List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Captain Paddy]

I think you'll find that HQ want Gold Coast to win a flag more than they want us to

This might be true. But two things

1) HQ can’t prevent a player changing club if they choose to. They can bring in rules to give them more money out of the cap but if they aren’t driven by money it doesn’t matter.

2) I can’t see us rolling over and letting HQ tell us that we can’t trade for Bing. Maybe the previous administration might’ve toed the line. But Lethers is a ruthless bull.

 

[BrutThough]

Ben King thing is simple for mine.

If he and Max were both ruck-forwards or forward-rucks then it would be an absolute no-brainer.

Because they're not, we shouldn't do it.

We'd have to have two other 200cm guys in the side playing first and second ruck, and adding them all up it just wouldn't work.

Marshall can ruck 90% of a game by himself. One of the Kings would be capable of running around and occasionally tapping the ball for a few minutes a quarter.

 

[AirWinmar]

Port have Marshall at 198 and Dixon and Ladhams above 2m as well as Georgiades as another tall, sounds pretty similar to how we'd line up with King King Marshall Membrey

Lions have Hipwood, Mcstay and Daniher 2 x 200, 1 x 195. Clearly looked worse once Hipwood got injured

 

[Rors]

My point is that Ben King is not a sh*t player and using Clarke and Winmar as examples of how "brothers don't work" whatever that means, is silly. Where's the talk about the Wakelin's?

I reckon the right reply there was:

“My bad, Raph was pick 8…”

Then,

“My point is that Ben King is not a sh*t player and using Clarke and Winmar as examples of how "brothers don't work" whatever that means, is silly. Where's the talk about the Wakelin's?”

 

[Ceanag]

Captain Risky thinks this post is a lie

Says Lieutenant Smug ...

 

[StCicatriz]

GC rule them selves out of trading for Dunstan and were even very cold on taking him as a rookie, said they'd need to look at it after the trade and draft period

 

[jwikked]

GC rule them selves out of trading for Dunstan and were even very cold on taking him as a rookie, said they'd need to look at it after the trade and draft period

Why would they trade for him lol?

 

[bergholt]

Marshall can ruck 90% of a game by himself. One of the Kings would be capable of running around and occasionally tapping the ball for a few minutes a quarter.

Yeah but they haven't yet. And the club seems to think Marshall is a second ruck so they're chasing a 200cm guy to be first ruck.

 

[bergholt]

GC rule them selves out of trading for Dunstan and were even very cold on taking him as a rookie, said they'd need to look at it after the trade and draft period

Yeah but they'd say that whether they wanted him or not - if they did want him then it makes sense to say they don't so we delist him and they get him for free

 

[Minga]

None.

But it means naught if you have no one to kick it to them.

I don’t care how shit your team is. AFL is a game of momentum and every side has ebbs and flows during a game. Put aside the point that I actually rate the future of our mids and that we can develop even if we get Bing, regardless, if we become more efficient by having a killer forward line that’ll only help. Now throw in a component midfield which this team ALREADY has but is sure to improve and a really solid backline and your off to the races.

What mid are you going for if we don’t get Bing? Are they more impactful then having an unstoppable forward line? Keep in mind, having both Kings is sure to attract players as well, who wouldn’t be enticed by kicking it to them all day long?

The club, these days, isn’t stupid. I don’t believe they would chase Bing if they didn’t have a wholistic team plan. Another good sign is that, do you honestly think that the 17 other clubs wouldn’t kill for two kings? Idk, at this point I back the club, if they stop chasing Bing that’s all good for me - I trust their judgment. But if they keep chasing him and actually manage to land him, well buckle up.

It would be a no brainer if we didn’t have years to debate over it.

 

[snails13]

its all very dependant on this draft. If we pull in 3 very good midfield prospects and Heath turns out to be our future ruckman then our needs have been filled for the next couple years and sacrificing a full year for King isn't an issue. Next year watching our seconds will be very exciting

Ditto

 

[bird_man]

Adelaide just signed Darren Burgess as high performance coach.

That's a great signing for them

 

[George]

I reckon the right reply there was:

“My bad, Raph was pick 8…”

Then,

“My point is that Ben King is not a sh*t player and using Clarke and Winmar as examples of how "brothers don't work" whatever that means, is silly. Where's the talk about the Wakelin's?”

Are we really going to bother discussing semantics. Yes, my bad. It's besides the point of what I was saying. No surprise at who liked the post either lol. Can't leave me alone.

I reckon what you probably should've done is understood what I was saying and not focused on irrelevant details.

 

[Joffaboy]

Unless we get massive unders for Bing (which we won't) I don't see why we need him. When will St Kilda realise that the feel-good story of a family connection does not automatically translate into on-field success? (Raph Clarke, Nicholas Winmar

Nicholas Winmar

Age

34

Ht

189cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.5

3star

K

5.5

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

, etc, etc)

You can't clone Max King

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

and you don't want to. It's a lazy way to recruit, IMO.

Max King IS cloned. Its not just a 'family connection' FFS King B is an exceptional player.
Unbelievable [emoji849][emoji849]

 

[StCicatriz]

Why would they trade for him lol?

sorry you're correct

i think the take away is they're not going to have him on their senior list. rookie at best. they do not sound keen

 

[snails13]

I don't doubt for a second that Bing can play. It's just that we shouldn't pay overs for him, just because he's Max's brother. How many 200cm+ players can you fit into a fwd line anyway?

Dont Marshall and Ryder rotate at CHF when not rucking.?

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Are we really going to bother discussing semantics. Yes, my bad. It's besides the point of what I was saying. No surprise at who liked the post either lol. Can't leave me alone.

I reckon what you probably should've done is understood what I was saying and not focused on irrelevant details.

Im gonna have to request you run all posts by me first champ, need to ensure I’m happy with them.
Actually feeling personally attacked if I’m honest.

 

[bird_man]

Unless we get massive unders for Bing (which we won't) I don't see why we need him. When will St Kilda realise that the feel-good story of a family connection does not automatically translate into on-field success? (Raph Clarke, Nicholas Winmar, etc, etc)

You can't clone Max King and you don't want to. It's a lazy way to recruit, IMO.

The obvious difference here is that Ben is a proven gun.

King, King and Marshall would be the envy if any club.

We just have to make sure we do well in the draft this year.

It looks like we are going to end up with a pretty good hand and may end up taking 3 to 4 players with potential to play midfield, wing or flank.

If the draft works well it 100% makes sense to go after Ben.

 

[Joffaboy]

GC rule them selves out of trading for Dunstan and were even very cold on taking him as a rookie, said they'd need to look at it after the trade and draft period

Heard today GC need to dump 4 contracted players to fit the 3 mandatory and Chol. Interesting times @ Fold Coast

 

[George]

Im gonna have to request you run all posts by me first champ, need to ensure I’m happy with them.
Actually feeling personally attacked if I’m honest.

Will it be approved if I argue semantics and miss points completely? It's edgy and rebellious to nitpick the mods comments. I should wear sunglasses next time I do it.

 

[bird_man]

I don't doubt for a second that Bing can play. It's just that we shouldn't pay overs for him, just because he's Max's brother. How many 200cm+ players can you fit into a fwd line anyway?

Bing woukd just take Ryders spot in the 22 so no different to how we are.

Melbourne just won a flag with 3 of them

Brown - Ming
Jackson - Bing
Gawn - Marshall

As long as Bing is happy to pinch hit in the ruck, I think he'd cause some real headaches with his mobility around the ground.

 

[StCicatriz]

Heard today GC need to dump 4 contracted players to fit the 3 mandatory and Chol. Interesting times @ Fold Coast

that would explain their stance on dunstan and the discussions that essendon seem more interested in him

 

[PandaG]

I’d do it. Not sure Brisbane would.

Brisbane has been public on wanting to sure up its talls. With the talent in their list and their window being open now they do that in a heart beat

 

[BrutThough]

Yeah but they haven't yet. And the club seems to think Marshall is a second ruck so they're chasing a 200cm guy to be first ruck.

Where has that been reported?

Every report I have seen is we are looking for a cheap, back-up option.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

My point is that Ben King is not a sh*t player and using Clarke and Winmar as examples of how "brothers don't work" whatever that means, is silly. Where's the talk about the Wakelin's?

Yeah the OP was off the mark.

Ironically we didn’t draft Jack Riewoldt because some thought it would be just because of the name.


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