List Mgmt. 2020 List Management II

[Jimmae]

Interesting list of uncontracted Richmond players...

By the way Arr0w, Chol is signed until 2021:

Tiger ruck duo re-sign

Emerging talls, Ivan Soldo and Mabior Chol have re-committed to the Club for a further two years, to remain at Tigerland until 2021.

www.richmondfc.com.au

 

[Arr0w]

Interesting list of uncontracted Richmond players...

By the way Arr0w, Chol is signed until 2021:

Tiger ruck duo re-sign

Emerging talls, Ivan Soldo and Mabior Chol have re-committed to the Club for a further two years, to remain at Tigerland until 2021.

www.richmondfc.com.au

Shame, kid can football

I would still be putting an offer to his management

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Shame, kid can football

I would still be putting an offer to his management

What part of the word 'play' don't you like?

 

[TENACIOUS]

Wouldn't mind looking at Ben Ronke from Sydney.
Out of contract small forward, has pretty much same stats as Butler over their careers

Ben Ronke of the Sydney Swans Career AFL Stats

Ben Ronke of Sydney Swans career AFL statistics

www.footywire.com

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Wouldn't mind looking at Ben Ronke from Sydney.
Out of contract small forward, has pretty much same stats as Butler over their careers

Ben Ronke of the Sydney Swans Career AFL Stats

Ben Ronke of Sydney Swans career AFL statistics

www.footywire.com

Might strike a bum note around the place if we traded for him.

 

[mmhau]

I’m not a big fan on getting any players that may be able to slip into our best 22. Players like ronke, Lonie etc.

We have so much talent on our list. We really need more high end players with speed, kicking ability and pressure.

I feel Williams suits our side well just need another similar type player and young pressure forward.

 

[Milshouse]

It sounds like zac williams might be on a wing, so do we still need a running half back? im not so 100% sold on saad, is he an upgrade on williamson? Saad has speed but how is one on one defending?

 

[zeeCFC]

It sounds like zac williams might be on a wing, so do we still need a running half back? im not so 100% sold on saad, is he an upgrade on williamson? Saad has speed but how is one on one defending?

Very good defender actually. His run and defending are great, it's almost like his kicking is overrated. Can kick the occasional long goal though.

Not many sounding confident on acquiring him though so not getting my hopes up

 

[SurreyBlue]

It sounds like zac williams might be on a wing, so do we still need a running half back? im not so 100% sold on saad, is he an upgrade on williamson? Saad has speed but how is one on one defending?

Short answer no. If you look at our backline and include players such as Marchbank as 3rd tall and Newman who missed the complete year then add Williamson, Docherty, Plowman (lock down), then no. If you add the 7th defender from the wing in SPS or Williams or a youngster, then surely our focus should be in the pure A grade midfield!!!

 

[DirkDiggler]

Short answer no. If you look at our backline and include players such as Marchbank as 3rd tall and Newman who missed the complete year then add Williamson, Docherty, Plowman (lock down), then no. If you add the 7th defender from the wing in SPS or Williams or a youngster, then surely our focus should be in the pure A grade midfield!!!

We take too long to move the ball out of defence. We have no one in Assad’s class. We need to upgrade. Marchbank is an intercept tall a running back and Newman is slow. If Willo ends up on the wing our defence rebound will be even slower.

Adding strength to our midfield won’t address this.

 

[COBALT BLUE]

Wouldn't mind looking at Ben Ronke from Sydney.
Out of contract small forward, has pretty much same stats as Butler over their careers

Ben Ronke of the Sydney Swans Career AFL Stats

Ben Ronke of Sydney Swans career AFL statistics

www.footywire.com

Swans supporters rate him
Why would they move him on ?
Back injury July 2020
His stats have not improved....following swans trend I guess
Rookie get
Could pick him up and sort out his injury issues ....his stats mainly reflect his 2018 season...might have had a few injuries since

Season	GP	K	H	D	M	HO	FF	FA	T	G	B

2020 (Sydney)​	3​	6.3​	3.3​	9.7​	2.0​	0.0​	0.7​	1.0​	4.0​	0.0​	0.0​
2019 (Sydney)​	13​	6.6​	3.8​	10.4​	2.8​	0.0​	0.4​	0.3​	2.1​	0.7​	0.5​
2018 (Sydney)​	18​	8.3​	4.2​	12.6​	2.5​	0.0​	1.0​	1.1​	3.9​	1.3​	0.​

 

[SurreyBlue]

We take too long to move the ball out of defence. We have no one in Assad’s class. We need to upgrade. Marchbank is an intercept tall a running back and Newman is slow. If Willo ends up on the wing our defence rebound will be even slower.

Adding strength to our midfield won’t address this.

This is on the coaches and setups. Are you telling me that Docherty, Williamson, SPS and Simpson this year are terrible runners and users of the pill or that Saad is that much better?

 

[Stamos]

This is on the coaches and setups. Are you telling me that Docherty, Williamson, SPS and Simpson this year are terrible runners and users of the pill or that Saad is that much better?

Saad would bring genuine line-breaking ability, which we are lacking.
Willo would be our best, but the others don't really break the lines.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Saad would bring genuine line-breaking ability, which we are lacking.
Willo would be our best, but the others don't really break the lines.

IMO - I’d be using Cottrell back as well and we should have trialed that by now. I also regard Polson as another to keep developing but many here don’t, that’s fine as well. Time will reveal.
With our list, I don’t believe we need to waste time, picks on any more half back flankers, especially considering we now have Williams . A Grade midfielders .......

 

[Stamos]

IMO - I’d be using Cottrell back as well and we should have trialed that by now. I also regard Polson as another to keep developing but many here don’t, that’s fine as well. Time will reveal.
With our list, I don’t believe we need to waste time, picks on any more half back flankers, especially considering we now have Williams . A Grade midfielders .......

Well, it seems we want to play Williams as a mid. My preference would be for him to be at HBF.

I think we've got plenty of midfield talent, we just need some better coaching of them.

 

[BlueAbroad]

 

[SurreyBlue]

Well, it seems we want to play Williams as a mid. My preference would be for him to be at HBF.

I think we've got plenty of midfield talent, we just need some better coaching of them.

Just curious but who would you replace in this back 6?

Plowman(lock down small) Jones Marchbank
Docherty Weitering Williamson/Newman
SPS Cripps Williams (one winger to be defensive mid)

 

[Stamos]

Just curious but who would you replace in this back 6?

Plowman(lock down small) Jones Marchbank
Docherty Weitering Williamson/Newman
SPS Cripps Williams (one winger to be defensive mid)

Samo up the field.

Plow, Jones, Doc
Marchy, Weiters, Williams, Williamson

If we get Saad, then one of the Willos up the field.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Samo up the field.

Plow, Jones, Doc
Marchy, Weiters, Williams, Williamson

If we get Saad, then one of the Willos up the field.

So you agree with me. Williams the defensive winger and Samo on the other. See that was a goo discussion.

 

[Stamos]

So you agree with me. Williams the defensive winger and Samo on the other. See that was a goo discussion.

Samo isn't a wingman. I want him to be hff/mid, the player kicking inside 50.

Current wings Walsh (although we probably want him mid), LOB, Cottrell, Willo (back), Newnes (seems to have played better forward)

 

[HARKER]

I understand the appeal for Taranto, but what's happened to the highly-touted GWS mids? They can't kick goals.
I wanted Coniglio last year because I saw him as a genuine goal-kicking mid but -

Coniglio - 5/16, Hopper - 1/17, Caldwell - 1/9, Hately - 0/6, Green - 1/6, Ward 3/7, Kelly 5/14 so Total Midfield = 18 goals from 8 players over 75 games.
What a terrible outcome for this highly lauded midfield collective.

Our little Walsh kicked more than for any of these players named, with 8 goals. Cripps kicked 7 and 45 misses. What are they doing over there?

 

[Foucault1989]

Wouldn't mind looking at Ben Ronke from Sydney.
Out of contract small forward, has pretty much same stats as Butler over their careers

Ben Ronke of the Sydney Swans Career AFL Stats

Ben Ronke of Sydney Swans career AFL statistics

www.footywire.com

Firm no.

 

[Eiffel 65]

Nice work guys.

Really hoping we stabilise the list and only bring in Williams plus one more (maybe Simmo replacement).

Don't think we need to trade anything out to bring in more currency.

I agree with you that we might need to take a look at our tall forwards, but definitely not Harry. You'd be offloading one of McGovern or Casboult, albeit for minimum to no currency. More for the purpose of opening another list spot.

Casboult will be 31 next season so we can't rely on him. Form can fall away very quickly with aging players. As for McGovern, I don't think he's even played one good game for us in the two years he's been on the list. He shouldn't even be getting a game TBH.

I'm not convinced the 3 x talls works for us either, but if that's the case, offload the ones that aren't a part of our future. No need to potentially trade away another Josh Kennedy (WCE) to make something happen.

 

[DirkDiggler]

This is on the coaches and setups. Are you telling me that Docherty, Williamson, SPS and Simpson this year are terrible runners and users of the pill or that Saad is that much better?

Simmo was a poor decision maker by foot, so is Plow and Liam. Williamson has used his pace to break lines, SPS and Docherty haven't. We are a slow defensive unit. Saad is an elite defender as the stats suggest, top 10 in metres gained. There are other options which may be cheaper but lets not trash Saad's effectiveness because he plays for the scum. Dont want to see Williams played down back to fill a need Want him to be used as an offensive weapon in the midfield.

 

[slashin_velvet]

One flaw in the line of thinking here is that the AFL won't be flexible of drafting rules whilst also cutting list sizes.

Surely they'll say "we're cutting the list from 44 to 38, and also changing the rules around draft selections so teams must only make 1 draft selection"