List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

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Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final

Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker



FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):

GWS List Summary

Senior List


33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)
 
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Early best 22:
Haynes Stein Idun
Cumming Taylor Ash
Kelly Ward Whitfield
Greene HH Lloyd
Daniels Hogan Hill
Preuss Hopper Taranto

Coniglio Briggs OHalloran Perryman

Close: Bruhn, Peatling, DeBoer, Stone, Sproule, Keeffe, Angwin, Flynn.

We are building genuine depth that is more mature. Not just 18 year olds.
No Davis or Tom Green. Buckley available from mid year or better as well
 
Early best 22:
Haynes Stein Idun
Cumming Taylor Ash
Kelly Ward Whitfield
Greene HH Lloyd
Daniels Hogan Hill
Preuss Hopper Taranto

Coniglio Briggs OHalloran Perryman

Close: Bruhn, Peatling, DeBoer, Stone, Sproule, Keeffe, Angwin, Flynn.

We are building genuine depth that is more mature. Not just 18 year olds.
Surely Flynn gets first crack at 1st ruck ahead of Braydon Preuss?

Even considering the latter's electrifying 9 games to date over his career.
 

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Hawthorn wants to trade 5, 2022r1 for our2,13 this year. Does anybody see merit in that?
I would say the only bonus would our existing players might be happy that their are less first round picks wanting game time next year?
Hawthornes 2022r1 may well provide the best kpf option next year.

No thanks. But I'm up for trading pick 2, more like down to 6-8 region and a future pick. The best available options at 2 may turn out to be superstars but I have concerns about retaining them long term.
 
I agree with most of it, would likely swap Preuss and Flynn, no Tom Green is odd, I'd drop Hill to be able to squeeze Green in he's too good to leave out. Also if Keefe is healthy and looks anything like he did this year he plays over Stein.
Forgot about him! Lol
 
So who would you be looking to select at that 6-8 region?

I have no idea about many of the players in the draft, haven't watched any videos or anything, but given the extra time to develop them I'd like a KPP. The concern with taking a very highly rated mid like Horne or Callaghan is how prepared are they to wait to get a game.
 
I have no idea about many of the players in the draft, haven't watched any videos or anything, but given the extra time to develop them I'd like a KPP. The concern with taking a very highly rated mid like Horne or Callaghan is how prepared are they to wait to get a game.
Think Callaghan could play pretty early on as an outside mid/wing, I'm not too sure about Hornes flexibility into other positions but he could probably start of as a half forward he's known for really good tackling ability so he would help out our i50 pressure which we lack at times while being really effective around stoppages i50
 
I have no idea about many of the players in the draft, haven't watched any videos or anything, but given the extra time to develop them I'd like a KPP. The concern with taking a very highly rated mid like Horne or Callaghan is how prepared are they to wait to get a game.
Honestly, looking at the Best 22 from Giant Pete

Haynes Stein Idun
Cumming Taylor Ash
Kelly Ward Whitfield
Greene HH Lloyd
Daniels Hogan Hill
Preuss Hopper Taranto

Coniglio Briggs OHalloran Perryman

Of those guys, Horne and Callaghan are comfortably getting in ahead of Lloyd and O'Halloran
 
Honestly, looking at the Best 22 from Giant Pete

Haynes Stein Idun
Cumming Taylor Ash
Kelly Ward Whitfield
Greene HH Lloyd
Daniels Hogan Hill
Preuss Hopper Taranto

Coniglio Briggs OHalloran Perryman

Of those guys, Horne and Callaghan are comfortably getting in ahead of Lloyd and O'Halloran
Think we can sometimes get caught up in Llyods really good moments, but too often he goes missing and is not influential and doesn't apply much appresure as a defensive player. Really liked what I saw from XO in his last couple weeks of the season but even still I think with Callaghans damaging kicking and strong movement skills he probably gets the nod over him.
 
Honestly, looking at the Best 22 from Giant Pete

Haynes Stein Idun
Cumming Taylor Ash
Kelly Ward Whitfield
Greene HH Lloyd
Daniels Hogan Hill
Preuss Hopper Taranto

Coniglio Briggs OHalloran Perryman

Of those guys, Horne and Callaghan are comfortably getting in ahead of Lloyd and O'Halloran

Bruhn and Green are also missing. If we are 100% on Fahey then long term Ash continues to move to permanent mid role.
 
Think we can sometimes get caught up in Llyods really good moments, but too often he goes missing and is influential and doesn't apply much appresure as a defensive player. Really liked what I saw from XO in his last couple weeks of the season but even still I think with Callaghans damaging kicking and strong movement skills he probably gets the nod over him.
Callaghan being able to genuinely impact as a winger and half back flanker as well as rover helps, XOH is a good plug n play guy with his defensice traits and hardness but not damaging outside of stoppages. I agree on Lloyd, he's great for a goal a game but I can't confidently say he does anything else better than I think JHF or Callaghan could
 

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Bruhn and Green are also missing. If we are 100% on Fahey then long term Ash continues to move to permanent mid role.
Theres room for Fahey and Ash if we dont go as tall in defence which I think is the way forward as less teams persist with non-athletic KPFs, but Green in there is a definite tick and Bruhn probably ahead of any draftee as well (pre season pending). Greene being out for 2 games next year helps get some exposure to the kids early, after that we should know whether they knock out someone else
 
Callaghan being able to genuinely impact as a winger and half back flanker as well as rover helps, XOH is a good plug n play guy with his defensice traits and hardness but not damaging outside of stoppages. I agree on Lloyd, he's great for a goal a game but I can't confidently say he does anything else better than I think JHF or Callaghan could
Outside of Whitfield and when Ash and Perryman are playing half back we really lack some juice on the outside for all of our inside mids to get it to and kick start our transition. Kelly used to be really good in this role but now that he's transitioned into a much heavier on ball role we lack a great user and damaging player next to whitfield outside.
 
a) we don’t have either of those players yet
b) no draftee is walk up best 22 - particularly with so little junior football in the last 2 years.
Those comments were in reference to others worried about picking players who wouldn't be top 22 and hence leave.
 
Honestly, looking at the Best 22 from Giant Pete

Haynes Stein Idun
Cumming Taylor Ash
Kelly Ward Whitfield
Greene HH Lloyd
Daniels Hogan Hill
Preuss Hopper Taranto

Coniglio Briggs OHalloran Perryman

Of those guys, Horne and Callaghan are comfortably getting in ahead of Lloyd and O'Halloran
I’ve since put Greene in (forgot) and Bruhn could easily be there after another preseason.
I’m not as certain as others that Callaghan would start Rd 1. If he did he’d be on a wing… and I’m not sure of his running power.
 
Im not sure why people are worried about fitting players into our 22... just wait patiently till Christmas when the injuries start piling up in pre-season and there will be plenty of opportunities.

Thats one thing we can hang our hat on... our strength and conditioning team really make a habit of ensuring we play a lot of younger or fringe 22 players each year..... what a bonus!
 
Im not sure why people are worried about fitting players into our 22... just wait patiently till Christmas when the injuries start piling up in pre-season and there will be plenty of opportunities.

Thats one thing we can hang our hat on... our strength and conditioning team really make a habit of ensuring we play a lot of younger or fringe 22 players each year..... what a bonus!
Exactly… I look forward to the day when good players are playing in the reggies.
 
With luke Parker resigning with swans, I guess other clubs might push harder for green and hopper.
Does anybody think We should let one leave ( cogs, hopper, green), it is hard to see how we keep all those players who prefer midfield only happy.
 
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