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Redline

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The co-captians thread has exploded thanks to a C4 bomb.

They reckon they'll get pick 2 for Wines from Melbourne and undercut us again.

Pick 2 for a regulation inside body that can't kick though lol.

I would have Wines value as a stock standard accumulator somewhere in the teens.

C4 has north sniffing around Wines (eww)

Rhys Shaw looks like he's in tank mode after securing the job but surely they can't get below Carlton with either their first or second. North would have to lose both remaining games and Carlton would have to win both.

North also play Melbourne who are full blown tanking, while Carlton will have to play Geelong in round 23. So as long as Melbourne don't do something epic moronic like trade pick 2 for Wines we should retain the trump hand for Luko.
Wines would be a lower first round maybe with another swap of picks I would of thought. No where near pick 2, the easiest way to shut down a stupid trade suggestion is to swap around. If Port had pick 2 would they give it up for Wines?
 

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Wines would be a lower first round maybe with another swap of picks I would of thought. No where near pick 2, the easiest way to shut down a stupid trade suggestion is to swap around. If Port had pick 2 would they give it up for Wines?
Or would you take 25 year old Wines ahead of any of the 18 year olds Rowell, Anderson, Green, Ash or Young who are all significantly better uses of the footy? I certainly wouldn't, hell I'd even probably take Brodie Kemp ACL and all before him.
 

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Or would you take 25 year old Wines ahead of any of the 18 year olds Rowell, Anderson, Green, Ash or Young who are all significantly better uses of the footy? I certainly wouldn't, hell I'd even probably take Brodie Kemp ACL and all before him.
On the Ollie Wines thread under trading, there has been some spitballing to Wines' value. I keep coming back to what we got For Charlie Cameron and thinking that range would be about where Wines sits. very different players, but if I was picking a team, I would be going Cameron over wines and therefore a pick between 10-15 is about the right value for him as a player (forgetting contracted etc)
 

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Just listened to the CrowCast TNL for this week. Usually like the discussion.

But please, we are not getting a second round pick for Eddie in any trade or universe. And we certainly wouldn’t get anything more than a 3rd rounder for JJ. To suggest we’d get a first rounder is simply laughable.
 

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Just listened to the CrowCast TNL for this week. Usually like the discussion.

But please, we are not getting a second round pick for Eddie in any trade or universe. And we certainly wouldn’t get anything more than a 3rd rounder for JJ. To suggest we’d get a first rounder is simply laughable.
Yeah, I have to admit I thought that was a pair of stretches as well.

Although Feen saved himself when he said players like Eddie would be better off used in a package to get Luko. But like many in here, i'll believe that when it happens!
 

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The co-captians thread has exploded thanks to a C4 bomb.

They reckon they'll get pick 2 for Wines from Melbourne and undercut us again.

Pick 2 for a regulation inside body that can't kick though lol.

I would have Wines value as a stock standard accumulator somewhere in the teens.

C4 has north sniffing around Wines (eww)

Rhys Shaw looks like he's in tank mode after securing the job but surely they can't get below Carlton with either their first or second. North would have to lose both remaining games and Carlton would have to win both.

North also play Melbourne who are full blown tanking, while Carlton will have to play Geelong in round 23. So as long as Melbourne don't do something epic moronic like trade pick 2 for Wines we should retain the trump hand for Luko.
I know Wines is mates with Viney but isn't an inside mid the last type of player Melbourne need?
 

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I know Wines is mates with Viney but isn't an inside mid the last type of player Melbourne need?
I think they're just living in hope. There is the Viney connection and I think back in the day Melbourne were interested in Wines when they were in desperate need of inside mids. So they're porbably drawing a long bow from that.

Luko will be coup of the decade for whichever SA club pulls it off so obviously they'd like to be ahead in any race.
 

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I get he can't say anything else but I found it interesting this morning that Eddie said that Don Pyke has told him he is a required player.

I don't really see how that could possibly be the case. We all love Eddie but we have carried him this year and as popular as he is off field I think our list would be in better shape without him.

I guess what I am saying is while we can't push him out the door because of his contract we are crazy if we are not encouraging him to look at opportunities for next year and post football.
Club is scared of the backlash. Even if they knew it's the right thing for Eddie and the club that he explores options elsewhere the club won't entertain it. We aren't Hawthorn. Also when you have imbeciles like Stephen Rowe on the radio saying they will lead the charge with pitchforks if Betts is traded you just know he will be not be going anywhere. The club will likely offer Betts another 1 year contract on top of the current deal. The ironic thing is that Rowe is the first to complain about our ageing list but is also the first to lose his s**t if the club tries to do anything about it. Fools like Rowe add to the clubs problems.
 
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Just listened to the CrowCast TNL for this week. Usually like the discussion.

But please, we are not getting a second round pick for Eddie in any trade or universe. And we certainly wouldn’t get anything more than a 3rd rounder for JJ. To suggest we’d get a first rounder is simply laughable.
Good post, it is frustrating. I think you are about spot on with Jenkins and Betts would be virtual giveaway to get him to the club of choice.

Where would you see Keith and Greenwood if they were up for trade? I would of thought a low second round for Keith given his year and a 3rd round for Greenwood?
 

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Just listened to the CrowCast TNL for this week. Usually like the discussion.

But please, we are not getting a second round pick for Eddie in any trade or universe. And we certainly wouldn’t get anything more than a 3rd rounder for JJ. To suggest we’d get a first rounder is simply laughable.
Heard that about betts last night. Nearly fell off my chair in laughter when one of the casters called Betts the best small forward in the game currently and worth a first rounder. Surely was just joking. I would presume a 3rd or 4th rounder for Betts. The real benefit is salary cap relief. Jenkins is an early 2nd rounder if we pay 30% of his salary. 40 goal forwards that can ruck dont grow on trees. Keath is a late first rounder. Every bit as good as Leaver. We should not trade Keath under any circumstances imo. Keath started his career late and still has 5 years minimum in the game. Knowing how Burton operates he will likely be traded.
 
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Lynch and Jenkins are the ones I would be sending to Melbourne for pick 20 and a third.

Good mates, keep them together and helps with Melbourne's forward woes since losing Hogan.

Allows us to go hard with pick 4 for Luko, who can take Lynch's spot, and still have picks 20 and 22 to go after some likely midfield types
 

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Lynch and Jenkins are the ones I would be sending to Melbourne for pick 20 and a third.

Good mates, keep them together and helps with Melbourne's forward woes since losing Hogan.

Allows us to go hard with pick 4 for Luko, who can take Lynch's spot, and still have picks 20 and 22 to go after some likely midfield types
I’d be wanting much more than that for Lynch.
 

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With only 2 weeks left in the H&A season, there hasn't been a single Crows player announce his retirement. Much as I'd like to see Jacobs, Douglas, Otten & Mackay pulling the plug voluntarily, I think it's unlikely to happen this year. Otten probably would have done so if he hadn't been selected for the last 2 games.

I get really bored reading the PlayStation trade scenarios some people love to throw up at this time of the year. They're completely pointless. There's not a snowball's chance in Hell that Betts, Atkins, Lynch, or Laird will be traded, so why bother suggesting it?

JJ appears to be on the outer with Pyke, so I think he'll probably request a trade - if Pyke isn't sacked first (and even that might not stop him leaving). Greenwood hasn't re-signed and appears to be keeping his options open as well, so count him as another likely departure. The same probably holds true for Keath, though I think he's more likely to stick with Adelaide.
 

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