List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[GrommoT]

FYI, we have done this dance before havent we?


Four-way trade in the works involving Adel, Melb, STK, WB.

Will see Melb end up with the Dogs' pick 17. Dogs get more points to help match Sam Darcy. Adel get Melb's future 1st rounder. STK a stronger draft hand @7NewsMelbourne @7AFL

— Mitch Cleary (@cleary_mitch) October 6, 2021

Based on what happened last time, back-to-back flags for you guys is a shoo-in now ... very smart trading by your club.

 

[BRL121]

Well... that's back-to-back cups for the Dees now for sure

It may be Sydney doing the death-riding.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Also seems like we don't really rate the talent in the back end of the first round/start of the 2nd round.

We pretty keen to move on those picks.

Those backend picks served no purpose ...weren't going to use them

 

[70lethal]

Can the slack arse update the thread title

 

[skittlebrew]

Based on what happened last time, back-to-back flags for you guys is a shoo-in now ... very smart trading by your club.

I'm not saying we're the reason Dees won a flag... but I'm not not saying it either...

 

[huludicidal]

As much as some people won’t like to see it, the new offer to Sydney will likely be:

Dees 2022 first
Our 2022 second

for

Dawson
Pick 39 OR Swans 2022 2nd (depends on whether we have a list spot to use on 39 this year or whether we prefer to upgrade a rookie).

Bookmark it.

Swans would be mad not to accept, but who knows with these clowns. Fingers crossed for PSD here. Most neutrals agree that we’ve been very fair in our offers to this point.

 

[skittlebrew]

So it's either going to be PSD or Melbs Future first next year for Dawson.

I hope not I really like the idea of having 2x firsts next year.

I know we are deep into a rebuild but there is still plenty of youth that we already have that needs games and then add pick 4 to that.

 

[GrommoT]

I'm not saying we're the reason Dees won a flag... but I'm not not saying it either...

2016 Dees finish 11th - we had none of their picks
2017 Dees finish 9th - we had none of their picks
2018 Dees finish 4th - we had their 2018 r1 & r4 picks
2019 Dees finish 17th - we had none of their picks
2020 Dees finish 9th - we had none of their picks
2021 Dees finish 1st - we had their 2021 r2 pick

I think the evidence is pretty compelling, Your Honour.

 

[treeman]

As much as some people won’t like to see it, the new offer to Sydney will likely be:

Dees 2022 first
Our 2022 second

for

Dawson
Pick 39 OR Swans 2022 2nd (depends on whether we have a list spot to use on 39 this year or whether we prefer to upgrade a rookie).

Bookmark it.

Swans would be mad not to accept, but who knows with these clowns. Fingers crossed for PSD here. Most neutrals agree that we’ve been very fair in our offers to this point.

That's not the end of the world. So essentially Dawson for 2 picks in the 20s as we were never going to use the latter picks associated with the pick swap and You would expect our second rounder to be somewhere 20-25. Plus we get back Sydney's second round as a bonus.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Smart if we retain it, not so smart unless it's our final offer for Dawson.

i think it would be fine. The deal we got is probably better than the original deal for 17, so I’m happy with it.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Nor would Adelaide .....so you'd give up Thilthorpe and Pedlar for JHF ?

It's easy to playstation talk when they are simply numbers .....put a face to the number and you'll change your thoughts

Yeah I’d do McAsey and Gallucci for JHf. Where do I sign?

 

[weltschmerz]

For phantom draft reasons - who do people think you might get at pick 4? Right now I've got Erasmus at your pick, but do you think someone else would be more likely, as you know your list needs much better than I do?

 

[Sanders]

Do we even have 3 picks for the mandatory 3 picks we need to make?

4,33 and PSD?

or are we assuming that ultimately Sydney will send us a pick

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Do we even have 3 picks for the mandatory 3 picks we need to make?

4,33 and PSD?

or are we assuming that ultimately Sydney will send us a pick

two picks and Rookie upgrade count towards the 3 selections

 

[Mego Red]

Do we even have 3 picks for the mandatory 3 picks we need to make?

4,33 and PSD?

or are we assuming that ultimately Sydney will send us a pick

We have 75 this year as well, fwiw.

But you will always have as many picks as you have vacant list spots. They just get added at the end - which is probably around pick 55 in this draft.

 

[Sanders]

We have 75 this year as well, fwiw.

But you will always have as many picks as you have vacant list spots. They just get added at the end - which is probably around pick 55 in this draft.

not picks we’d be wanting or intending to use?

 

[pjcrows]

For phantom draft reasons - who do people think you might get at pick 4? Right now I've got Erasmus at your pick, but do you think someone else would be more likely, as you know your list needs much better than I do?

We'll take the best midfielder available.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We have 75 this year as well, fwiw.

But you will always have as many picks as you have vacant list spots. They just get added at the end - which is probably around pick 55 in this draft.

I doubt we intend to use pick 75, as otherwise we wouldn't have been so happy to trade out our 4 picks between 37 & 66.

Points towards us upgrading at least 1 rookie.

Also, I doubt we would be looking to use our new pick 33 for Dawson as we wouldn't wan be intending on our 2nd pick being 75.

Going to be fascinating to see how this all plays out.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[cmndstab]

Do we even have 3 picks for the mandatory 3 picks we need to make?

4,33 and PSD?

or are we assuming that ultimately Sydney will send us a pick

I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's actually possible to "run out" of picks, as such. You have as many picks as you need to fill up your list. The last ones would just come at the end of the the draft, after everyone else has already finished.

As others have noted, rookie upgrades count too. Surely Butts gets an upgrade this year.

 

[huludicidal]

For phantom draft reasons - who do people think you might get at pick 4? Right now I've got Erasmus at your pick, but do you think someone else would be more likely, as you know your list needs much better than I do?

Unsurprisingly, Callaghan (on the off chance that he slips through to us), would be the no-brainer choice.

In the very likely event that Callaghan is off the board by our pick, there’s at least 6 players in the mix for us realistically. They are Erasmus, Hobbs, Goater, Rachele, Sinn and Ward. If you polled the Adelaide BF board, I think most would want one of the first 3, with Erasmus and Goater considered the biggest “needs”, and Hobbs considered the safest bet to be a star (high floor). So as per most first rounds ever, we likely won’t draft any of those 3 lol. Bet your house that we won’t be drafting Andrew or Gibcus though if we remain at pick 4. I suppose Sonsie is not completely out of the equation.

I know it’s not what you’re asking, but if I’m in charge I’m keeping the pick trading frenzy going and hitting up Richmond to trade 4 in a deal for 7 and 15, and then drafting Erasmus or Goater at 7 (maybe the decision is made for us, maybe it’s not, but I feel at least one would be there), and Rachele at 15 (and if he’s gone by then, any of Wanganeen-Milera, Draper or Johnson will do), but look, that’s probably a pipe dream.

 

[crows dude]

I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's actually possible to "run out" of picks, as such. You have as many picks as you need to fill up your list. The last ones would just come at the end of the the draft, after everyone else has already finished.

As others have noted, rookie upgrades count too. Surely Butts gets an upgrade this year.

Yep Butts and Keays to be upgraded. Then two extra rookie spots.

 

[Sanders]

I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's actually possible to "run out" of picks, as such. You have as many picks as you need to fill up your list. The last ones would just come at the end of the the draft, after everyone else has already finished.

As others have noted, rookie upgrades count too. Surely Butts gets an upgrade this year.

sorry, I know that. I meant in a practical way, we’re not going to use 75 or 80

we seem very short on picks in a useable range.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Well... that's back-to-back cups for the Dees now for sure

Meh… we arent competing for the flag next year so who cares as long as it isn’t those smarmy little flogs down the road that win it..

So… go the faaarking dees!!!.. they win it agaim and thats yet another year powa and hinkley (in their supposed “window”) dont.