Unofficial Preview 2020 Draft Discussion

[Roby]

If McDonald and Phillips dropped to pick 5 I'd be undecided who'd I'd pick. This is how I rate them:

Logan McDonald	196 cm	86 kg				Overall
Physical	14.0	Mental	13.7	Skills	12.7	13.44
Acceleration	14	Aggression	17	Kicking	16
Agility	12	Bravery	13	Handballing	12
Balance	12	Composure	13	Hands	15
Jumping	14	Concentration	13	Goalkicking	13
Stamina	18	Decisions	13	Marking	13
Speed	14	Flair	12	Body Work	13
Strength	14	Leadership	13	Tackling	14
Durability	14	Off the Ball	14	Kick Distance	17
		Positioning	15	Two sided	8
		Teamwork	10	Spoiling/Punching	10
		Vision	13	Ruckwork	9
		Work Rate	19
		Clutch	13

Will Phillips	180cm	80kg
Physical	15.8	Mental	16.8	Skills	13.7	15.42
Acceleration	19	Aggression	19	Kicking	13
Agility	19	Bravery	17	Handballing	19
Balance	19	Composure	14	Hands	17
Jumping	11	Concentration	17	Goalkicking	12
Stamina	16	Decisions	17	Marking	10
Speed	14	Flair	13	Body Work	14
Strength	14	Leadership	19	Tackling	19
Durability	14	Off the Ball	19	Kick Distance	13
		Positioning	13	Two sided	14
		Teamwork	19	Spoiling/Punching	14
		Vision	18	Ruckwork	6
		Work Rate	19
		Clutch	14

Will rates higher than Logan in terms of overall attributes but he is also 16cm shorter and 6kg lighter! I wonder if Will had put much more size.

Will has the very likely potential to be future captain. Have a listen to him here again

Will Phillips; AFL Draftee - potential top 10 selection at the AFL draft on Wednesday night

Oakleigh Chargers Will Phillips is a potential top 10 selection at the AFL draft on Wednesday night, he hasn't rested on his laurels after a strong 2019 season, using the COVID affected 2020 to build on his strengths and stay hungry throughout this year to achieve his AFL dream

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It's difficult. I'd still be going over more game footage to make a decision.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

They are risking missing the kid they want at the Swans pick (small chance) just for a 6 pick upgrade in the 2nd round?

No chance.

Exactly. Takes the risk off us and puts it on them. Would be great if we did the swap and then the Swans take Hollands ahead of North

 

[TylerDurden]

I bet this is for us to bid on Campbell, I reckon he’s the one we want the most. If we promise a bid on Campbell to North then we won’t need to add much for the swap. Maybe a swap of pick 30 and 24.

Tampering.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

I bet this is for us to bid on Campbell, I reckon he’s the one we want the most. If we promise a bid on Campbell to North then we won’t need to add much for the swap. Maybe a swap of pick 30 and 24.

How does that help when our bid on Campbell would come after the Swans pick?

Edited: yep i get ya based on us bidding at pick 2

 

[Big Hotdog]

How does that help when our bid on Campbell would come after the Swans pick?

Edited: yep i get ya based on us bidding at pick 2

This is based on us swapping Norths 2 for our 5.
Worst case we end up with Campbell.

 

[Teamwork Talks]

Logan is the target!!

Or maybe DGB is the target and we are trying to get ahead of the Swans.

 

[ML4Hodgy]

Any solid mail we actually want McDonald?
Maybe we want DGB, which would still give North McDonald/Hollands/Thilthorpe at pick 4, and that’s why we need to jump over the Swans...

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

2 flags

And some of the best times at the G that we’ve ever had.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

Don’t be surprised if this is all apart of getting 2 top 5 picks.

 

[Big Hotdog]

I don't think we want McDonald as badly as you guys seem to think..

That's only because you cant have him...

 

[TylerDurden]

Don’t be surprised if this is all apart of getting 2 top 5 picks.

We're not giving up a future first.

 

[kenneje]

We're not giving up a future first.

Hahaha, they're going to bloody do it aren't they.

 

[lethalselbow]

I don't think we want McDonald as badly as you guys seem to think..

Relax. All good.

Most don't care what Essendon want. It's only about what Hawthorn want.

 

[TylerDurden]

Hahaha, they're going to bloody do it aren't they.

No chance.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Can't wait until this is all over it's so much less stressful not having 1st round picks.

You are stressed about Hawthorn having a top 5 pick in the draft?

What the hell?

 

[Scrads]

In terms of the speculation that Saints will bid on Downie - we did the right thing by them by delisting Frawley instead of having him retire, is there enough good-will there for them to not make a bid?

 

[Yardie]

No but acceleration isn't just 20m. People hit top speed before that.

I think 20m is about right to understand acceleration. Usain Bolt didn't have the acceleration (he was close though) of some of his peers but his top speed was phenomenal hence overrunning and pulling away.

 

[CobberRodgers]

We're not giving up a future first.

If anything, we should be using pick 24 this year (packaged) to try and gain an EXTRA first next year.

 

[danielG]

I think 20m is about right to understand acceleration. Usain Bolt didn't have the acceleration (he was close though) of some of his peers but his top speed was phenomenal hence overrunning and pulling away.

My guess with the north pick swap would be their pick 2 for our pick 4 and 24 (which we really don’t want too much I guess with Downie bid a risk). They want Hollands and will still get him and we are a guarantee to get McDonald.. I like the option.. or Do we on trade it to Bombers for multiple picks.. and have a promise in place with north to swap one of our bombers picks for their pick 11.. so they still get Hollands and move up as well..if they’re desperate for Hollands they can’t do a deal direct with Bombers cause Hollands will be gone at 6...

 

[KermitJagger]

I think 20m is about right to understand acceleration. Usain Bolt didn't have the acceleration (he was close though) of some of his peers but his top speed was phenomenal hence overrunning and pulling away.

Typically lever length equals poorer acceleration. Usain Bolt's height made him slower off the mark than competitors but his top speed was higher.

Interesting fact is that Olympic weightlifters are typically faster over 20 metres than Olympic sprinters, mainly because of the explosiveness and the inherent lever length advantages of Olympic weightlifting being short arms and legs.

Almost completely unrelated but still!

 

[On Topic]

We have a lot of holes and potential areas of improvement on our list so we are in a win-win situation here for who lands at our pick. I was initially not too excited about the draft pool but I'd be really happy with any one of Phillips, Hollands, McDonald, DBG or Thilthorpe.

 

[Rudi Gilham]

Surely it can't be Logan McDonald we are after? We have no idea of the Crows may take him with their first pick. It would be too much of a risk unless we were convinced they are taking Thilthorpe.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Surely it can't be Logan McDonald we are after? We have no idea of the Crows may take him with their first pick. It would be too much of a risk unless we were convinced they are taking Thilthorpe.

Any trade we make wouldn't be until Draft night after the Crows make the selection

 

[List Manager]

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned as yet, unless we really are all in for Logan McDonald.

Trade picks 4 and 24 to North for picks 2 and 30.....then offer picks 2 and 30 plus future pick to Bombers for picks 6 and 8 if they have their hearts set on McDonald.

We draft Archie Perkins and Zac Reid/Nic Cox plus Connor Downie.
Bombers upgrade from Zac Reid to definitely Logan McDonald and say Tanner Bruhn but trade out one of their early picks for pick 30 for the McDonald privilege.
North get their man Elijah Hollands plus the bonus of a 6 pick upgrade in second round.

Fair and reasonable for all parties?

 

[CobberRodgers]

I bet this is for us to bid on Campbell, I reckon he’s the one we want the most. If we promise a bid on Campbell to North then we won’t need to add much for the swap. Maybe a swap of pick 30 and 24.

To be honest, this I'd do. Kid is a gun.