2020 FA, Draft and Trade HYPOTHETICAL thread...now with new DFA speculation!

[Strapping Young Lad]

A good reference point for picks.

 

[Gliggin]

Breust and a second round for Stephenson and an early third round.

Shiels for a 3rd round

Package those picks and throw in a sweetener to get the best possible player we can to suit out needs. Depending on what we need the most of course. I'm of the opinion that we lack pace through the midfield and wings and need an X-Factor.

Not going to try and pretend like I know what our list will look like next year considering the cuts to list sizes etc. But if we are going to make a couple of bold moves, these are the ones I would do.

Stephenson isn't necessarily worth more than Punky, but age would play a part in how this negotiation would play out.

You lost me at Breust.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Get Pick 3.

Trade that Pick 3 to Freo for Cerra + 7/8.

Bring in the 2020 1st for a low-teens 2020 1st.

Then grab Downie, later in the day.

Cerra + 7/8 + 12-15 + Downie. There's 3 midfielder + a KPP from the same off-season.

Think we need a higher pick for downie.
He's one of the few know talents coming into the draft due to covid, do will get an early call out

 

[Rushed_Behind]

Just a hypothetical but would anyone offer our first rounder which is looking like 3 to the crows and give b crouch a big enough contract to net them pick 2 compo so effectively they get pick 2 and 4.

it relies on no one wanting crouch or not offering something big enough.

 

[eldorado]

Just a hypothetical but would anyone offer our first rounder which is looking like 3 to the crows and give b crouch a big enough contract to net them pick 2 compo so effectively they get pick 2 and 4.

it relies on no one wanting crouch or not offering something big enough.

I think i MUST be missing something here, because otherwise it sounds like the most horrendous trade I've ever heard of.

Can you explain the trade again?

 

[Yardie]

What I hope for:
Trade Stratton, Smith and Frawley for picks 1, 2, 4 & 5 plus Rowell and the King bro’s.

What I fear:
Trade Gunston, Smith, Worpel and pick 3 for Castagna, pick 60 and a packet of chips

What flavour is the chips?

 

[Brant]

Just a hypothetical but would anyone offer our first rounder which is looking like 3 to the crows and give b crouch a big enough contract to net them pick 2 compo so effectively they get pick 2 and 4.

it relies on no one wanting crouch or not offering something big enough.

So, in summary, we go from having Pick 3 & heaps of Cap Space to having no high pick paying Brad Crouch way overs, whereas Adelaide go from paying Brad Crouch way overs to having Picks 1, 2 & 3?

Not even Collective Mind could construct such an outlandish off-season plan for Adelaide.

You, sir, are drunk!

 

[Rushed_Behind]

I think i MUST be missing something here, because otherwise it sounds like the most horrendous trade I've ever heard of.

Can you explain the trade again?

So, in summary, we go from having Pick 3 & heaps of Cap Space to having no high pick paying Brad Crouch way overs, whereas Adelaide go from paying Brad Crouch way overs to having Picks 1, 2 & 3?

Not even Collective Mind could construct such an outlandish off-season plan for Adelaide.

You, sir, are drunk!

not drunk just got a 4 month old not sleeping well. I forgot to add for their pick 1.

so we get pick 1 and crouch

lose pick 3 and cap space.

 

[eldorado]

not drunk just got a 4 month old not sleeping well. I forgot to add for their pick 1.

so we get pick 1 and crouch

lose pick 3 and cap space.

I think the AFL would nix that deal; they brought in a 'pub test' after the Veale Deal, that every trade has to be equitable on its own merits to avoid scenarios like this, where the outcome hinges on exploiting a seperate rule or process.

In Veale/Rawlings case, the separate process was the Bulldogs getting Rawling with Pick 1 in the PSD. In this case, it would be trying to collude to get the Crows a higher compo pick.

And, even if the AFL didn't step in, the Crows would be very wary that the AFL would step up with the compo pick you describe,. So I don't think they would go for it either.

 

[Bardo State]

I'm not as informed on player situations, contracts, etc as I was a few years ago so might throw some names out to see if others can tell me where things are at with a few players. Especially with lost size and cap reductions, teams could be looking to offload fringe players this year.

Do others see Peter Wright as a potential good fit? 1-1.5 goal a game genuine forward/ruck who can stand under a high ball in a pack (unlike leading kpfs in Lewis, O'Brien, Gunston). Not in GCs 22, in the right age bracket. No major injury history other than a medial a few years ago. Lots of forwards potentially going around in this year's trade/fa period so might not be overpriced in a trade.

Also thinking of large mids which Hawthorn lack, is Brayden Sier still considered on the outer at the pies? With an injury history, his best 22 spot not nailed down, you could see a 'fresh start' narrative coming out of the pies who have to pay De Goey, Moore, Daicos this year and a few big names next year. Also lands in that sweet spot age bracket for Hawthorn.

 

[Aramis]

Pick 9 from WB for Breust plus picks - rubbish picks - just for the purposes of points for Ugle-Hagan bid match.

That pick 9 is gettable and Id be doing that trade, all in on youth.

 

[H00t]

What flavour is the chips?

Light & Tangy, the best flavour

 

[Yardie]

Light & Tangy, the best flavour

This could be a deal! Get Wrighty on the phone!

 

[Steven Tyler]

Light & Tangy, the best flavour

Nothing beats salt n vinegar

 

[Judd2Sewell]

What flavour is the chips?

Salt and vinegar or no deal

 

[H00t]

Salt and vinegar or no deal

We might have to throw in Will Day if we want to choose the flavour. We wouldn’t want to be construed as ripping a team off

 

[SSSSSS]

It's getting to the point where I don't know if the calls to trade Breust is a meme or legitimate.

 

[ML4Hodgy]

It's getting to the point where I don't know if the calls to trade Breust is a meme or legitimate.

Breust and Gunston are our best 2 players who are old enough to be worth something, and probably too old to be in our next premiership side. Gotta put up something if you want to get something.

I’d have no issue trading either, provided they wanted to go and chase the cash/flags, and we got something good for them.
Pushing them out would be bad for the culture and reputation.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Breust and Gunston are our best 2 players who are old enough to be worth something, and probably too old to be in our next premiership side. Gotta put up something if you want to get something.

I’d have no issue trading either, provided they wanted to go and chase the cash/flags, and we got something good for them.
Pushing them out would be bad for the culture and reputation.

But that is the thing they don't want to go as far as we know, if that changes i get throwing the names up.

Currently they both seem to really bleed brown and gold and want to finish up here.

 

[TylerDurden]

But that is the thing they don't want to go as far as we know, if that changes i get throwing the names up.

Currently they both seem to really bleed brown and gold and want to finish up here.

Breust says he always wants to finish here.
Cant see Gunner requesting a trade either.
Mind you, if we only offer 1 year, and another club offers 3+, then maybe.

 

[VandoHawk]

Breust says he always wants to finish here.
Cant see Gunner requesting a trade either.
Mind you, if we only offer 1 year, and another club offers 3+, then maybe.

My biggest issue with the trading Bruest narrative is the difficulty in getting value for him. He's going to be 30 at the start of next year so despite the accolades he has it's difficult to see any club offering anywhere near the value we rate him at. I wouldn't be trading him for a second round pick but it's difficult to see most clubs offering anything more than that.

I still believe if anything were to eventuate it would be with Brisbane. They're firmly in their Premiership window, have deliberately targeted Hawthorn IP in the past and are in a position where they can offer us decent currency (a late first round pick). Bruest has also obviously worked with Fagan before so he may not be inherently against the idea.

But I only mention this because it's a hypothetical thread. As far as I know Bruest wants to remain a Hawk and has knocked back lucrative offers in the past.

Gunston is one I wouldn't trade for anything. He's shown so much leadership this year that I think nothing comes close to the true value he holds for our club and our developing players.

 

[MrPremiership]

Where is this talk of our 2nd rounder for Jye Caldwell coming from?

 

[TylerDurden]

My biggest issue with the trading Bruest narrative is the difficulty in getting value for him. He's going to be 30 at the start of next year so despite the accolades he has it's difficult to see any club offering anywhere near the value we rate him at. I wouldn't be trading him for a second round pick but it's difficult to see most clubs offering anything more than that.

I still believe if anything were to eventuate it would be with Brisbane. They're firmly in their Premiership window, have deliberately targeted Hawthorn IP in the past and are in a position where they can offer us decent currency (a late first round pick). Bruest has also obviously worked with Fagan before so he may not be inherently against the idea.

But I only mention this because it's a hypothetical thread. As far as I know Bruest wants to remain a Hawk and has knocked back lucrative offers in the past.

Gunston is one I wouldn't trade for anything. He's shown so much leadership this year that I think nothing comes close to the true value he holds for our club and our developing players.

Agreed. Can only trade if they demand they want to leave. Which I doubt is the case.

 

[VandoHawk]

Where is this talk of our 2nd rounder for Jye Caldwell coming from?

Think it was mentioned on trade radio on the AFL site a while back. Cal Twomey said he would trade our second round pick for Jye Caldwell and it would be enough to get it done. But they also talked about how our most glaring need was a monster KPD so I'd take that with a grain of salt.

Would personally go hard at Perryman.

 

[Teamwork Talks]

Where is this talk of our 2nd rounder for Jye Caldwell coming from?

Suggested by Cal Thomey

 

[Breustiful]

Breust and a second round for Stephenson and an early third round.

We lasted 21 posts people! Not too bad!!