List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[Shinboner1]

He'd be available as a DFA.

With how tight list spots are I can't see us going out of our way to bring in depth until after the draft once we know whether we have any outstanding needs. A developing KPD via the draft is preferable to a stopgap.

I didn't know a 24yr old key defender was a stopgap?
Sounds like someone whos entering their prime to me.
Its not like he's 30 or something.

 

[7577969923]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

How did Richmond end up with 7 picks in the top 50?

 

[giantroo]

Let's go after the Dogs pick 17. fu** you Ninthmond!

20+40 for 17 + future 2nd pick?

 

[Tas]

How did Richmond end up with 7 picks in the top 50?

They traded for future picks last year.

 

[the flying ham]

I'm less inclined to rely on the "he's young" excuse for Mahony. When I watch him I see a clever, creative footballer who's useful and getting games on his merits right now. Good part is yes, he should also continue to get better over the coming couple of years. McPherson's 2019 was as a mid, and as a forward he's not obviously better by the stats than Jack.

I do have hope that DM will also be a useful addition to the list, and more competition for spots is never a bad thing.

He played forward 2019 and he was rated elite for tackles inside 50 in that time. As for getting games on merit, yes he is. We have finished 17th and 18th the last two years, there is no competition in a pressure forward role, merit for games won isnt something to hang a hat on. We need depth and pressure, dm provides it. I fail to see why this is such a hot issue on here. I like Jack. I like Darcy. Lets move on

 

[Del191229]

Might go and check the Richmond board.

Given most Tigers fans are on their second flagon of the day by now, should be fun reading.

 

[giantroo]

Sammy Edmund saying the GC pick 19 deal with North more likely than unlikely.

 

[The Anvil]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

When you have a bunch of people to get around to over the course of a week and a bit, don't waste your time with clowns.

Drop an email with FA for Tarrant and PSD for CCJ and get on with other negotiations with normal people.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Gasometer]

It needs to be reduced to a week max. Everything AFL is dragged out these days, just look at the recent National drafts. Over 2 nights and 200 hours.


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[Tas]

I'd give Sinner a go, he wasn't that flash in the PF, but you never know, could work out.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Hmmm not heaps on offer in regards to uncontracted key defenders

 

[Kangaroo Cat]

We are putting ccj in the exact same tier as chol and hewett (i dont know if thats the correct spelling) who have had more exposed form and are still entering their prime years. How is this unreasonable for a kid with less game time than our own 19 year olds and who has already been told he won't be best 22 for 2 plus years at his original club?

 

[The Anvil]

I suspect ole Sammy made this up, Luff specifically said on the weekend that they won't chase a 28 yo type, we have enough with "new recruit" Corr, and we'll build through the draft.

 

[the flying ham]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

A bit of early posturing. Par for course

 

[Shinboner1]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

Must be copping backlash from their fans and corporates for letting the wooden spooners steal one of their players

 

[Tas]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

If the shoe was on the other foot, it would suck arse. Having to trade with the wooden spooner would be the worst. However, you would want to cut your losses and get whatever you could, playing hardball is likely going to result in him going into the PSD and them having to take Tarrant as a free agent which will likely push back their Chol compo to a third rounder.

 

[Shermanator]

Take 19 & McPherson off them for a future 3rd.

Then give them 19 back with our 2022 1st for Lukosius..

 

[hilly]

Hmmm not heaps on offer in regards to uncontracted key defenders

Could attempt a trade for a contracted one.

 

[the flying ham]

Who are they referring to here

 

[hilly]

Take 19 & McPherson off them for a future 3rd.

Then give them 19 back with our 2022 1st for Lukosius..

Can't send it back directly.

 

[Tas]

I suspect ole Sammy made this up, Luff specifically said on the weekend that they won't chase a 28 yo type, we have enough with "new recruit" Corr, and we'll build through the draft.

Did he say we were looking for a 28 year old type?

 

[the flying ham]

Did he say we were looking for a 28 year old type?

I think he said they didnt want a 28 year old stop gap

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Who are they referring to here

Probably draft. Nothing really available via trading/AFL list atm.

 

[hsquid]

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones...

I hope we counter with a threat to retain Shai Bolton. If needed, we escalate with a threat to retain Matthew Richardson circa 2000. Keep Jack Dyer up our sleeve for now.