List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Bill Mohr]

I don't know where they are going to play Geary next year, I thought that he might hang up the boots?

Cant see him getting a game

 

[Mowman]

If I was Battle I’d be hightailing it out of the club if I’m reading that. Actually it
also makes me wonder why Ratts is so stubborn about it.

Its a worry if Ratts still cant see Battle is not a wing

 

[triggering bro]

Cant see him getting a game

With the squeeze on the soft cap I reckon he’s kept his list spot as a coach/player.

 

[Bill Mohr]

With the squeeze on the soft cap I reckon he’s kept his list spot as a coach/player.

Just cant see him playing in the backline, he would be 10th in waiting- forward line-NO . There are no spots for him. I cant understand why he has been signed up for a year, not even as depth.

 

[Joffaboy]

Yeah easy said now.

Was saying it 3 months before he was selected.
We needed mids and went for a speculative pick that turned out to be an injury bust.

 

[Joffaboy]

my 1st year on here was about as good as you would ever see #Elite

Yes but best is behind you and should be delisted [emoji14][emoji14][emoji14]

 

[triggering bro]

Just cant see him playing in the backline, he would be 10th in waiting- forward line-NO . There are no spots for him. I cant understand why he has been signed up for a year, not even as depth.

It’s strange. He’s completely cooked & I can’t see him getting a game either. That’s why I reckon it’s cos of the soft cap. I imagine he’s signed up pretty cheap & he’ll transition to coaching after he retires. Seems the type.

 

[triggering bro]

Or Max Heath

I’m actually being half serious about Marshall ruck rover. Paddy ruck. Marshall’s ground work is actually really good & he does all the smart one percent congested type stuff prob cos of his rugby background.

 

[Joffaboy]

Plenty on here and SS including I think Big Mart that thought that a fat diabetic that would need luck to meet expectation was a poor choice. I remember people thinking that head knocks could be an issue early on even.

Didn't care about diabetes, puppy fat and didn't even contemplate head knocks.

We needed mids did then, still do now, that was it for me.
The speil was a key forward are too hard to get and we could get mids any old time. Well both turned out to be BS. KING 4 years later and we never did pick up a bunch of quality mids, we got Steele

 

[triggering bro]

Was saying it 3 months before he was selected.
We needed mids and went for a speculative pick that turned out to be an injury bust.

This place was buzzing like I’d never seen it before when we were getting Petracca. Well at least on par when we were supposedly trading a cooked Sam Fisher to GWS for picks 2 & 3.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Its a worry if Ratts still cant see Battle is not a wing

Most definitely. A lot of "spaces" in his narrative as well. I am not impressed with what Ratten comes out with. Did something like this about 4-6 weeks ago. Meaningless drivel about stuff we already know about or something the club should have picked up earlier and acted upon

 

[Mowman]

Saints to prioritise development, coaching panel restructure

St Kilda coach Brett Ratten reveals the Saints' plans for 2022

t.co

Mitch Cleary. Quick skim through it looks good.

Amongst other things talks Battle - and where to play him

Ratts’ contract ending end of 2022 - they’ll discuss that Feb/March… personally hope nothing is signed before at least the after the bye.

I'm hoping we don't rush it. no need to sign him before the bye and thats only if we are looking like we are play finals

 

[Bill Mohr]

“Need a big bodied midfielder”

Marshall ruck rover…

Wash your mouth out mate, I have it on good authority that Marshall is a not a midfielder but a dead set ruckman. How about.....Battle or Coffield !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ducky Tie]

True, but Martin is a different kettle of fish. A total matchwinner and big bodied. He did the grunt work regardless of his height. Probably incomparable in history for big games..ala leigh Matthews. I dont see Crouch busting packs....and Clark is not even in there yet as a permanent mid. You have to have one.

We have Steele. He’s 187cm and plays as strong as any midfielder in the comp. There’s no evidence that more bigger mids. We just need more elite mids.

 

[triggering bro]

Wash your mouth out mate, I have it on good authority that Marshall is a not a midfielder but a dead set ruckman. How about.....Battle or Coffield !!!!!!!!!!!

Sharman?

 

[Bill Mohr]

We have Steele. He’s 187cm and plays as strong as any midfielder in the comp. There’s no evidence that more bigger mids. We just need more elite mids.

Not knocking Steele but I gave evidence in my original post.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Sharman?

Cant see it. Dead set forward

 

[triggering bro]

Cant see it. Dead set forward

I was being facetious.
I reckon Battle lacks the agility & fast twitch fibres to make it as a mid. Not sold Coffield can win the hard ball.

 

[70s sainter]

I remember being excited as the general consensus had us picking up petrecca.
Then when we grabbed paddy I thought “ he’s obviously a gun and must be rated as the next plugger. He ll bring the crowds thru the turnstiles and it was gonna be fun to watch etc “
Paddy was only a couple of cms taller than petrecca though so it was def a bit puzzling.

 

[Bill Mohr]

I was being facetious.
I reckon Battle lacks the agility & fast twitch fibres to make it as a mid. Not sold Coffield can win the hard ball.

lol...so was I

 

[triggering bro]

I remember being excited as the general consensus had us picking up petrecca.
Then when we grabbed paddy I thought “ he’s obviously a gun and must be rated as the next plugger. He ll bring the crowds thru the turnstiles and it was gonna be fun to watch etc “
Paddy was only a couple of cms taller than petrecca though so it was def a bit puzzling.

I think it was the eastern rangers coach that said if you want the best mid in the draft pick Petracca. If you want the best forward in the draft pick Petracca. He was being spoken about as a generational player. All the headlines were that Melbourne won the draft.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Not knocking Steele but I gave evidence in my original post.

Yeah there are gun big mids in the comp. There are also gun mids who aren’t big (Neale, Lyons, Laird, Walsh, Merrett, Parish, Miller, Parker, Liberatore, Treloar, Shuey, J Kelly, T Kelly, Boak, Zorko, Mitchell, Adams, Selwood, Prestia, Edwards & plenty more).

Height in midfielders is nice, but it’s not essential to have multiple big midfielders to be a contender. Richmond didn’t, Hawthorn didn’t, West Coast didn’t. Getting enough elite midfielders is the requirement, if they are tall then it’s a nice bonus. Not saying height doesn’t matter, but there is no blueprint/example of a team where it makes it clear that multiple tall mids are needed.

 

[PandaG]

Explain what impact Wallis, JUH and Sam Darcy are having for this current dogs team. And wasn't hunter not bid on until round 3?

Also claiming that drafting Coffield was the right call because you avoided draft busts is laughable. He's no better than Fogarty. It's a lot easier getting touches playing in defense. Just ask Bailey Dale. And the excuse your team passed on Naughton was the right call because you had Carlisle doesn't sit well either. I didn't realise you only need one key defender at AFL level.

Are you lost..?

 

[Mat Mann]

we wasted a whole generation of picks on not great players, that's why we are where we are, whats the point harping on about it. IMO, it's time to get kids again, and as someone said, mids mids mids mids.

Turn not so great mids into hff's bf's, small fwds, wings

 

[staffonly]

The only reason he was ‘going 1 or 2’ was because we had the first pick and our recruiters were fools.
We were obviously leaking the the info that we were going to go for McCartin otherwise there’s no way he was in the conversation of 1 or 2 by anyone who had a clue other than that the word was the saints for some reason might take him at 1

What garbage.