Unofficial Preview 2020 Draft Discussion

[Billyc]

You'd think someone would have to bid on them before their respective club's picks otherwise they basically get 2 for the price of one. Honestly I can see a bid coming in for Campbell first purely because Sydney have a pick before the dogs.

Clubs won’t play petty games with such high picks. A bid will come for JUH because he seems to be a universal top 3 pick. With Campbell, clubs will only bid if they think he’s worth that pick. If North bid on Campbell at 2 and Swans rated him 6, they’d likely just let him go and take the better prospect in their view

Opinions on Campbell seem to vary anywhere from 1 to 8-9 on what I’ve read so will be interesting to see when the bid comes and if it does come before Swans pick, whether they match.

 

[TylerDurden]

Phillips isn't really a class player by foot where as Bruhn has that reputation.

If you watch this video of Phillips he tends together out of congestion by pumping his legs hard and ridding the bumps. Sometimes he gets out and sometimes he crashes into the tackler and just dumps the ball out.


Where as Bruhn is able to create time and space for himself with the way he moves.


Granted the video of Phillips is every involvement where a the video of Bruhn is just highlights but even in Phillips highlight video on the afl.com article, the same approach is visible with no examples of being able to create time and space through movement.

So for me, I'd go Bruhn on AFL potential.

Thanks mate. Phillips looks to be a clearance machine, but his kick needs work.
Couldn't take much from the Bruhn pick.

Tells me we are praying for Hollands.

 

[Mojo]

Is there any guarantee that Adelaide and North Melbourne will even place bids on Ugle-Hagen or Campbell? It’s almost pointless seeing as the Bulldogs and Sydney will match bids anyway.

If a club believe a draftee is the best available when it's their turn to pick, they will ALWAYS select that player. Moreover, the idea that a club would pass on an NGA prospect because another club will likely match is 'Three Stooges' level stupid. (not calling you stupid WWSD)

 

[SuperSic]

I’ll preface this with the fact that I’m certainly no draft expert, but here are my thoughts based on what I’ve seen recently:

I think Hollands is exactly what our midfield needs, I’d have been certain on targetting him before he did his ACL. My worry is that he’ll be one of those guys with bad knees and we already have so many players on our list who are managing bad injuries (Jaeger, Titch, Sicily, Impey, Patton, Scully). The most worrying part for me is the way he did it, it wasn’t a contact injury like Sicily or Impey, he literally just tried to jump off the ground in a local training drill and did it. That’s never a good sign. Bruhn might be the alternative that we end up with if he is picked before our pick.

It’s obviously harder to get a read on this years crop with the lack of footy and vision that is available. I don’t think we can go too wrong with any of the top end kids to be honest. They all look solid which I didn’t think was the case with some of the top picks last year (I didn’t really rate Ash or McAsey etc.).

I’d love us to grab a KPD this year because I think we really need that Harris Andrews/Darcy Moore/Jacob Weitering type. The King twins are the future of KPF, they’re 200cm+, quick as lightning and contested marking beasts. In order to be competing in 3 years time you need to have KPD who can go with them in the air, on the lead and on the ground... it’s a scary thought. I’d be happy with DGB because he looks the most likely of the KPD in this draft and I also don’t mind the look of Zach Reid, a 202cm athletic KPD with great foot skills. Perhaps if we somehow get a pick between 10-15 we could look at Reid here.

While I wouldn’t be against picking a KPF, I think we still have some hope in that area with our current stocks (Lewis, Jeka, Patton). I’d be happy with McDonald but we might end up with Tilthorpe who I think has a higher ceiling but I’m not as certain that he’ll make it.

Frustratingly, I’m actually starting to think that Braeden Campbell could be the best prospect from this draft. Like Hollands, he would be absolutely perfect in our midfield. He’s fast, tough, good overhead and has a lazer-like left boot that I haven’t seen in many other prospects in recent times. He reminds me of a young Luke Hodge which absolutely breaks my heart because even if we want him we can’t have him. F**k the Swans and the nothern academies. No wonder Clarko resents the draft so much.

 

[Stratton24]

Pray to whatever we hold dear that North are looking for some cheap revenge after Sydney stole Blakey.

it makes no different to us, Sydney would just take their extra time and trade that pick to another club in a deal for them to get more points or for a 2021 first rounder.

 

[VandoHawk]

Unless North Melbourne play it extremely safe Hollands is likely going Pick 2 so I'd caution people getting their hopes up. One of O'Driscoll/Phillips/Bruhn/Granger-Barrass much more likely.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

it makes no different to us, Sydney would just take their extra time and trade that pick to another club in a deal for them to get more points or for a 2021 first rounder.

It makes a lot of difference to us. It could be the difference between Sydney having two top five talents (e.g. Hollands and Campbell), or just Campbell.

 

[Stratton24]

It makes a lot of difference to us. It could be the difference between Sydney having two top five talents (e.g. Hollands and Campbell), or just Campbell.

What difference does it make if Sydney trade out their pick for North's 2021 first rounder and North end up with two top five talents?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

What difference does it make if Sydney trade out their pick for North's 2021 first rounder and North end up with two top five talents?

In that specific scenario it doesn't. Sydney will only trade out should a team bid on him with any of the first two picks - if they trade out then they need to ensure they'll have enough points to match for him.

They also have Gulden, another top talent to worry about.

It will be hard for them to ensure they have enough points for both if they trade out.

 

[Stratton24]

In that specific scenario it doesn't. Sydney will only trade out should a team bid on him with any of the first two picks - if they trade out then they need to ensure they'll have enough points to match for him.

They also have Gulden, another top talent to worry about.

It will be hard for them to ensure they have enough points for both if they trade out.

So they would trade to a side like Geelong to get more points. Either way someone takes that pick before us.

 

[Teamwork Talks]

Phillips isn't really a class player by foot where as Bruhn has that reputation.

If you watch this video of Phillips he tends together out of congestion by pumping his legs hard and ridding the bumps. Sometimes he gets out and sometimes he crashes into the tackler and just dumps the ball out.


Where as Bruhn is able to create time and space for himself with the way he moves.


Granted the video of Phillips is every involvement where a the video of Bruhn is just highlights but even in Phillips highlight video on the afl.com article, the same approach is visible with no examples of being able to create time and space through movement.

So for me, I'd go Bruhn on AFL potential.

Thanks BrisHawk.
Brilliant post.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

He is not quick, but is tough as nails and big bodied. Cripps is not quick aswell, neither is Fyfe. But are the best big bodied mids in the comp. Give me that over speed. We lack hardness in the middle. Already playing against men aswell, and is not fazed. Hollands is dynamic, but will see how dynamic after a knee reco.

See I don’t think we lack hardness in the middle(Worpel, Finn and Jones developing) and inside mids are easily found.

We need someone who can get in and out the contest with ball in hand, and with speed.

Hollands ticks that box.

 

[PenAndPaper]

Would love us to have a look at Eddie Ford & Heath Chapman if they are available at our later pics (Ford more likely to be around).

 

[westhawk]

See I don’t think we lack hardness in the middle(Worpel, Finn and Jones developing) and inside mids are easily found.

We need someone who can get in and out the contest with ball in hand, and with speed.

Hollands ticks that box.

I rate Holland’s aswell, let’s just get another pick somehow in top ten and take Holland’s and Odriscoll, then grab Downie. Our midfield will be tough to beat for many years.

 

[Luv_our_club]

See I don’t think we lack hardness in the middle(Worpel, Finn and Jones developing) and inside mids are easily found.

We need someone who can get in and out the contest with ball in hand, and with speed.

Hollands ticks that box.

Can you go wrong with this guy?

 

[TylerDurden]

Can you go wrong with this guy?

Done an ACL. And will probably go before our pick anyway. But looks an absolute jet.

 

[kirbatron]

Hollands oozes class. get him!

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Can you go wrong with this guy?

I have watched this video at least 10 times now, i need to stop because it is just making me sad knowing he will probably go before our pick.

 

[TylerDurden]

I have watched this video at least 10 times now, i need to stop because it is just making me sad knowing he will probably go before our pick.

Also, with the ACL, will he ever have this agility again? To be fair, he may slide due to this risk alone.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Also, with the ACL, will he ever have this agility again? To be fair, he may slide due to this risk alone.

I am not too concerned about the ACL, at his size i think he will be fine with 18 months out.

I just see no way he gets through North, they would be morons to let him slide...

On second thought maybe he will make it

 

[The German Hunter]

Can you go wrong with this guy?

Can play. Booming kick and so clean. On the Holland’s bandwagon

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Wouldn’t mind trading up to norfs pick and getting Holland’s.

 

[Brishawk]

I am not too concerned about the ACL, at his size i think he will be fine with 18 months out.

I just see no way he gets through North, they would be morons to let him slide...

On second thought maybe he will make it

Good chance they take McDonald. Yeah doubt he makes it past Sydney though.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Good chance they take McDonald. Yeah doubt he makes it past Sydney though.

Yeah i could see it but i think Larkey is a pretty great prospect going forward, would be nice to have Simpkin and Hollands delivering it inside 50 for the next decade.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Wouldn’t mind trading up to norfs pick and getting Holland’s.

Not real keen on this, the cost of trading up even just 1 or 2 spots at the top end of the Draft is huge. As good as Hollands looks he is not a clear standout.