List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Murraj1966]

If Owens and Windhager go before 20 I think I'll just give up any hope of us ever getting a free hit at the draft.

Dees got pick 2 for Frawley for ****s sake.
Dogs get spoiled with riches
Swans get academy picks every other year
We get a kick in the head for daring to have NGA prospects.

 

[George]

We don't need to dismiss every rumour as bullshit, people don't need announcements to let them know it's bullshit, most of us understand what to believe and what not to believe. And believe it or not, some people here get given legitimate information. If we keep potting posters for posting what they may have been told, true or not, we will have the legitimate posters leave and the bullshit people complain about will fill this thread.

Does it actually matter if it's bullshit or not? What effect does it have on you personally? You can choose to believe something or not. This is how the trades thread have worked. Every single year.

 

[kick it lace out]

I wouldn't pay that much attention to Mitch Cleary. He also valued Ben Long's trade value at pick 40. GAGF I reckon!

 

[St Neil]

Are the clubs that like him in that range though?

Correct. Assuming the pick range is 16-20 those clubs (after bids for Daicos and Darcy are matched) are Brisbane Lions, Richmond, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs (whoever trades their pick) and Brisbane Lions.

No danger that Beveridge discusses this further.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Correct. Assuming the pick range is 16-20 those clubs (after bids for Daicos and Darcy are matched) are Brisbane Lions, Richmond, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs (whoever trades their pick) and Brisbane Lions.

No danger that Beveridge discusses this further.

Thank god Dogs have too many mids. Brisbane are fine with young mids. Port and Richmond are dangerous especially richmond with their midfield being old and short

 

[George]

Moving on, I'm hearing whispers that we are packaging Dunstan & Long for Ollie Wines. Dunstan is a SA boy and the grunt provided from both will make up for the loss of Wines. Hearing many at Port are not happy with his Brownlow speech slagging the club off for not wanting to play for them when they drafted him. Been a bit of bad blood boiling away for a while and it's come to a head. Make of it what you will.

 

[BrutThough]

Correct. Assuming the pick range is 16-20 those clubs (after bids for Daicos and Darcy are matched) are Brisbane Lions, Richmond, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs (whoever trades their pick) and Brisbane Lions.

No danger that Beveridge discusses this further.

Get Brisbane's two picks

 

[Premium]

8AM – SAINTS CONFIDENT OF LURING SUNS STAR

Three-time Coleman medallist Matthew Lloyd has revealed that St Kilda are confident of landing Suns star forward Ben King

34

Ben King

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

, also naming as Essendon as a potential suitor.

King, who booted a career-high 47 goals in 2021, comes out of contract at the end of next season, with several Victorian clubs set to target the 21-year old.

But after locking away his twin brother Max until 2026, the Saints are reportedly optimistic of uniting the pair, who were both taken in the top six picks of the 2018 National Draft.

“St Kilda think they’ve got him. The talk in Melbourne is that they feel like they’ve had him and will get Ben King

34

Ben King

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

,

 

[George]

8AM – SAINTS CONFIDENT OF LURING SUNS STAR

Three-time Coleman medallist Matthew Lloyd has revealed that St Kilda are confident of landing Suns star forward Ben King, also naming as Essendon as a potential suitor.

King, who booted a career-high 47 goals in 2021, comes out of contract at the end of next season, with several Victorian clubs set to target the 21-year old.

But after locking away his twin brother Max until 2026, the Saints are reportedly optimistic of uniting the pair, who were both taken in the top six picks of the 2018 National Draft.

“St Kilda think they’ve got him. The talk in Melbourne is that they feel like they’ve had him and will get Ben King,

Is this this year or next year mate? I haven't been following this at all, would do my head in.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

8AM – SAINTS CONFIDENT OF LURING SUNS STAR

Three-time Coleman medallist Matthew Lloyd has revealed that St Kilda are confident of landing Suns star forward Ben King, also naming as Essendon as a potential suitor.

King, who booted a career-high 47 goals in 2021, comes out of contract at the end of next season, with several Victorian clubs set to target the 21-year old.

But after locking away his twin brother Max until 2026, the Saints are reportedly optimistic of uniting the pair, who were both taken in the top six picks of the 2018 National Draft.

“St Kilda think they’ve got him. The talk in Melbourne is that they feel like they’ve had him and will get Ben King,

Would a King, Owens, Windhager draft haul be one of the best ever for the club? Trade everything we have for king and just ask for junk picks back so we can get Owens and Windhager. 2 mids and a generational forward

 

[BrutThough]

Is this this year or next year mate? I haven't been following this at all, would do my head in.

Next year.

King isnt moving this year.

 

[George]

Next year.

King isnt moving this year.

Why is it news? These trade periods are so boring

 

[CaptainRisky]

Moving on, I'm hearing whispers that we are packaging Dunstan & Long for Ollie Wines. Dunstan is a SA boy and the grunt provided from both will make up for the loss of Wines. Hearing many at Port are not happy with his Brownlow speech slagging the club off for not wanting to play for them when they drafted him. Been a bit of bad blood boiling away for a while and it's come to a head. Make of it what you will.

 

[St Neil]

I'd rather we get Owens then miss out. I'd be looking to trade pick 9 for a couple picks in the 15-25 range. Play it safe imo. From what ive seen Owens will be a jet, and with a first name as Mitchito, he's bound to be loved by the commentators.

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If the club wants to do this then the picks need to be no later than pick 18 because bids for Daicos and Darcy will be matched.

Pick 18 will become pick 20. Saints can match any bid from pick 21.

I would be targeting Brisbane’s picks if we decide to go down this path. But our football department will have good intel about what other clubs might be doing.

 

[George]

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Only reeling in the gullible

 

[Sun Ra]

Would a King, Owens, Windhager draft haul be one of the best ever for the club? Trade everything we have for king and just ask for junk picks back so we can get Owens and Windhager. 2 mids and a generational forward

You forgot we are getting Ollie Wines too ? Yeah.....

 

[BrutThough]

Would a King, Owens, Windhager draft haul be one of the best ever for the club? Trade everything we have for king and just ask for junk picks back so we can get Owens and Windhager. 2 mids and a generational forward

No one would know for 5-10 years.

Owens and Windhager are still speculative draft picks who have played little football for the past 2 seasons whether they are in our academy or not. They are rated anywhere from the late first rounder to third round. They might be great, they might fizzle out and be nothing like a lot of draftees who are rated pre draft.

 

[St Neil]

I am backing my man Callum Twomey, he has Windhager at 26 and Owens a little further back.

Beveridge does a podcast with Twomey. Maybe things have changed.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

You forgot we are getting Ollie Wines too ?

No room for him in the midfield he might have to play off the half back line in Coffield’s old spot

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Beveridge does a podcast with Twomey. Maybe things have changed.

Would they have the same sources?

 

[BrutThough]

Why is it news? These trade periods are so boring

Because there is nothing to talk about. So they mention Ben King and they now suddenly have something for people to call up about.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

No one would know for 5-10 years.

Owens and Windhager are still speculative draft picks who have played little football for the past 2 seasons whether they are in our academy or not. They are rated anywhere from the late first rounder to third round. They might be great, they might fizzle out and be nothing like a lot of draftees who are rated pre draft.

The fact that they’re rated at all near the first round means we’re getting good value for them as second to first round picks

 

[Parkysp]

To me he looks like he's being pushed to play a role when he looks best playing with freedom. A guy we know is a financial sponsor at the Dogs through his family business. He gets to the club a lot and reckons Bevo is a gun coach because he tries to get players to find their flair. He encourages the players to do things that make the footy they play free and fun. Long looks like the type that needs that kind of environment. He looks bored and restrained. When he used to go for screamers and tackle like a maniac or snap impossible shots he was glorious. He looks straight jacketed.

If he wants to make is an AFL regular the one thing that he could immediately do to improve himself is go and practice his set shot kicking. 2 goals 9 for the season and I wouldn't be surprised if those 9 misses were all under 40 metres out on a slight angle.
He'd be much more dangerous as a small defensive forward if he could kick a goal or two regularly to make an opposition running defender more accountable.

There is an AFL footballer in there physically and talent wise. Will he ever get there mentally with us? Which I guess is what you're saying about the environment, Gringo...our team does come across as a little too uptight and serious at times.

 

[kernelT]

The fact that they’re rated at all near the first round means we’re getting good value for them as second to first round picks

No it doesn't, we don't get any value till they're actually playing consistent, quality AFL footy.

 

[George]

Because there is nothing to talk about. So they mention Ben King and they now suddenly have something for people to call up about.

Lol, the trade radio and amateur AFL coverage of the trade period is so dull