List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

Giant Strides · Sep 30, 2021

Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker

FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)

Giant Pete · Apr 28, 2021

GWS Goose said:
Hopefully the magpies run last and we can just take Horne.

Horne with pick 1 and use some other picks to get Fahey at 3.

GWS Goose · Apr 28, 2021

Giant Pete said:
Horne with pick 1 and use some other picks to get Fahey at 3.

Hopefully Fahey is a shock slider and comes after our first rounder, all the Vic teams complain we got away with murder and the academy is unfair.

Giant Strides · Apr 28, 2021

Giant Pete said:
Horne with pick 1 and use some other picks to get Fahey at 3.

GWS Goose said:
Hopefully Fahey is a shock slider and comes after our first rounder, all the Vic teams complain we got away with murder and the academy is unfair.

I don't see that Fahey will go anywhere near pick 3, or even in the top 10, unless he shows more than he has to date. Of course, we have to see what happens during the rest of the season.

GWS Goose · Apr 28, 2021

Giant Strides said:
I don't see that Fahey will go anywhere near pick 3, or even in the top 10, unless he shows more than he has to date. Of course, we have to see what happens during the rest of the season.

Hopefully just after our pick 2nd pick which will be 18

THE_GUN · Apr 29, 2021

GWS Goose said:
Hopefully just after our pick 2nd pick which will be 18

Why would you be thinking the giants will lose the GF

Andre the Giant · Apr 29, 2021

PMBangers said:
Well Phil put it best on his podcast that come out Monday, you can't play 4 key forwards and Harry isn't coming out, so Ricca or Dorsal come out to accommodate Jesse, it's a very weird problem to have.

Pace and class through the midfield is something I've been begging for, for at least 3 years now. Plenty of those sorts up the top end thankfully, I worry we might pick one that lacks defensive accountability though

I like Jason Horne and currently with picks 2 and 5 we should be able to get him.

PMBangers · Apr 29, 2021

Andre the Giant said:
I like Jason Horne and currently with picks 2 and 5 we should be able to get him.

If we end up with Pick 2 and 5, which I'd hope that 5 stretches out to a teens pick, I'd rather hold and hit two top 5-10 talents rather than put all the eggs in the Horne basket. I also want to wait until the champs before putting my neck on the line with a 'Horne is five steps ahead of everyone not named Daicos' call

fridgeman · May 1, 2021

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...josh-fahey-cannon-20-impresses-vfl-opposition

Insight into Fahey and sounds like a rebounding defender so hopefully he can add muscles and a contested side to his game and we should see him in some reserves games hopefully

Andre the Giant · May 1, 2021

PMBangers said:
If we end up with Pick 2 and 5, which I'd hope that 5 stretches out to a teens pick, I'd rather hold and hit two top 5-10 talents rather than put all the eggs in the Horne basket. I also want to wait until the champs before putting my neck on the line with a 'Horne is five steps ahead of everyone not named Daicos' call

He has a lot of class and breakaway speed. Exactly what we need. The SA Recruiters are really big on him. Good character too.

Colonial · May 4, 2021

Gigantic · May 4, 2021

Who could it possibly be? Josh Kelly?

PMBangers · May 4, 2021

Gigantic said:
Who could it possibly be? Josh Kelly?

You'd assume so for them to do a build up video

Callums_Guns · May 4, 2021

Gigantic said:
Who could it possibly be? Josh Kelly?

Sproule or Buntine

Colonial · May 4, 2021

Well let’s look at who isn’t contracted.

Kelly and Hopper are the big 2, maybe Hogan, Daniels or Davis?

The others wouldn’t get a lead up for a re-signing.

PMBangers · May 4, 2021

Lore said:
2026 contract gotta be him surely.

Lore certainly has better eyes than us, but wasn't his trigger 6 years? So maybe it's a Hopper 5 year? idk

Lore · May 4, 2021

PMBangers said:
Lore certainly has better eyes than us, but wasn't his trigger 6 years? So maybe it's a Hopper 5 year? idk

Callums_Guns · May 4, 2021

Cogs is taking the sole captaincy section out of his contract and resigning it as a co-Captain with Toby at a reduced rate

That’s leadership I tell you, fantastic work cogs

sydney_gws · May 4, 2021

Giant Strides said:
I don't see that Fahey will go anywhere near pick 3, or even in the top 10, unless he shows more than he has to date. Of course, we have to see what happens during the rest of the season.

Where is he playing this year. I know he played in the game vs geelong reserves, but that was a one-off game

PMBangers · May 4, 2021

Callums_Guns said:
Cogs is taking the sole captaincy section out of his contract and resigning it as a co-Captain with Toby at a reduced rate

That’s leadership I tell you, fantastic work cogs

The dream

I figure it's Hopper, Kelly's extension was for 8 years iirc

PMBangers · May 4, 2021

sydney_gws said:
Where is he playing this year. I know he played in the game vs geelong reserves, but that was a one-off game

GWS Academy when they join NAB League for a small bit of the season, then our reserves for the rest of it

Gigantic · May 4, 2021

Renegotiated contract terms to reduce it down to 5 years perhaps?

Andre the Giant · May 4, 2021

PMBangers said:
Lore certainly has better eyes than us, but wasn't his trigger 6 years? So maybe it's a Hopper 5 year? idk

Maybe it’s been re-worked,different terms and conditions by agreement? It includes 2021 so it’s a renegotiated deal.

Colonial · May 4, 2021

Hopper or Hogan is my guess, Daniels at a stretch.
I don’t see why would Kelly renegotiate a longer contract to make it shorter and it’s too long for Davis.

Callums_Guns · May 4, 2021

Colonial · May 4, 2021

Callums_Guns said:
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