List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread III

[Tas]

His knee must be cactus. Otherwise we would have been better off swallowing our pride and keeping him so we're paying towards the cap, even if he's doing SFA.

I think the major problem was us playing him in the ruck when Goldy needed a rest, if he couldn't do that any longer we would need to bring in a second ruck, I think two 200+ cm guys in the forward 50 is too top heavy.

 

[Zondor]

So this Ben Brown

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Ben Brown

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

deal, this was the great draft return they so many argued was needed for the list?

Improving pick 28 to 26 and getting pick 33?

Wow.

Explain how we're better off this way than having re-negotiated to keep a quality player and loyal clubman for 3-4 years?

Bradys Rawling. There I said it. :stern look

 

[Le Grille]

Could get 39 back.

Don’t care second s plenty


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[giantroo]

More draft rule changes ...
By Peter Ryan

Although list sizes are being cut to a minimum of 37 as per Michael Gleeson's report this morning clubs have been told of two shifts in the rules relating to the draft being held in December.

The AFL have reduced the requirement that clubs take three selections at the draft to just one. Most clubs will make more than one pick but several clubs are considering adding one player from the total pool and then using the remaining points to put academy, father-son or NGA graduates on the list.

The second change is that clubs will be able to take selections into the national draft as if the primary list is still at 40. This is important as clubs have had to take as many picks into the draft as they had list spots available but the uncertainty around list sizes left them concerned about what they could do this season. Some clubs also wanted to potentially trade picks on the night so having an extra number would increase liquidity into the system.

Hawthorn have raised uncertainty around list spots on their Hawk Talk Podcast as one of the reasons they were finding it hard to seriously consider Tom Phillips

21

Tom Phillips

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

as football manager Graham Wright said they needed list spots to take in draft picks that would cover the points that might be required if they matched any bid for NGA prospect Connor Downie.

 

[roomagic1984]

This can't be right?
Disclaimer: Using future 4ths from this year: 63 was ours and 71 was Melbourne's



Surely there is more coming our way if we are giving up Brown, 28 and Future 4th.

 

[speedy]

Why the **** is geelong sending 2 first rounders to gws for Cameron when they could have had 2 gun kids and B.Brown for next to nothing?
Nothing makes sense anymore.

 

[Souup]

A straight Brown for a 2nd rounder should have been the deal unless we're trying to package some points together to try and claim another first rounder.

I know there's a bunch out there that think it's better to get something for him than nothing but I'd rather we send him to the PSD if we don't do something with these picks to improve our draft position.

 

[The Lone Latic]

Dismal return for Brown. Don't see how that was a mutually beneficial trade for the club. Very disappointed in how that one has shaken out. As soon as North put out that statement months ago, the footy world and their dead uncle knew down was out the door and we got low balled hard. Club blew their bargaining position which is what I said months ago.

Bag the pick, hopefully move it on as part of a package for something better but that preuss was worth more despite gws overpaying is a poor reflection of this deal in isolation. Up to Brady to turn this around into a positive because in isolation, this deal ain't it

 

[Le Grille]

To be reamed by Melbourne, Melbourne for **** sake


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[TruRoos7]

They’ll just be answering the soft questions?
Had our chance to make a statement and we didn’t.
Stevo deal will probably be our best 2nds and 3rds - then the pies will trade them for dogs pick 14

That would be classic North..

 

[kangatragic]

Now wait for us to get reamed by Collingwood with JS

 

[New_Roo]

Surely that's a typo ' North Melbourne will get Pick 28 and future fourth round '

Yes according to that we get 26 33 and 28 although we already have 28!


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[Joshen]

Brown worth less than Preuss.

 

[krakouers]

The Golden Shower.

R Kelly Likes this

 

[Pykie]

If that's the deal, we've traded him for significantly less than likes of Rory Lobbe, Jack Watts, Josh Bruce

17

Josh Bruce

Age

33

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

90.4

1star

D

8.9

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

90.4

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

and Matt Kennedy received when leaving in the last few years.

 

[Le Grille]

If that's the deal, we've traded him for significantly less than likes of Rory Lobbe, Jack Watts, Josh Bruce

17

Josh Bruce

Age

33

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

90.4

1star

D

8.9

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

90.4

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

and Matt Kennedy received when leaving in the last few years.

Can’t trust them to do Stephenson now in my opinion. We won’t benefit


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[speedy]

More draft rule changes ...
By Peter Ryan

Although list sizes are being cut to a minimum of 37 as per Michael Gleeson's report this morning clubs have been told of two shifts in the rules relating to the draft being held in December.

The AFL have reduced the requirement that clubs take three selections at the draft to just one. Most clubs will make more than one pick but several clubs are considering adding one player from the total pool and then using the remaining points to put academy, father-son or NGA graduates on the list.

The second change is that clubs will be able to take selections into the national draft as if the primary list is still at 40. This is important as clubs have had to take as many picks into the draft as they had list spots available but the uncertainty around list sizes left them concerned about what they could do this season. Some clubs also wanted to potentially trade picks on the night so having an extra number would increase liquidity into the system.

Hawthorn have raised uncertainty around list spots on their Hawk Talk Podcast as one of the reasons they were finding it hard to seriously consider Tom Phillips

21

Tom Phillips

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

as football manager Graham Wright said they needed list spots to take in draft picks that would cover the points that might be required if they matched any bid for NGA prospect Connor Downie.

Now they are making it easier for clubs with NGA's. It just keeps getting better.

 

[Only Forwards]

If that's the deal, we've traded him for significantly less than likes of Rory Lobbe, Jack Watts, Josh Bruce

17

Josh Bruce

Age

33

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

90.4

1star

D

8.9

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

90.4

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

and Matt Kennedy received when leaving in the last few years.

in a way more speculative draft

 

[kool kangas]

we are not getting 14 and Stephenson I wouldn't think

Agree . Its going to come down to 1 or the other.....They need to try and do the deal with the doggies first...

 

[Pykie]

Now they are making it easier for clubs with NGA's. It just keeps getting better.

It could benefit us getting a hold of the Dogs pick or say Collingwoods first pick.

4 picks vs Adelaides 2 picks doesn't matter anymore.

Just comes down to total points.

 

[Event Horizon]

Wait so two 2nds for Stephenson, no way!


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Possibly that means we get a future 1st back?

 

[Hazey1977]

And 100% edited.

GDay fella's,

Do you mind sharing your star signs with us?

Cheers,

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[Souup]

in a way more speculative draft

To be fair stocking up on 2nd rounders might not be the worst idea in the world in a draft where Victorian kids played no games.

There's likely to be more late 2nd/early 3rd round value than usual.

 

[New_Roo]

They’ll just be answering the soft questions?
Had our chance to make a statement and we didn’t.
Stevo deal will probably be our best 2nds and 3rds - then the pies will trade them for dogs pick 14

We never know if we don't ask.... they aren't t going to say ah too hard....next!


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[Grogg]

I don't really care how we slice it and dice it.

If the net result is 2, 11, 14 and Corr, Stephenson, Young (and change) then I will take that every day

If that's how it works out, then it's a thumbs up from me as well.

Big picture, etc.