy may learn best from being thrown in at the deep end. Fingers crossed for a full pre-season. He can certainly come in and do a job now.
  
• The midfield rotation should be Sandi - Fyfe - Mundy - Neale as first choice; with Blakely, SHill, Cerra and Brayshaw all getting a run through there.
• Given Harley is unlikely to ever be fit - Matera comes in as a SMALL FORWARD only. Let the guy do what he does best, keep him anchored to Cox's feet. Walters can go for a run up the ground if they want that roaming small forward.
• Langdon is developing into a better wingman than BHill IMO, but SHill still trumps them both, esp with his delivery I50. Chuck BHill on a HFF, and he and Ed can mix it up a bit.
  
• Switkowski, and then Grey, are just behind Matera for the small forward spot. But not by much. Both are much better defensively, but Matera has better goal smarts than Grey (which is frustrating that he is never played closer to goal), and jury is out on Switta. Gut feeling he'll be good for us.
  
• Sheridan is still decent back up for a couple of weeks at a time, before his form inexplicably deserts him. MJ can do a job. Duman has potential, and can fill a role if required. Sutcliffe is done.
• Apeness is behind Tabs, Cox, McCarthy - but has natural talent, and with a proper pre-season could challenge these three.
  
• Logue - can't make a call on him as I believe he's still very raw and has only played patches of one season. He could be boom, or he could be bust. If he's boom, I'd slot him in on the bench, and send Tucker to the "Unlucky" list.
  
• Untried blokes and 'ins and outs' like Giro (think he'll go okay), and Crowden (not so sure), I'd like to see more of them, so haven't commented. Their roles are less defined that say Nyhuis and Duman who have also played only a handful of games, but whose roles are much clearer.

Good to have another look at the best 22 discussion as it feeds into the draft/trading arena.

I would like to see Duman trialed in the kind of role Tucker has been playing (which is a bit undefined, but generally hbf/wing I think?). I think his height will be an advantage and his delivery an asset. I also want Tucker to have to compete really hard for his spot. I'd consider Logue as well in the quest to find his niche. I also think Kersten had a decent game as a defender against Carlton and would be as happy to see him as the depth in our backline if there is another role for either Duman or Logue. Am I being too creative?

Are you really thinking MJ is still on the list?

In terms of drafting, Rozee appeals as a real fit for that best 22.

Your best 22 with the depth players in BOLD

B: Nyhuis Hamling Wilson Logue, Kersten
HB: Ryan Pearce Blakely Hughes, Duman
C: Langdon Fyfe SHill Sheridan, Giro
HF: BHill Taberner McCarthy Apeness, Strnadica, Grey
FF: Bennell Cox Walters Dixon, Matera, Switkowski, Ballantyne
R: Sandi Mundy Neale Darcy, Meek, Jones, Crowden, North
I: Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Tucker

 

[ImperialPurple]

Good to have another look at the best 22 discussion as it feeds into the draft/trading arena.

I would like to see Duman trialed in the kind of role Tucker has been playing (which is a bit undefined, but generally hbf/wing I think?). I think his height will be an advantage and his delivery an asset. I also want Tucker to have to compete really hard for his spot. I'd consider Logue as well in the quest to find his niche. I also think Kersten had a decent game as a defender against Carlton and would be as happy to see him as the depth in our backline if there is another role for either Duman or Logue. Am I being too creative?

Are you really thinking MJ is still on the list?

In terms of drafting, Rozee appeals as a real fit for that best 22.

Not at all re MJ, just thinking that he has played the past few games, and right now Ross still sees that he has some value to play a role when required. He did have one brief dash, holding the ball in that unique way he does, then kicked it on the run, with his unusual ball drop. For a moment I thought it was the Johnno of old. Pretty sure it went to the opposition, however.

Yeah, forgot Kersten. Another one that provides good depth in the backline, and at a REAL pinch, can go forward if he's playing the third tall. Don't think he's B22 if everyone else if fit. Think his head will be on the chopping block at the end of his contract next year.

Tucker is so 'meh' to me. I don't know that he's offering any more in this his third year, than he did in his first year. He seems to be entrenched in the 22, but I'm not sure why he isn't more of a fringe player. He'll get his 12-16 possessions, decent efficiency, but he really needs to get more of it to be the weapon he was supposed to be with his 'lethal boot'.

For both Duman and Logue I think we need a larger sample size of games to work out where they best fit. Considering Logue was a top 10 pick, I would really, really hope he comes good and we get value from him as a 200 game player for us.

 

[dockerfemme]

Good to have another look at the best 22 discussion as it feeds into the draft/trading arena.

I would like to see Duman trialed in the kind of role Tucker has been playing (which is a bit undefined, but generally hbf/wing I think?). I think his height will be an advantage and his delivery an asset. I also want Tucker to have to compete really hard for his spot. I'd consider Logue as well in the quest to find his niche. I also think Kersten had a decent game as a defender against Carlton and would be as happy to see him as the depth in our backline if there is another role for either Duman or Logue. Am I being too creative?

Are you really thinking MJ is still on the list?

In terms of drafting, Rozee appeals as a real fit for that best 22.

Your best 22 with the depth players in BOLD

B: Nyhuis Hamling Wilson Logue, Kersten
HB: Ryan Pearce Blakely Hughes, Duman
C: Langdon Fyfe SHill Sheridan, Giro
HF: BHill Taberner McCarthy Apeness, Strnadica, Grey
FF: Bennell Cox Walters Dixon, Matera, Switkowski, Ballantyne
R: Sandi Mundy Neale Darcy, Meek, Jones, Crowden, North
I: Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Tucker

I really can’t come to grips with Connor in the backline. He played some good football there because he is a good footballer.

He is a contested ball beast with a great ability to read the play in congestion. In the backline he has a high percentage of uncontested possession and we know his kicking is dicey. It just doesn’t work for me.

How do you guys see it?

 

[ImperialPurple]

I agree - but who does he put out of the middle who can also play across half-back? Fyfe, Mundy or Neale? Actually - Mundy. He can do anything, and another precision kicker out of the backline would be brilliant Also, if we're talking 2019 - getting him out of the crash and bash of the centre square and controlling structure and ball movement from the back half would be a luxury IMO.

 

[DMan 11]

I agree - but who does he put out of the middle who can also play across half-back? Fyfe, Mundy or Neale? Actually - Mundy. He can do anything, and another precision kicker out of the backline would be brilliant Also, if we're talking 2019 - getting him out of the crash and bash of the centre square and controlling structure and ball movement from the back half would be a luxury IMO.

Mundy down back sounds good in theory but don’t think it pans out that way. He gets exposed for speed or creative HFF’s outwork him on the lead.
He’s less exposed for speed on the inside and he’s just so clever off a step that his value is maximised in close.
Jeez I hope he stumbles into the fountain of youth this off season - he’s been immense all year

 

[DMan 11]

I really can’t come to grips with Connor in the backline. He played some good football there because he is a good footballer.

He is a contested ball beast with a great ability to read the play in congestion. In the backline he has a high percentage of uncontested possession and we know his kicking is dicey. It just doesn’t work for me.

How do you guys see it?

Agree 100%.
Its likely he’ll be the plus one down back. So while he starts down there and spends time there, he’s essentially a midfielder without a licence to push too far forward.
I’m happy with that.

 

[Schauermann]

Based on everything we've seen this year

Bennell

This year I have seen a player who breaks down at latest after a few WAFL matches.

Needs to play a AFL games before I would talk best 22.

 

[FreoRicci]

Really feel like we need two ruckmen, these days their valuable and forces opposition to worry about Sandi resting forward. Apeness is probably a big, more versatile Ruck/Forward hybrid. Darcy is a pure ruckman, he struggles up forward. Having both ruckmen allows a different dimension to our forwards, especially Tabs and Cox.

FB: Nyhuis, Hamling, Wilson
FF: Ryan, Pearce, Duman
C: Langdon, S. Hill, B. Hill
HF: Cerra, Tabs, Apeness
FF: Gray/Giro, Cox, Mccarthy

R: Sandi, Fyfe, Neale

Interchange: Brayshaw, Matera, Blakely, Mundy

Bennell in for Gray if you're talking without injuries. But Gray adds a tough dimension for the team. He gets it done.

Swap between Duman and Kersten. But feel we're too tall already with Pearce, Hamling and Ryan.

Giro is so handy to have, but probably pipped out by Gray due to experience and size.

Blakely is an unique situation. Where do you play him, as he's too good for backline but the midfield is already stacked.

S. Hill plays better football in the guts. Hard at it but always his pace is invaluable. Half back isn't his position.

 

[free at last]

Best 22 in 2019

Backs: Logue Hamling Nyhus

Half backs : Wilson Pearce Ryan

Centre: BHill Blakely SHill

Half Forwards: Langdon Cox McCarthy

Forwards : Walters Tabs Brayshaw

Rucks: Darcy Fyfe Neale

Res: Cerra Giro Banfield Mundy

 

[dockerfemme]

Best 22 in 2019

Backs: Logue Hamling Nyhus

Half backs : Wilson Pearce Ryan

Centre: BHill Blakely SHill

Half Forwards: Langdon Cox McCarthy

Forwards : Walters Tabs Brayshaw

Rucks: Darcy Fyfe Neale

Res: Cerra Giro Banfield Mundy

I like that on the whole. The only thing I question is Brayshaw in the forward pocket. I would rather see Us give Matera the opportunity to be a dangerous small forward or give Swita more opportunity, and use Andy in the midfield rotation, as is his natural position. I guess Giro would miss out.

 

[Unique Name]

Best 22 for 2019

Nyhuis - Hamling - Ryan
Wilson - APearce - S Hill
Langdon - Neale - B Hill
Walters - Cox - xxxxx
xxxxx - Tabs - McCarthy

Darcy - Fyfe - Blakely

Cerra - Brayshaw - Bennell - Mundy


- Two spots up for grabs (small forward and med/forward) - Maybe Matera/Grey/Switta/Ballas. We don't really have a talented medium forward (thinking someone like Florent/Hayward). Need them to have good speed/pressure and know how to kick a goal.

- Hopefully we're not relying on Mundy to carry us as much as he has this year. Rotate in the forward line, and some short stints in the midfield. Really need to start transitioning away from him, let Blakely, Brayshaw and Cerra take over the mantle. Maybe save most of his midfield minutes and have him as a 3rd qtr specialist.

- Wouldn't be averse to trying Apeness as the ruck forward. Tabs as the No1 FF and Cox/McCarthy to battle it out for the 3rd tall spot.

- 9 players for midfield rotations -Fyfe, Neale, Blakely, Brayshaw, Cerra, Bennell, S Hill, Walters, Mundy.

- Starting to build depth that isn't just made up of 1st year players yet to play a game: Tucker*, Sherro, Grey, Banfield, Kersten, Logue, Apeness.

* - I still have hope that Tucker can lift his game to the next level. Everything about him is good, just needs to up his production.

- If something close to this Best22 plays the majority of next year we'll be looking at a team that sits mid-table for experience and age. i.e zero excuses for not making finals.

 

[Unique Name]

For me Logue is going to have to put some serious time into the Peel side - He needs to be dominating defensively/aerially and offering some serious run out of the backline before he gets a shot into the B22.

 

[Freeeoo]

Not 2018 but,

Been thinking about Nyhuis and our future B22 for awhile now, across the past 12 months, I've noticed Nyhuis has been slowly building his football across all aspects of his playing and has shown noticeable improvement. I feel like he will be a definite B22 lock soon. We really need his shutdown role in the side and he does it the best.

My Round 1, 2019 Defense would be:

Nyhuis - Hamling - Wilson
Ryan - Pearce - Logue

Rotate Through: S.Hill / Brayshaw / Cerra

I like but still have question marks on Duman & Hughes. I don't think Tucker & Blakely should go down there ever again.

Agree with you re Nyhuis, I've been impressed with how well he's developed this year.

 

[Lach72]

I really can’t come to grips with Connor in the backline. He played some good football there because he is a good footballer.

He is a contested ball beast with a great ability to read the play in congestion. In the backline he has a high percentage of uncontested possession and we know his kicking is dicey. It just doesn’t work for me.

How do you guys see it?

Agree. For mine Blakely offers something the others don't in the midfield. Two step quick acceleration and exit from the pack and creative handball that moves us forward in an attacking positive way.
For mine he's the first choice center man.

My backline is this:
Nyhuis Hamling Ryan
Wilson Pearce and Logue

Brad Hill Blakely Langdon
Stephen Hill Taberner Bennell
McCarthy Cox Walters

Darcy Fyfe Neale

Mundy Cerra Brayshaw Switkowski/Matera
If Bennell can't get fit, either Switta or Matera comes into the pocket and Walters on to a flank


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[ImperialPurple]

This year I have seen a player who breaks down at latest after a few WAFL matches.

Needs to play a AFL games before I would talk best 22.

Fair call. But I believe (remember I said it was just my opinion), that fit and firing, Harley would be B22. He strung a good 8 WAFL games together and was dominating by the end. Yes his calves are made of glass, which pretty much precludes him from talk of B22, but if he were fit and uninjured, I don't reckon anyone would say he wasn't there.

 

[heavho]

If we have a defense In 2019 of

Nyhuis. Pearce. Ryan

Wilson. Hamling. Logue (for example)

It does look pretty good but does it have enough speed in it?

Personally out of all these guys I believe Wilson is the only one with a bit of speed.

There is no doubt this defense can hold down some teams forwards but if we are against a forwardline with some pace. We are all but going to be blown apart

 

[Unique Name]

If we have a defense In 2019 of

Nyhuis. Pearce. Ryan

Wilson. Hamling. Logue (for example)

It does look pretty good but does it have enough speed in it?

Personally out of all these guys I believe Wilson is the only one with a bit of speed.

There is no doubt this defense can hold down some teams forwards but if we are against a forwardline with some pace. We are all but going to be blown apart

I would hazard a guess that both Hamling and APearce are as fast as Wilson, both incredibly fast for their size. Nyhuis also has terrific closing down speed, that's why he's so good on small forwards, he outsizes them physically and is still fast enough to keep close body contact on them.

Not really sure on Logue's speed so I can't comment.

However I am perhaps more inclined to have an extra running player in the backline for more drive when we do get the ball.

Nyhuis - Hamling - Ryan
Wilson - APearce - S Hill