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I'd be very keen to find a spot for that dude who can make all those different noises with his mouth. Would've also taken Bobcat Goldthwaite if he was still alive.

Do a great impersonation of razor ray, Dusty marks....."touched play on, play on",,,,,,boom zurhaar punishing tackle.
 

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Ah that makes sense. Ok sweet.
I was really hopefully of those Gold Coast pair instead of Stephenson. But I hope you're right.
I think we need some leadership though. Cunnington, Ziebell and Tarrant can't do it all. Even with the assistance of Polec and Hall
Polec is not a leader. Those three can do it easily. There is only 18 on the field at any point in time and 40 players in total at the club.

If those three were incapable, replace them as leaders then.

Set the standard, enforce the standard and demand excellence.
 
Dogs have told the Pies if you want us to take Treloar, pay 300k p/y for the rest of the contract. Lol.


That is good news for us.
 
Have we genuinely lost a trade yet with Luffy in charge since last year?

It feels we’ve come out on top in each instance.

Brown might be the only one, but it seems he will more making good of a bad situation.
 
Ah that makes sense. Ok sweet.
I was really hopefully of those Gold Coast pair instead of Stephenson. But I hope you're right.
I think we need some leadership though. Cunnington, Ziebell and Tarrant can't do it all. Even with the assistance of Polec and Hall

McDonald is entering his 8th season. Time for him to take over in a leadership role. Simpkin has played 70 plus games. Corr comes in as a 100 game player in his 8th season. They've got enough experience.
 
As I understand it, the BBB trade turns on the current Melbourne offer of 31 and 33. I think it's vital we get their 26, which gives options on both Stephenson and the Bulldogs pick 14. For the latter, we need to provide bonus points above the 1141 that #14 is worth.

31 and 33 together are only worth 1169, which won't be enough for the bulldogs. We could substitute our 28 and bump it up a bit, but it probably still wouldn't be enough.

I'm therefore thinking that for BBB we might settle for 26 and Melbourne's 43 - putting 26 and 30 (from Higgo) together would give the dogs 1358 points, meaning we effectively give them pick 11 for their pick 14

And we still keep pick 28 to weave into the Stephenson conversation (if that is in fact, real). Alternatively, we could put 26 and 28 together, giving the bulldogs 1406 points, a bit better than pick 10
 
They are panicking a bit on the pies board.
Dogs have told the Pies if you want us to take Treloar, pay 300k p/y for the rest of the contract. Lol.
Dogs aren’t using any lube with the pies. Apologies for the prior grotesque language, but the pies are not going to have a very nice day today.
 

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"Why would he want to go to North?", that's all I've been hearing this morning. F**king media.
Goddard was the worst. The centrepiece, no mate, that will be LDU thank you very much.
 
As I understand it, the BBB trade turns on the current Melbourne offer of 31 and 33. I think it's vital we get their 26, which gives options on both Stephenson and the Bulldogs pick 14. For the latter, we need to provide bonus points above the 1141 that #14 is worth.

31 and 33 together are only worth 1169, which won't be enough for the bulldogs. We could substitute our 28 and bump it up a bit, but it probably still wouldn't be enough.

I'm therefore thinking that for BBB we might settle for 26 and Melbourne's 43 - putting 26 and 30 (from Higgo) together would give the dogs 1358 points, meaning we effectively give them pick 11 for their pick 14

And we still keep pick 28 to weave into the Stephenson conversation (if that is in fact, real). Alternatively, we could put 26 and 28 together, giving the bulldogs 1406 points, a bit better than pick 10

With so many unknown quantities in this draft it wouldn’t surprise me if we preferred having an extra pick around 30 to packaging picks for 14 which is gonna drift to 18 or so anyway.
 
Dogs have told the Pies if you want us to take Treloar, pay 300k p/y for the rest of the contract. Lol.
Audio at 8m mark.

Dogs offer is 600k, Pies have to pay 150k in the first year, then 300k in the last 4.

 

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Have we genuinely lost a trade yet with Luffy in charge since last year?

It feels we’ve come out on top in each instance.

Brown might be the only one, but it seems he will more making good of a bad situation.
Not sure I agree on Higgins. Pick 30 is about right from a market value point of view given his age but the optics look terrible. Big Club goes to a department store and says we want that one and presto he's running around in their colours despite being contracted. Higgins is the most professional player we've had at the Club for years, has two really good years in him and is easily in our best 22. Given our leadership challenges and our stripped down list - you seriously can't buy what he brings. The response from players yesterday really said it all. Pick 30? Nah.
 
Laughable the amount of delusional nuffies on the Pies board.

Even if we don't trade in Stephenson the amount of angst this has caused over there is worth it.

And if we do end up getting him for a second or third rounder the melts will be delicious to say the least.

Almost better than watching them get beaten with the last kick in a GF.
 
Lloyd reckons Pies can't expect more than a second rounder for Stephenson when it is basically a salary dump.

I also heard Lloyd say this morning that we were ridiculous letting a 31 yr old Higgins leave.... he also sunk the knife in saying we don't win many games when he is there..... wanted to point out that higgo isn't 31 he would be 33 before the ssn starts!


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Not sure I agree on Higgins. Pick 30 is about right from a market value point of view given his age but the optics look terrible. Big Club goes to a department store and says we want that one and presto he's running around in their colours despite being contracted. Higgins is the most professional player we've had at the Club for years, has two really good years in him and is easily in our best 22. Given our leadership challenges and our stripped down list - you seriously can't buy what he brings. The response from players yesterday really said it all. Pick 30? Nah.

I think people have it absolutely backwards tbh.

I have a little bit to do with Higgo outside of footy as we live in the same suburb and his daughter is the same age as one of mine.

He has twins on the way and his move was as much about him wanting to move back to Geelong for stronger family support network than it was about Geelong sounding him out and shopping at the department store as you put it.

It was as much Higgo/his agent sounding out Geelong's interest mid year as it was Geelong targeting him. All of that aligns with North's decline on field and his twins diagnosis earlier in the year.

I think even if we made finals he would have requested a trade.

3 kids under 3 for a young mum with her husband flying all over the country for 6 months of the year isn't easy without a nearby family support network.
 
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