2018 Rolling All Australian Team

[Bollox]

We have nobody right now.
Great sign for us

Heeney's been v good though, AND
AND
AND
i have an apology to make to Jarrad McVeigh , on behalf of everyone here including myself.
Bloke has been brilliant.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

For a poster who hates it when people go for the ad hominem, you went for one pretty quick.

Indeed. My apologies.

 

[robertg22]

They usually only select 1 ruckman, because the comp rarely has 2 that are best 22 players in the comp, and they are not going to force out 2 players just to name 2 rucks.

a) Gawn and Grundy are easily in the best 22 players this year,
b) You're not leaving out 2 players to name 2 rucks. This implies a normal team has no rucks to start with.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Man even blocking Sweet Jesus isnt enough. He somehow manages to be the most annoying person on here even when I can't read his obnoxious dribble. He has a true gift

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Man even blocking Sweet Jesus isnt enough. He somehow manages to be the most annoying person on here even when I can't read his obnoxious dribble. He has a true gift

Your struggle is truly inspiring.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

B: Tom Jonas (PORT) - Daniel Talia (ADE) - Tom Stewart (GEE)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WCE) - Robbie Tarrant (NME) - Rory Laird (ADE)
C: Bryce Gibbs (ADE) - Tom Mitchell (HAW) - Jack Macrae (WB)
HF: Dustin Martin (RICH) - Jack Darling (WCE) - Robbie Gray (PORT)
F: Jack Riewoldt (RICH) - Ben Brown (NME) - Luke Bruest (HAW)
R: Max Gawn (MEL) - Nat Fyfe (FRE) - Clayton Oliver (MEL)
I: Elliot Yeo (WCE) - Brodie Grundy (COLL) - Steele Sidebottom (COLL) - Patrick Cripps (CARL)

This is tough. Way too many midfielders probably.

B: Tom Jonas (PORT) - Daniel Talia (ADE) - Tom Stewart (GEE)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WCE) - Robbie Tarrant (NME) - Rory Laird (ADE)
C: Bryce Gibbs (ADE) - Tom Mitchell (HAW) - Jack Macrae (WB)
HF: Josh Caddy (RICH) - Jack Darling (WCE) - Robbie Gray (PORT)
F: Jesse Hogan (MEL) - Ben Brown (NME) - Luke Bruest (HAW)
R: Max Gawn (MEL) - Nat Fyfe (FRE) - Clayton Oliver (MEL)
I: Andrew Gaff (WCE) - Brodie Grundy (COLL) - Trent Cotchin (RICH) - Patrick Cripps (CARL)

 

[jatz14]

a) Gawn and Grundy are easily in the best 22 players this year,
b) You're not leaving out 2 players to name 2 rucks. This implies a normal team has no rucks to start with.

The ideal All Australian team would have the countries best 22 players in it, and those 22 players would fit nicely into a team, eg You would have a ruck, a backup ruck, a couple of KPFs, a couple of KPD, a third tall, a couple of outside mids, a couple of inside, etc, etc, but fate is not usually so neat.

A squad of the leagues best players will not equally represent all positions, so how far do you go to ensure your picking players for the position, rather than recognising best players.

What if at years end, they decide Gawn and Grundy are the 23rd and 24th best players. Team needs a ruck, so 1 goes in, someone therefore has to come out, but do you include both, and push out 2 others?

 

[Richo83]

The ideal All Australian team would have the countries best 22 players in it, and those 22 players would fit nicely into a team, eg You would have a ruck, a backup ruck, a couple of KPFs, a couple of KPD, a third tall, a couple of outside mids, a couple of inside, etc, etc, but fate is not usually so neat.

A squad of the leagues best players will not equally represent all positions, so how far do you go to ensure your picking players for the position, rather than recognising best players.

What if at years end, they decide Gawn and Grundy are the 23rd and 24th best players. Team needs a ruck, so 1 goes in, someone therefore has to come out, but do you include both, and push out 2 others?

If they're that lowly rankee then only one needs to be in there. But both are arguably in the top ten players in the league at the moment.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

No way they will have 2 rucks. Didn’t have 2 last year when Ryder and Kreuzer were both equally dominating games, won’t have it this year

 

[TooBlue14]

B: Tom Jonas (PORT) - Daniel Talia (ADE) - Tom Stewart (GEE)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WCE) - Robbie Tarrant (NME) - Rory Laird (ADE)
C: Bryce Gibbs (ADE) - Tom Mitchell (HAW) - Jack Macrae (WB)
HF: Josh Caddy (RICH) - Jack Darling (WCE) - Robbie Gray (PORT)
F: Jesse Hogan (MEL) - Ben Brown (NME) - Luke Bruest (HAW)
R: Max Gawn (MEL) - Nat Fyfe (FRE) - Clayton Oliver (MEL)
I: Andrew Gaff (WCE) - Brodie Grundy (COLL) - Trent Cotchin (RICH) - Patrick Cripps (CARL)

Cripps starts over oliver. He’s ranked number two in the Brownlow prediction right now.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

No way they will have 2 rucks. Didn’t have 2 last year when Ryder and Kreuzer were both equally dominating games, won’t have it this year

Surely taking the piss.

 

[00Stinger]

Cripps starts over oliver. He’s ranked number two in the Brownlow right now.

the brownlow hasnt started yet champ

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[Harlequin Dream]

Surely taking the piss.

Has to be.

There is a world of difference between having a pair of ruckmen in the top 25 players in the AFL with having a pair of ruckmen in the top 5 players in the AFL.

 

[El Doederino]

B: Tom Jonas (PORT) - Daniel Talia (ADE) - Tom Stewart (GEE)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WCE) - Robbie Tarrant (NME) - Rory Laird (ADE)
C: Bryce Gibbs (ADE) - Tom Mitchell (HAW) - Jack Macrae (WB)
HF: Josh Caddy (RICH) - Jack Darling (WCE) - Robbie Gray (PORT)
F: Jesse Hogan (MEL) - Ben Brown (NME) - Luke Bruest (HAW)
R: Max Gawn (MEL) - Nat Fyfe (FRE) - Clayton Oliver (MEL)
I: Andrew Gaff (WCE) - Brodie Grundy (COLL) - Trent Cotchin (RICH) - Patrick Cripps (CARL)

Being a bit generous with Gibbs

I’d have Seedsman ahead of him personally

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Being a bit generous with Gibbs

I’d have Seedsman ahead of him personally

I probably need to watch more Adelaide, every time I see them Gibbs has been great.

Though Crows fans would know better, as they’ve seen more

 

[El Doederino]

I probably need to watch more Adelaide, every time I see them Gibbs has been great.

Though Crows fands would know better, as they’ve seen more

Gibbs has been very good, but had a few quiet games, whereas Seed has been quite consistent and his impact has been huge.

 

[Deledio_Judd]

Gibbs has been very good, but had a few quiet games, whereas Seed has been quite consistent and his impact has been huge.

Gibbs has dropped off a lot last few weeks. Started on fire but his form has sort of matched Adelaide's in a way, probably highlighting his importance to them with a number of key players out.

Edit: Definitely not in the 22 at this stage

 

[Sprout]

I think Caddy, Cotchin, Rance and Martin are in the 40 man squad, in order from most likely to least likely at the moment.

Astbury, Riewoldt can still get there depending on the rest of the year.

If Cotchin is as prominent as you and others are suggesting I wonder why Nathan Jones is yet again slipping under the radar. Very comparable stats. In fact he’s exceeding Cotchin in disposals, goals, inside 50s, score involvements and metres gained.

 

[Damon_3388]

Cripps starts over oliver. He’s ranked number two in the Brownlow right now.

Lol

 

[Grrr]

If Cotchin is as prominent as you and others are suggesting I wonder why Nathan Jones is yet again slipping under the radar. Very comparable stats. In fact he’s exceeding Cotchin in disposals, goals, inside 50s, score involvements and metres gained.

Cotchin is having a better season than all those Richmond players mentioned. Jones goes under the radar always. Now that he has some talent around him he is more creative, which was the knock on him. In that way both he and Cotchin are having similar seasons, they don't have to do all the dirty work any more.

 

[Shooter#17]

B: Tom Jonas (PORT) - Daniel Talia (ADE) - Tom Stewart (GEE)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WCE) - Robbie Tarrant (NME) - Rory Laird (ADE)
C: Bryce Gibbs (ADE) - Tom Mitchell (HAW) - Jack Macrae (WB)
HF: Josh Caddy (RICH) - Jack Darling (WCE) - Robbie Gray (PORT)
F: Jesse Hogan (MEL) - Ben Brown (NME) - Luke Bruest (HAW)
R: Max Gawn (MEL) - Nat Fyfe (FRE) - Clayton Oliver (MEL)
I: Andrew Gaff (WCE) - Brodie Grundy (COLL) - Trent Cotchin (RICH) - Patrick Cripps (CARL)

Side looks pretty good.
Jimmy Webster would be close I’d have him instead of Stewart.
Gibbs has fallen off quite a lot and wouldn’t be in the side currently.
Tarrent has been ok but a long way from AA, not sure who’d I put in as CHB though.
Definitely 2 ruckman in as both would be too 5 players in the Como currently.

 

[Marc_Remillard]

Man even blocking Sweet Jesus isnt enough. He somehow manages to be the most annoying person on here even when I can't read his obnoxious dribble. He has a true gift

I've blocked him as well but I can always tell when he's drinking his own bath water again

 

[00Stinger]

I probably need to watch more Adelaide, every time I see them Gibbs has been great.

Though Crows fands would know better, as they’ve seen more

typical Gibbs last Sunday v Melbourne. Piss weak



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[Ricky Vaughn]

Side looks pretty good.
Jimmy Webster would be close I’d have him instead of Stewart.
Gibbs has fallen off quite a lot and wouldn’t be in the side currently.
Tarrent has been ok but a long way from AA, not sure who’d I put in as CHB though.
Definitely 2 ruckman in as both would be too 5 players in the Como currently.

Webster has been fine, but he's a bit of an empty stats player. Has polled 4 votes in one game from the coaches, while Stewart has polled 28 across 5 games.
Stewart has him covered for impact.

There's a collection of posters mentioning Gibbs, he's barely holding on. The argument to drop him is getting stronger.

There are some solid candidates for CHB, Rance and Andrews would be my next closest key defenders. Neither Talia or Tarrant are really locked in.

 

[TooBlue14]

Lol

http://www.afl.com.au/brownlow-medal/predictor - keep laughing all you like