List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread III

[New_Roo]

Back to trade.. is it this fri or next fri when ooc players have to be either signed up or delisted... I thought it was 28th but that gee article made it sound like this fri?


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[shinboner magic]

I think if Sydney get to use pick 3 - they’ll take DGB
They lack KPD

 

[krakouers]

Back to trade.. is it this fri or next fri when ooc players have to be either signed up or delisted... I thought it was 28th but that gee article made it sound like this fri?


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It was delayed due to still not having an agreement with the AFLPA, I think it’s next week

 

[Rad Roo]

No trade for pick 2, 3 cunningtons are not worth one dusty.....

 

[koshari]

How does someone speak like Joel Selwood?

Quack quack

 

[Rad Roo]

Suspect Collingwood will try and package 16 with their 2021 first to try and move up the draft, rather than trading it for lower picks.

If it's for pick 11, then sure. Wobblers are in for a fall in 2021 as they do a min reset

 

[R00StaR]

How does someone speak like Joel Selwood?

Must've ducked a lot of questions

 

[R00StaR]

turning one first rounder into 2 first rounders + some is a great deal. especially if we are only sliding 3 spots this year.

All the more reason to take the best possible talent. And what are the later picks really worth when we're already close to squeezing WW and EVW out

 

[see see]

"Liam"? "John Noble"?

With such disregard for the facts, she must be right in line for a gig as Chief Football Writer at a major daily newspaper.

 

[New_Roo]

Can we confirm that JDG has re-signed at the pies?


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[Hojuman]

Can we confirm that JDG has re-signed at the pies?


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Hope so. Home games Barwon prison only take a small crowd.

 

[New_Roo]

Hope so. Home games Barwon prison only take a small crowd.

Nothing like innocent until proven....


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[B4Bear]

Or, using the 2018 draft for the sake of argument, our complete lack of dilemma may be that we are confident Adelaide will take the Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

equivalent at pick 1 and we are equally comfortable taking either Lukosius, Rankine, King or Rozee with our pick.

In that (hypothetical) case, why would we use pick 2 to take our equal first choice when we can use pick 5 and get add-ons from GC?

I am all for going after the best midfielder.

I look at someone like Fyfe and think of how much he adds to Freemantle, they would be total dogshit without him.

We need that type of class, multiple times.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Heaps of fun]

Good for ham.

 

[Kangapirate]

Nothing like innocent until proven....


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The chances of him doing jail time are slim to none. The question is whether he is kept on a list with a conviction next to his name.

 

[Rooboy 96]

There are only two clubs to trade with here.

Gold Coast and Hawthorn.

And I'd only be listening for 2020 first and a 2021 first.

F*** the scum.

why not Sydney?

 

[big_e]

The chances of him doing jail time are slim to none. The question is whether he is kept on a list with a conviction next to his name.

We had Dumont and Daw while they were facing charges, and recruited Marley Williams

2

Marley Williams

Age

32

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.4

4star

MG

276.2

4star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

MG

195.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

after he was convicted.

Can't see him being delisted unless he's in jail, tbh.

 

[pitchster]

Mixed emotions with the 2 for 5 pick swap. (actually i started this post with mixed emotions, by the time i finished, I'm actually adamant about what ther club should do.)

For the second year in a row we are reducing our access to top end talent.

If we do this pick swap, and avoid bottom 3 next year, LDU is our great white hope for that absolute gun of the comp player. No knocks on the kid, but i'd feel much more comfortable having two other top 3 draft picks competing for the honours.

In fact, the more i think on this, the more i object.

1) We can access picks like 27 and 37 anytime, just get them out of your dreamy draft point eyes for a second, they are irrelevant when talking about elite traits and top players of the comp, which is EXACTLY what this club needs. #fu**thelaterpicks

2) We failed miserably at recruiting the top players through FA - hence, we must now draft them. This deal 'could' be like having Martin at the club with contract in hand, then saying, "oh wait, we have club x on the line (*), they are willing to offer us player Y and Z instead". Player Y & Z are both handy players don't get me wrong, but the sum impact is no Martin, Bont, Fyfe, Danger, Kelly etc . It's ******* ludicrous to think you'd do that if you had Martin on the hook, so why do it now with the possibility of drafting the next Martin.


We've copped sh*t draft picks as far as i can remember, i really hope they know what their doing cos i couldnt give a flying fu** if a deal is won or lost on points value, or late 2nd, early 3rd draft picks. Our dees pick this year is in no man's land, there is nothing to say GC's 2021 isn't around the 10 to 12 mark either before or after FA compo's come in, yes, there are a few on offer next year too.

It's the calibre of player we end up with that matters. The list has lacked that gun, star, hyped, match winner, as stated in the best 22 thread, we have a pretty even spread, we need that top tier to go to the next level.


In fact, at nearly every opportunity we have lost draft position to gain a late 20's early 30's pick. This slide may gain us a pick around 8 to 14. That's a nice pick, but is it worth watching on as the career's of the players taken before 5 go into overdrive?

Has there ever been as much talk about a club trading OUT of the top 3? Why is this? They wouldn't be saying it if the top 3 was Ess, Coll, Rich. We are seen as a club that can be fiddled with it seems.


Deal 1 (loss based on 1st round draft position). 2019 pick 8 out, 2019 pick 26 and 2020 pick 13-14 in.

Deal 2: (straight out loss based on draft postition) 2020 pick (24 to 27) for 2019 pick 30

Deal 3 . (Win based in draft position). 2019 pick 30 for 2020 28ish



I get that we needed a massive list turn over, and was justyfying the dees pick swap throughout the season as it gave us one extra pick regardless, but as time goes on and that deal plays out, plus thinking out about the way this GC one can play out, I'm saying take pick 2 to the draft and bring in BEST available, not NEXT BEST, which is exactly what this club has been for so long.





(*) Yes, Club X, cos they would be ******* us

Martin picked at 3
Bont picked at 4
Fyfe picked at 20
Danger picked at 10
Kelly picked at 2
Cripps picked at 13

This entire if we swap pick 2 for 5 we are crazy scenario has gotten ludicrous. Most experts have said the top 5 are all similar in potential its just what your club needs that dictates who you would pick. Pick 2, pick 5 either, both, neither could be a superstar player in the end.

 

[kool kangas]

What going on at North?????????? The Bulldogs Pick#14 is now the pies....

North Melbourne open to offers for pick 2

“It wouldn’t be beyond the realms (of possibility)."

www.sen.com.au

 

[king rising]

This club doesn’t help itself

 

[1975]

Nothing like innocent until proven....


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And! Your honour he plays for Collingwood!

Ok I’ve heard enough,
I find the defendant Guilty.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

What going on at North?????????? The Bulldogs Pick#14 is now the pies....

North Melbourne open to offers for pick 2

“It wouldn’t be beyond the realms (of possibility)."

www.sen.com.au

Well yeah, they traded it for Treloar.

 

[Benj7]

No trade for pick 2, 3 cunningtons are not worth one dusty.....

speak for yourself 3 cunningtons and we wouldn’t lose a centre clearance lmao

 

[Gumble Frankieton]

What going on at North?????????? The Bulldogs Pick#14 is now the pies....

North Melbourne open to offers for pick 2

“It wouldn’t be beyond the realms (of possibility)."

www.sen.com.au

Clayton said in the article:
“We are looking at all options and we have been from day one. We did attempt to look at that during this period and tried to get the Western Bulldogs’ first rounder and many things we planned and had a go at, some worked, some don’t.
“We have got an open mind and we’ll discount nothing.”

We obviously wanted to improve our draft hand and the Dogs wanted to get rid of pick 14 and build up points for JUH. Pretty normal draft/trade period stuff. Then came along Collingwood with their 'This Is Certainly Not A Fire Sale'...