Analysis 2021 trade thread

[Hollow Knight]

He did it guys! It took him 3 years but he finally did it!

 

[briztoon]

There's a pretty hefty rise in the salary cap next year. A fair bunch of that will probably be taken up by backloading covid paycuts, but you could probably have arranged some wiggle room in that.

Source?

 

[Dalions]

Didn’t Zorko re-sign for two more years?

Only 1, wanted 2.

 

[jjami15]

There's a pretty hefty rise in the salary cap next year. A fair bunch of that will probably be taken up by backloading covid paycuts, but you could probably have arranged some wiggle room in that.

If this was true weren't we one of the only clubs that didn't get their players to take paycuts? Therefore that increase in the salary cap would be able to be allocated to free-agents or trades.

 

[Lions1024]

If this was true weren't we one of the only clubs that didn't get their players to take paycuts? Therefore that increase in the salary cap would be able to be allocated to free-agents or trades.

I suspect so - I reckon our window will be open in the next couple of years. As Rich and Zorko retire, we'll able to target a couple of big names to replace them.

 

[Jivlain]

Source?

Player payments, including ASAs, are $13,165,950 in 2021, a cut of 9 per cent due to the pandemic. Player payments for 2022 are slated to be $14,769,322 if there are no cuts. All subject to the current contracts and without factoring in recruiting at season’s end or re-negotiations.

Salary cap score: the AFL clubs that do and don’t have room

At least five AFL clubs appear well-placed with their salary caps heading into 2022, but the bulk of clubs have relatively little space.

www.theage.com.au

 

[blueiris]

Did I miss hear Daly on the Roar Deal today, or did he say the club hopes to be a more active player in the trade period next year?

There’s this tall defender at Collingwood I like…

Maynard would be a great pickup

 

[briztoon]

Salary cap score: the AFL clubs that do and don’t have room

At least five AFL clubs appear well-placed with their salary caps heading into 2022, but the bulk of clubs have relatively little space.

www.theage.com.au

Let’s go shopping.

 

[Tom14]

Maynard would be a great pickup

He's talking about Darcy Moore.

Maynard may be the most overrated player in the competition.

 

[blueiris]

He's talking about Darcy Moore.

Maynard may be the most overrated player in the competition.

I feel you have that the wrong way round

 

[InFaganWeTrust]

Any interest in Charlie Constable

33

Charlie Constable

Age

27

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

9.0

3star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

22.4

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

?

 

[Daniels Riches]

Any interest in Charlie Constable

33

Charlie Constable

Age

27

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

9.0

3star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

22.4

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

?

Way too slow.

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[Tom14]

I feel you have that the wrong way round

Nah, Moore is very very good and would complement Harris beautifully (won't happen as no chance we could afford him), Maynard is great at losing one on one contests against average small forwards and offering nothing great offensively.

 

[bungalow_bill]

What would Moore be on?

 

[Tom14]

What would Moore be on?

Next contract easily 700-800k/year.

 

[mattsmob]

Nah, Moore is very very good and would complement Harris beautifully (won't happen as no chance we could afford him), Maynard is great at losing one on one contests against average small forwards and offering nothing great offensively.

Loves the tough guy act as well.

 

[briztoon]

I feel you have that the wrong way round

No he doesn’t.

 

[briztoon]

Any interest in Charlie Constable?

No.

 

[pulpdriver]

Salary cap score: the AFL clubs that do and don’t have room

At least five AFL clubs appear well-placed with their salary caps heading into 2022, but the bulk of clubs have relatively little space.

www.theage.com.au

If this was true weren't we one of the only clubs that didn't get their players to take paycuts? Therefore that increase in the salary cap would be able to be allocated to free-agents or trades.

Very well placed to bring in a high quality mature player in the next few years. Maybe next year if a free agent? The 22 FA list is choc full of quality defenders: Moore, Siciliy, Barrass, Short, Daniel, Pearce, Lloyd, Maynard. With a few of those teams in rebuild you'd think some might be swayed by the prospect of finals footy. Moore would complement Harris wonderfully. If Pies are around the bottom of the ladder next year you'd think they'd probably be open to letting one (maybe more) of their big three go as a free agent for an extra top 3 pick to accelerate their rebuild. Moore would be my target.

 

[mattsmob]

Very well placed to bring in a high quality mature player in the next few years. Maybe next year if a free agent? The 22 FA list is choc full of quality defenders: Moore, Siciliy, Barrass, Short, Daniel, Pearce, Lloyd, Maynard. With a few of those teams in rebuild you'd think some might be swayed by the prospect of finals footy. Moore would complement Harris wonderfully. If Pies are around the bottom of the ladder next year you'd think they'd probably be open to letting one (maybe more) of their big three go as a free agent for an extra top 3 pick to accelerate their rebuild. Moore would be my target.

Depending on how Sicily comes back from injury he could slot into our backlines nicely as well. I still struggle to see how we'll have enough money floating around to bring in someone of these guy's quality but fingers crossed.

 

[pulpdriver]

Depending on how Sicily comes back from injury he could slot into our backlines nicely as well. I still struggle to see how we'll have enough money floating around to bring in someone of these guy's quality but fingers crossed.

Sicily would be great but does seem entrenched and invested in the Hawthorn rebuild.

I think we should have the cash for one more high profile player. It seems like we've deliberately walked the tightrope now and avoided having to pay back any pay cuts so we'll emerge on the other side of the next CBA with a lot of free space.

Obviously some will be ear marked for emerging players like Robertson and retaining guys like McStay but we do already have most of our young guns tied to long term deals, Neale's contract was front loaded and our club champs like Rich and Zorko have entered the year to year contract stage where they're probably more interested in playing in a premiership than extra dollars.

Always hard to tell from the outside but it does now seem to me like we've planned to weather the storm then be able to bring in another gun via trade or FA in the near future to keep us up in finals contention.

 

[Warwick]

The best part about this time of year is that all the potatoes that are put up for trade all year by hopeful / delusional fans are delisted for nothing.

 

[BangyBangy]

briztoon Is pick 23 from the Doggies gettable?

Hypothetically if we did choose to trade our 2022 first rounder to get a third high pick this year would that be a target?

How does all the points stuff work for them? Is 23 going to be pushed back substantially anyway?

I could google it I'm sure, but I'm six Bacardi's in

**Edit: And I don't pour single shots

 

[cotter101]

We have serious potential to be a challenger for a while to become. Just hope we capitalise on it. And I think we will.

We’re building some list and I think we’ll be at the peak of our powers two years from now.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

I think it's worth noting that Ashcroft hasn't publicly (or privately that we are aware of) committed to the club yet - nor should he have at this point - so we do have to at least consider the possibility that he might not end up nominating us.

I think the odds of that are quite unlikely for a bunch of reasons, but when he's living in a different state and doesn't seem to have too much of a connection with the club yet, I think we need to be aware that there is at least some small possibility that he may choose to enter the open draft.

With that being possible and with us unlikely to get any further clarification on it until mid next year, I think it would be probably quite unwise to trade out our future first rounder unless the offer was too good to refuse. I'd probably do it for maybe pick 14 or better, but nothing less than that. It would essentially have to be able to stand on its own as a potential trade regardless of what happens with Will for us to consider it.

Also worth pointing out that assuming a normal season of junior football next year (fingers crossed), first rounders will be more valuable in 2022 than they are this year - because there'll be much more exposed form and much higher confidence in selections of Victorian prospects.