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List Mgmt. 2020 Young Talent time

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Who do you want with our first pick?

  • Heath Chapman

    Votes: 23 16.7%
  • Nik Cox

    Votes: 46 33.3%
  • Jack Carrol

    Votes: 10 7.2%
  • Archie Perkins

    Votes: 16 11.6%
  • Zach Reid

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Oliver Henry

    Votes: 12 8.7%
  • Nathan O'Driscoll

    Votes: 14 10.1%
  • Zane Trew

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 13 9.4%

  • Total voters
    138

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It’s funny that 7 don’t really talk much about NGA prospects for the slime until they are drafted. West Coast directive no doubt
They really don't have much too say, WC haven't put much effort into their academy it's the same with women's footy.
Freo have done well in promoting the game, grassroots, culture, etc, than West Corp.
We definitely have a WA flavour with JLo, Carr, and Bell. Hopefully we can get an advantage, do better with local talent.
Some compensation for the rules on father sons, but could be short lived if we unearth to many guns.
 
Zane Trew, Ty Seers, Denver Grainger-Barras among the Swan Districts youngsters to keep an eye on
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Jordan McArdleThe West Australian

All the draft talk out of WA has been on No.1 prospect Denver Grainger-Barras.
But Greg Harding reckons there’s at least another couple of Swan Districts youngsters worth a punt.
Harding couldn’t speak highly enough of hard-working midfielder Zane Trew, who he believes has the talent to be a first-rounder alongside his Swans teammate.
Intercept-marking defender Grainger-Barras’ stocks rose last year after a stunning national under-18s carnival followed by a senior WAFL berth, before a season-ending shoulder injury.
Trew sustained the exact same injury, only earlier in the season while playing for the Australian under-17s, meaning he had limited opportunities to show recruiters what he’s made of.
It came a week after he produced arguably the best performance of the WAFL colts season, a 40-disposal, 10-tackle effort against Perth.
Swans teammates and close friends Denver Granger-Barras and Zane Trew.

Swans talent manager and former league coach Harding rates the Trent Cotchin-like youngster’s work ethic, decision-making and skills as high as any who has come through the club’s production line.
“Zane’s colts form early on last year as a 17-year-old was incredibly strong until he sustained that shoulder injury,” Harding said.
“He had games around that 40-possession mark and some really mature midfield games as well where he was using his hands really well. He’s extremely talented and is as classy with ball in hand or foot as we’ve seen come through. He’s certainly got a skill set that we think will develop into an AFL player.
“He’s an incredibly professional young man so he’s done a hell of a lot of work on his body outside of just running around and kicking the footy.
“He’s incredibly dedicated and works really hard in the gym and loves his boxing and those sorts of things, so the physicality that we see in him now is due to the hard work he’s put into developing his body.
“It’s always hard to put a draft position on any kid but I certainly think both are going to go reasonably high, whether that’s first or early second round.”
Zane Trew in action for Australia under-17s against New Zealand at Marvel Stadium last year.

Harding isn’t expecting to see much of either of the pair at WAFL colts level when the season resumes, with senior coach Adam Pickering likely to give them plenty of games.
“Adam has got a great opinion of both kids,” he said. “I think the possibility was that if they maintained their form that we’d see very little of them at under-age level, apart from the national carnival.
“Both of them were coming off shoulder reconstructions so they had to tick some boxes off.
“But in terms of talent, there was no reason why they wouldn’t have played some significant senior footy early in the season.”
As for other Swans hopefuls, Harding liked the look of speedster Ty Seers whose 2019 campaign was hampered by a broken ankle.
“Ty Seers, who was involved in the state program last year as a 17-year-old last year, is an athletic, quick half-back/wing we think is going to develop into a really nice player,” Harding said.
Swans youngster Ty Seers.

Swans youngster Ty Seers. Credit: Supplied
“He’s got a lot of AFL traits in terms of speed and power so he’s certainly one we’d like to look at.
“And there’s other kids, even at senior level, that are going to be really difficult to line up, like Frank Anderson and Sam Fisher who have come across from Victoria.
“Sam’s already been on an AFL list (Sydney), but we expect both of those guys to have a really good WAFL season.
“Another young kid that most people wouldn’t know about, Tom Edwards who’s a young Albany kid, I think he’s got some real upside down the track.
“He’s a 20-year-old but he’s a late maturer, so when he develops physically in a year or two he’ll be a pretty good player.
“There’s a nice crop of kids coming through at Swans, we think we’ll have a reasonably strong period over the next couple of years.”
 

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After today’s news about Pearce and even with hamlings long term injury too, the chances of Freo targeting DGB in the national draft this year have significantly improved. Having two key defenders with injury clouds over them is too much of a risk in the long term.
 
After today’s news about Pearce and even with hamlings long term injury too, the chances of Freo targeting DGB in the national draft this year have significantly improved. Having two key defenders with injury clouds over them is too much of a risk in the long term.
agree.
There is also the long shot option of Tassie getting a team in the next 3-4 years and them targeting Alex as captain When he is peaking at 27yo ( injury aside)
 
After today’s news about Pearce and even with hamlings long term injury too, the chances of Freo targeting DGB in the national draft this year have significantly improved. Having two key defenders with injury clouds over them is too much of a risk in the long term.
Cox becomes crucial, and yes another Naughton type would be smart thinking.
 
After today’s news about Pearce and even with hamlings long term injury too, the chances of Freo targeting DGB in the national draft this year have significantly improved. Having two key defenders with injury clouds over them is too much of a risk in the long term.

Hamling has played 62 games in three seasons here, out of a possible 66. Let’s wait for him to get a second long term injury before he’s a “too much of a risk in the long term”.

Funny how Hamling is a long term risk because he’s injured right now but Logue who this time last year had barely played a game in 18 months isn’t mentioned by anyone.

I’m not against DGB if our recruiters think, at our first pick, he’ll add the most to our list but if he’s taken he’s a best available selection and not in any way a ‘needs’ pick.
 

Nice piece here on Nathan oDriscoll from the clubs website. Seems we are pretty interested in him if we are sharing this on the club site. Over on the mock drafts board, a few vic posters are saying he is seriously underrated..
 

Nice piece here on Nathan oDriscoll from the clubs website. Seems we are pretty interested in him if we are sharing this on the club site. Over on the mock drafts board, a few vic posters are saying he is seriously underrated..

Some vision of O’D floating around the ether, showing some awkward kicks off his right foot.

Then you look at his left foot kicking.. long and raking..

In the AFL Futures game he was more of an outside mid, using his long raking left foot kicks. Also seen some inside side of his game.. a bit to like.. need to see some more.

He is a different type of midfielder to Trew.

Need to watch a bit more I suspect.. McCrae looks ok as well for a Vic.

A few to choose from for mids, and a few interesting tall KPP in this draft.. looks more even across the top 15 until we see some more game time.
 


This is the highlight video the West uploaded for DGB. Looks to just be the u/18 Carnival Grand Final against Vic Country, but some nice intercept marks all the same.
 

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Great reading of the flight and marking is really important, I actually think it's something players either have or don't and there's nothing you can do about it, but being able to do it under body contact is a totally different proposition.

I was hoping to see him playing a more traditional tall back role this season, still floating off to mark but able to hold his ground in a marking contest.

I wouldn't want to highly invest in a tall that knows exactly where to be, gets there and is moved aside by an opponent in his own weight class.
 
We should potentially get 4 of those players on our list next year. Walker and western seem likely to attract bids between 30 and 50 or thereabouts. Won’t be issues matching them I’d imagine. Depending on how Melbourne perform, we should get a first round pick in the range of 8-10 (our own) plus Melbourne’s second rounder (could be around 24/25 but likely to slide to the 30s with academy bids. The points deficit from last year will be extremely annoying, and will mean that our hypothetical pick 6, for arguments sake, becomes pick 8 due to the deficit and then there will be 3 or 4 academy players selected before pick 8, pushing our first selection down to pick 12 or so potentially. How annoying!! We should get a look at one of Trew, DGB or NOD at our first, and possibly Logan mcd and definitely any of the others at our second. Would be a nice haul!
 

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Come on people. We all know we'll go Vic boys with our first and second, SA with our third, then WA with the leftover picks, then pay a premium to lure the WA boys home after they've gone on to become stars in Melbourne. WC will go WA first, then probably WA second, then fill their other spots with Vic boys. It's how it always goes.
 
Come on people. We all know we'll go Vic boys with our first and second, SA with our third, then WA with the leftover picks, then pay a premium to lure the WA boys home after they've gone on to become stars in Melbourne. WC will go WA first, then probably WA second, then fill their other spots with Vic boys. It's how it always goes.

TBF in the last few years have we grabbed a Vic where there was a better suited WA player?

We grabbed Logue in 2016, who was a WA boy.

We were looking for mids in the first round of 2017, and there wasn't a WA option in the top 5.

2018 I think Sturt over Hill was a very good choice, going by Sturt's first game.

2019 I think the only realistic argument is Robertson over Serong, but given how highly Serong was rated pre-draft he's effectively a steal at that pick, while Robertson would probably have been a reach.
 
Come on people. We all know we'll go Vic boys with our first and second, SA with our third, then WA with the leftover picks, then pay a premium to lure the WA boys home after they've gone on to become stars in Melbourne. WC will go WA first, then probably WA second, then fill their other spots with Vic boys. It's how it always goes.
Harsh. We selected Logue and Henry with top 10 picks in recent years and also took Pina and our NGA lads. West coast have taken plenty of Victorian’s with early picks too in recent years including the likes of venables, petrucelle and Xavier o Neill ahead of WA talent. The best player available should always be selected in rounds 1 and 2 of the draft and if they happens to be from WA then great. Strong chance that Nathan O’Driscoll in particular could end up a docker this year if he’s available at one of our picks and I’d be delighted to have him at the club.
Hopefully we will get a national U18 champs played and then we’ll have a better idea who the best players are as it’s really based on last years performances at the moment.
 
TBF in the last few years have we grabbed a Vic where there was a better suited WA player?

We grabbed Logue in 2016, who was a WA boy.

We were looking for mids in the first round of 2017, and there wasn't a WA option in the top 5.

2018 I think Sturt over Hill was a very good choice, going by Sturt's first game.

2019 I think the only realistic argument is Robertson over Serong, but given how highly Serong was rated pre-draft he's effectively a steal at that pick, while Robertson would probably have been a reach.
Yes I am good with Sturt and Serong as well, although still amazed at where Robertson ended up taken.
 
Come on people. We all know we'll go Vic boys with our first and second, SA with our third, then WA with the leftover picks, then pay a premium to lure the WA boys home after they've gone on to become stars in Melbourne. WC will go WA first, then probably WA second, then fill their other spots with Vic boys. It's how it always goes.
Since 2013 Sheed is a solid WA first rounder, they have also taken Barass, McGovern late. Added Allen, Ryan second rounders, pipped by Cats for Kelly.
Father son Waterman, traded for Yeo, so not many first rounders from here, but second round onwards they seem
to know the score.
 
Since 2013 Sheed is a solid WA first rounder, they have also taken Barass, McGovern late. Added Allen, Ryan second rounders, pipped by Cats for Kelly.
Father son Waterman, traded for Yeo, so not many first rounders from here, but second round onwards they seem
to know the score.
Yeo wanted to come to fremantle but we said no 🤦‍♂️
 

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