List Mgmt. 2018 List Management: Contracts, Trading, Drafting, Academy

[Colonial]

Anyone access the John Ralph article on josh kelly?

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[Giant Strides]

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Herald-Sun, behind a paywall. 'Why Josh Kelly on why he turned down North's huge offer, free agency, GWS.' I can't see it either.

 

[Colonial]

Herald-Sun, behind a paywall. 'Why Josh Kelly on why he turned down North's huge offer, free agency, GWS.' I can't see it either.

I went looking and found this.

What a flog of a human being..

Supposedly he thinks there was something untoward as well with him staying. [emoji849]

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[Giant Strides]

It's actually not too bad if you read it all.

 

[Snookers]

That's the second decent article Ralph was written about our players in the space of a week.

 

[Determinant]

That's the second decent article Ralph was written about our players in the space of a week.

Probably ghost written

 

[Snookers]

Probably ghost written

Or maybe because his team finally won another flag - and beat us in a prelim to do so - he no longer hates us?

 

[Giant Pete]

That's the second decent article Ralph was written about our players in the space of a week.

He’s recently spent a few days up with the club.

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

 

[Snookers]

Ralphy is getting a lot of grief for his opening paragraph. I'm sorry, but at a minimum, 1 in 4 afl players do drugs. The grandstanding by the players on Twitter is hypocritical IMO.

 

[Giant Pete]

David King absolutely written us off for 2018.

 

[dlanod]

David King absolutely written us off for 2018.

If you mean http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...r/news-story/b146676c4a9c64eb50c1a1ec1a62aadc, I went in prepared to be insulted but to be honest it lines up with what we've said here plenty of times:

In 2017 the Giants were too tall. Leon Cameron’s penchant for three talls in his forward 50 was an error as opposition teams walked the ball out of their forward line.

Yep.

They’re the best in the AFL at winning possession (dispute), and moving the football (when we have it) but horrendous at denying opposition movement and pressure (when they have it).

Yep.

GWS was decimated by injury last season, and clearly had the largest toll and games missed by their best 22 players in the competition.

Yep.

Considerable list alterations from last season will challenge that depth again in 2018.

Yep.

But are they purging too many? It may not entirely be their fault, but Devon Smith, Matthew Kennedy and Nathan Wilson all left.

Misleading but irrelevant anyway.

Not a lot would have to go wrong for the Giants to miss the top four this season, given the potential improvement of other teams around the mark.

It may sound crazy, but if percentage is the game’s best indicator, the Giants finished with 114.8 per cent last season, ranked sixth, in a year all thought was theirs for the taking.

The Giants are exceptional individuals but not yet an exceptional team.

I predict they have 12-14 wins, as per last season, but I can’t put them in my top four.

So he's taken what we've all seen and predicts it's more of the same but other teams will improve to leap frog us. That's not really a reflection on us as IMO either of the past two years we've been good enough to win if the ball had bounced our way (or certain players hadn't been bounced into the ground at inopportune times).

OTOH our deficiencies are, in theory, easy enough to see so hopefully there is movement there. I can't blame him for reaching his conclusion, despite my disagreement.

 

[Giant Pete]

If you mean http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...r/news-story/b146676c4a9c64eb50c1a1ec1a62aadc, I went in prepared to be insulted but to be honest it lines up with what we've said here plenty of times:



Yep.



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Yep.



Misleading but irrelevant anyway.



So he's taken what we've all seen and predicts it's more of the same but other teams will improve to leap frog us. That's not really a reflection on us as IMO either of the past two years we've been good enough to win if the ball had bounced our way (or certain players hadn't been bounced into the ground at inopportune times).

OTOH our deficiencies are, in theory, easy enough to see so hopefully there is movement there. I can't blame him for reaching his conclusion, despite my disagreement.

I meant after listening to his segment on sen today... reckons we will be lucky to make the 8. Reckons we are just talent... no system.

 

[dlanod]

I meant after listening to his segment on sen today... reckons we will be lucky to make the 8. Reckons we are just talent... no system.

That's funny. Two days who we're at 12-14 wins and missing top four. Now we're lucky to make the eight. Wonder what happened in the last couple of days.

 

[Ellie Aquitaine]

King also thinks Joe Daniher will be the best forward in the country.

Big call.

 

[Snookers]

This thread gone off the rails some what?

 

[coniglio_number1]

Well after that performance I want TOJ to sign on for a further 2!

 

[Snookers]

Well after that performance I want TOJ to sign on for a further 2!

Decades?

 

[coniglio_number1]

Decades?

 

[Andre the Giant]

Bit annoying seeing young Marshall flourish into a top player when he was omitted from our Academy for a “registration error”.

Still one of the great AFL stitch ups.

 

[coniglio_number1]

Bit annoying seeing young Marshall flourish into a top player when he was omitted from our Academy for a “registration error”.

Still one of the great AFL stitch ups.

Wonder how spargo and brander go. I was livid we passed on spargo when we had the opportunity and the need for his type

 

[Giant Pete]

Wonder how spargo and brander go. I was livid we passed on spargo when we had the opportunity and the need for his type

Is spargo quick?

 

[coniglio_number1]

Is spargo quick?

He isn’t lightning but isn’t a slug either.

He has the scope to become another Greene

 

[Bogan Juniors]

TOJ is out of contract this year. Did his value the world of good on Saturday.
I feel the vultures circling already

 

[coniglio_number1]

TOJ is out of contract this year. Did his value the world of good on Saturday.
I feel the vultures circling already

Suddenly became a priority 1 signing. Followed by extensions for next years OOC players