List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

Giant Strides · Sep 30, 2021

Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker

FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)

captainMyCaptain · Oct 6, 2021

Orange crush said:
I’m really warming to Mac .... especially if it gets us another solid pick (preferably) next year. The guy’s potential looks amazing

I'm 100% for Mac if we bring in an additional 1st rounder in a trade but only about 70% if we use pick 2 on him.

Colonial · Oct 6, 2021

Giant Strides · Oct 6, 2021

General Giant said:

Reckon it will be only a future third round pick. Would like earlier, but we don;t have any leverage here.

PaythePerryman · Oct 6, 2021

captainMyCaptain said:
I'm 100% for Mac if we bring in an additional 1st rounder in a trade but only about 70% if we use pick 2 on him.

Yep, if we aren't getting MAC and a good first rounder for pick 2 I'd just take Callaghan and be done with it.
MAC looks great though. Exciting, once he puts on some size he'll be tough to deal with as a ruck/Forward

Hendo_21 · Oct 6, 2021

Seems like a future third is likely for Finlayson, it's probably more valuable to get him off the books but getting anything back is just a bonus imo.

Colonial · Oct 6, 2021

Colonial · Oct 6, 2021

Giant Strides said:
Reckon it will be only a future third round pick. Would like earlier, but we don;t have any leverage here.

Pres · Oct 6, 2021

Good to see the Dorsal repaying the club by shooting through after they acquiesced to his wishes to sit out the last 6 weeks of the season.

Hendo_21 · Oct 6, 2021

Disappointing that Finlayson's GWS career is going to end like this after how promising it was looking during 2019. Talent is clearly there but his inconsistency made it difficult to give him regular games. Going to need Riccardi to take a step forward next year because he's going to be asked to play regular games with Hogan likely to miss time at some point during the season with rest or injury.

Colonial · Oct 6, 2021

Colonial · Oct 6, 2021

Orange crush · Oct 6, 2021

Dollars off the books and he gets the family support he needs .... a fair outcome but a 2nd would have been nice

captainMyCaptain · Oct 6, 2021

Orange crush said:
Dollars off the books and he gets the family support he needs .... a fair outcome but a 2nd would have been nice

Won't be surprised if we needed his money off the books so we could add the needed KPD depth

Orange crush · Oct 6, 2021

captainMyCaptain said:
Won't be surprised if we needed his money off the books so we could add the needed KPD depth

Or just to allow salary upgrades going forward next year .... a lot of contracts to be renewed

dlanod · Oct 6, 2021

Orange crush said:
Dollars off the books and he gets the family support he needs .... a fair outcome but a 2nd would have been nice

If he wasn't on our list, I would've been upset if we'd traded a 2nd for a player like Jeremy. He's still coasting on potential how many years in now?

Hendo_21 · Oct 6, 2021

Finlayson leaving gives us an extra list spot doesn't it, could mean they grab an extra player in the draft?

Callums_Guns · Oct 6, 2021

Happy we have moved him on, I mean worked with him to be closer to family support

Hope it all works out for him

Hopefully the spare $$$ from that can go to retaining both Flynn and Briggs

Andre the Giant · Oct 6, 2021

Finlayson is a very talented player but he does lack the key requirement of any elite player which is unconditional effort.

I still clearly remember several times when he was having a dirty day when he turned his back on the play and dropped his head.

He will continue to do mercurial things and will also continue to drop his effort, it’s what he is and what he will always be.

This makes him surplus to requirements and a Port Adelaide player today.

Maximus 2011 · Oct 6, 2021

I’ll be surprised if he plays more than 10 games in 2022. Good result for the Giants.

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Giant Strides · Oct 6, 2021

Hendo_21 said:
Finlayson leaving gives us an extra list spot doesn't it, could mean they grab an extra player in the draft?

Yes. 33 now on the main list; so minimum 3, maximum 5 spots to fill. Total list (ML + Rookie A) assuming Lloyd retained & Mummy retires is 33 + 4 = 37, so also 5 spots. Ergo, we can take 5 spots to the draft: currently #2, #13, #52, #71 & #89.

We can pick up 3 at the national draft, and leave 2 spots vacant; fill one or both in the rookie draft or PSD; or bring in a DFA. With an academy kid such as Patrick Voss, we can match any bids in the 50s onwards for minimal to no cost from next year's draft haul, or if not bid on, automatically put on the rookie A list (normally would be cat B rookie, but that's full I believe [if international cat B is the same category as standard cat B]).

If we split pick #2, that could allow 3 picks this year plus matching a bid on Fahey.

We have a fair number of options now.

Giant Strides · Oct 6, 2021

That's it. Farewell Jeremy. Giants are now T0J (the zero Jeremys).

Traded - #31 (prev #47) Jeremy Finlayson (Pick 85, 2014 National Draft)

Jeremy Finlayson Height: 195cm Weight: 82kg D/O/B: 2/9/1996 Position: KPP New GIANT Jeremy Finlayson says he already feels at home at the club after being involved with the PM Capital GIANTS Academy program. The 18-year old grew up in Culcairn in the Riverina and came through the PM Capital...

www.bigfooty.com

Hendo_21 · Oct 6, 2021

Giant Strides said:
Yes. 33 now on the main list; so minimum 3, maximum 5 spots to fill. Total list (ML + Rookie A) assuming Lloyd retained & Mummy retires is 33 + 4 = 37, so also 5 spots. Ergo, we can take 5 spots to the draft: currently #2, #13, #52, #71 & #89.

We can pick up 3 at the national draft, and leave 2 spots vacant; fill one or both in the rookie draft or PSD; or bring in a DFA. With an academy kid such as Patrick Voss, we can match any bids in the 50s onwards for minimal to no cost from next year's draft haul, or if not bid on, automatically put on the rookie A list (normally would be cat B rookie, but that's full I believe [if international cat B is the same category as standard cat B]).

If we split pick #2, that could allow 3 picks this year plus matching a bid on Fahey.

We have a fair number of options now.

Yeah, we really got plenty of flexibility coming into the draft. They could stay put at #2 and still have a really good draft hand, from all reports they're quite open to trading down the order and grabbing even more picks plus it's good to have a few list spots free to take advantage of anything that may come up.

Ichabod Noodle · Oct 6, 2021

Pres said:
Good to see the Dorsal repaying the club by shooting through after they acquiesced to his wishes to sit out the last 6 weeks of the season.

that, I think, is a rubbish take on the matter.

Colonial · Oct 6, 2021

Colonial · Oct 6, 2021

so Flynn or Riccardi? Or both?

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