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List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part I

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I think Daniher will get Esswdon band one and they'll take it.

Much better than trying to push for two late firsts in a compromised draft.

Don't discount the possibility that dodo matches the lions and holds daniher there against his will... just so he thinks he doesn't look like such a goose for knocking back pick 3 last year.

The guy is a buffoon
 
Just for fun we should target Parish, if we ended up with both Parish and and Gresham David King would have an aneurism

I can see it now:

"Midfielders are great but they are a dime a dozen Gerard.

St Kilda missing out on a key defender, like Francis, when they have Carlisle retiring, Howard not even played 100 games, Roberton will he play again? They are a very young backline, they could do with a wise head like Francis but they missed that chance when they traded back in the draft."
 
I haven't been sold on Carlton but they should be a good chance for top eight next year. It's a pretty solid looking team. Whether or not Williams can be the midfielder they want him to be will be important.

B Marchbank Jones Newman
HB Docherty Weitering Saad
C SPS Cripps Williamson
HF Martin McKay Gibbons
F Betts Curnow TDK
R Pittonet Williams Walsh
I Setterfield Murphy Curnow Newnes/Fisher

I agree that they are building a pretty solid team but the trouble I see is the money that they are spending. What made Geelong such a successful team for a long period was the division of salary cap between their top players. You offer Martin, Saad and Zac big money contracts with Cripps Doc and McGovern you would assume on big coin, Then consider if McKay,Walsh continue to get better and if Curnow reaches his potential they would expect offers it that range as well. They maybe digging a hole that will be hard to get out of in a few years. But if they can buy themselves a premiership I guess no one will care.

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I agree that they are building a pretty solid team but the trouble I see is the money that they are spending. What made Geelong such a successful team for a long period was the division of salary cap between their top players. You offer Martin, Saad and Zac big money contracts with Cripps Doc and McGovern you would assume on big coin, Then consider if McKay,Walsh continue to get better and if Curnow reaches his potential they would expect offers it that range as well. They maybe digging a hole that will be hard to get out of in a few years. But if they can buy themselves a premiership I guess no one will care.

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Yeah it'll be interesting to see how their player retention goes. You'd think they'll front load these contracts as much as possible to make sure it doesn't hamper them down the track. McGovern has been an absolute disaster. Looked bad at the time and has gotten even worse.
 
I love watching Carlton lose though. Never get sick of it. Docherty, Murphy, Jones, older Curnow and Betts getting pretty long in the tooth tho. Newman avg. Curnow struggles to get in the park consistently. If their older players can stay on the park and play well they should be good, but if not they have some big holes. Interesting to see how Williams goes in the midfield
Everyone loves watching the Scum lose :D

They're looking like GWS light to me now. A bunch of high draft picks and a handful of over paid mercenaries.
What's missing is culture, and I haven't seen anything what-so-ever to make me think they're going to, or even able to build one.

If I were a betting man, they'll have a few sniffs at finals, maybe even win a couple, then they'll flame out and Cripps will leave before he hits 30yo.


Whilst the club is still run and controlled by dyed in the wool a-hole elitists, they'll never allow a heart and soul culture to exist because they have no comprehension of what that is.

They'll always look for the easy way out because that's all they know, and those who talk of doing the hard yards and conducting themselves honorably will always be viewed as losers.

We'll get to watch them mill around the bottom of the 8 for a few years, p155 their draft picks away for more overpriced and over rated outsiders, then slowly ooze their way back to another wooden spoon.

Sit back and enjoy the years of entertainment.
 
Hipwood, McInerney, McStay already in the forward line... with Martin in the middle...

Fitting Daniher in is gonna make them awfully tall...
 
Essendon reminiscent of Melbourne under Bailey & Neeld. Mass exodus. Shocking culture. Lying, conspiring, underhanded cheats. They are imploding & I am loving it. Who is next to signal their intentions to depart on the Essendon October advent calendar? I’m going with Fantasia followed by neck beard.
 
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Hipwood, McInerney, McStay already in the forward line... with Martin in the middle...

Fitting Daniher in is gonna make them awfully tall...
Martin is pretty close to done. McInerney has been their main ruck for most of this year. I’d say that big O rucks, Daniher forward/ruck and the other two stay as permanent forwards.
 
Essendon reminiscent of Melbourne under Bailey & Neeld. Mass exodus. Shocking culture. Lying, conspiring, underhanded cheats. They are exploding & I am loving it. Who is next to signal their intentions to depart on the Essendon October advent calendar? I’m going with Fantasia followed by neck beard.
Who is neck beard? At first I thought it was saad but after this post not sure.
 

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Hilarious what is happening at Essendon. Expect Fantasia to walk as well, given the lack of exposure of draftees this year and the fact that the draft is heavily compromised with Academy kids it is not the year you want to be loading up on a rebuild.

Could not happen to a smugger club, love it.

I think Fantasia would be a decent upgrade on Kent.
 

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Martin is pretty close to done. McInerney has been their main ruck for most of this year. I’d say that big O rucks, Daniher forward/ruck and the other two stay as permanent forwards.
Martin is 34 next month and OOC. Not sure he’ll go around again
You ruck Daniher you’ll break him in half.

Ballenden possibly becomes the fwd/ruck, but then the issue is still the same. They’re crazy tall down forward.
 
You ruck Daniher you’ll break him in half.

Ballenden possibly becomes the fwd/ruck, but then the issue is still the same. They’re crazy tall down forward.
I’m sure they’ll work it out. Fagan knows what he’s doing. If it got too tall they could just drop McStay. He’s not so good that they have to find a way to play him.
 
I’m sure they’ll work it out. Fagan knows what he’s doing. If it got too tall they could just drop McStay. He’s not so good that they have to find a way to play him.
Maybe McStay goes into defence. He’s certainly played there before.
 
Maybe McStay goes into defence. He’s certainly played there before.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a better defender than forward. He’s plateaued as a forward. They’re pretty well stocked for KPDs too. Andrews and Gardiner make a good duo. Will be interesting to see what happens with Payne and Adams.
 
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