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Nothing amazing but certainly not bad for a Giants home game. Probably would’ve beaten 40k if not for the aforementioned covid factors lowering every crowd.
 
Cats / Bombers - 54,495. Another disappointing crowd with a pre covid view. The trends in place. Now the game needs time to hopefully build back up again. Although don’t count on Bomber fans doing the hard yards next week!!

Is it really disappointing? 54.5K I think is fine in these covid times. I am hoping that people haven't got to used to staying at home after these 2 covid years.

On Thursday, I was hoping for 80K but deep down I thought about 75K, so our game was about 10% less than what we were expecting.

Depending on venue, weather etc, expect a fluctuation of attendances of anywhere between 10% to 20% based on 2019 attendances and prior.

In Vic, I guess when mandates end (hopefully sooner rather than later) and also more people returning back to the city to work will help lift attendances by a further 5-10%
 
The crowds have been pretty good this weekend, but they are 5-10 thousand less than what they would have been pre covid. But the AFL have made it harder for themselves with it's ridiculous ticketing structure when trying to get tickets. If they want to get bums on seats, they've really gotta simplify it.
 
Agree. The best yardstick was the ~63,000 that went to the equivalent fixture in 2019, also Cats home game. Reasonable to say the crowd was about 20% what would’ve likely been the expected crowd pre covid. Round 1 and all, in normal times you’d have hoped 65,000 would rollup today.

Also, don’t discount the impact of busses replacing trains on the Geelong line today impacting the Geelong based fans rollup. The Cats member seating bays in the GSS were sparsely populated today.
Other train lines also closed this weekend. Belgrave & Lilidale.
 

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25,572 for the Giants/Swans game. Looked higher on tv and I had hoped it would cross 30k.

Still, it’s the 2nd highest GWS home game ever, only behind their first ever game.
 
25,572 for the Giants/Swans game. Looked higher on tv and I had hoped it would cross 30k.

Still, it’s the 2nd highest GWS home game ever, only behind their first ever game.
Give it one more go next year and if that is the best they can do, might as well play it at Showgrounds.
 
Cats / Bombers - 54,495. Another disappointing crowd with a pre covid view. The trends in place. Now the game needs time to hopefully build back up again. Although don’t count on Bomber fans doing the hard yards next week!!

makes you wonder if these are the crowds now, will they get better in winter when the covid situation might be worse?
 
makes you wonder if these are the crowds now, will they get better in winter when the covid situation might be worse?
Possibly worse. Either way it’s likely going to take time to rebuild confidence back for a portion of footy going fans. COVID’s not going anywhere so hopefully as time goes on the fans start to gain confidence and return to matches. It will take good promotion and creative efforts for a sustained period to gradually entice them back.

Kids free Sundays, family ticket discounts, short term discounts on food and beverages and other similar marketing strategies have been highly successful in the past to grow attendances and increase the number of games fans attend.

It could take years however the AFL and their clubs are very professional and will work hard to grow match attendances again. It appears we may need to be patient and be glad that we’re back at the footy again and can hopefully start building again from here.

Winning always helps too😄👍
 
no it wouldn't. With it being the 4th biggest match up in Melbourne this weekend it would never getting anywhere close.
I don’t necessarily agree with this. Covid aside, no trains (busses) out of Geelong must impact the Cats fans attendance. Cats fans can possibly enlighten us here. A couple of train lines in metro Melbourne were down too.

I have no doubt even as a Cats home game, under normal circumstances this is definitely a 60,000+ game. Whether its 62,000 or 65,000 is sort of neither here or there.
 
makes you wonder if these are the crowds now, will they get better in winter when the covid situation might be worse?
Obviously not. Don’t reckon that many people are staying home right now because they are worried about catching COVID. More likely the habit of going to the footy has been broken. Just like how people don’t like going to the office anymore, or that kids sports number are down 10 - 20%.
The question is whether crowds will ever return to pre COVID levels. Given the collapse of BBL, Super Rugby and AFLW crowds, I would suggest maybe not.
 
I don’t necessarily agree with this. Covid aside, no trains (busses) out of Geelong must impact the Cats fans attendance. Cats fans can possibly enlighten us here. A couple of train lines in metro Melbourne were down too.

I have no doubt even as a Cats home game, under normal circumstances this is definitely a 60,000+ game. Whether its 62,000 or 65,000 is sort of neither here or there.
Obviously that has an impact. As does Covid.

But people always have unreal attendance expectations. Geelong only have 18 home crowds above 60k. 9 of those are V Hawthorn and a few are from that premiership era v Collingwood.

It's the same as Carlton/ Richmond. Most games aren't the 80 or 90000. Most are low 70s. You need the perfect build up to get 60k+, whixh was never going to happen with the GF replay, Carlton Richmond and Collingwood/St kilda before it.
 
lso, don’t discount the impact of busses replacing trains on the Geelong line today impacting the Geelong based fans rollup. The Cats member seating bays in the GSS were sparsely populated today.

That’s the reason that I think the Geelong/Collingwood crowd in R15 2007 is just about the best crowd I’ve ever been a part of.

There was a snap strike called the morning of the game so no trains from Geelong and they still ended up with over 85k, their 2nd highest home crowd ever.
 

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The crowds have been pretty good this weekend, but they are 5-10 thousand less than what they would have been pre covid. But the AFL have made it harder for themselves with it's ridiculous ticketing structure when trying to get tickets. If they want to get bums on seats, they've really gotta simplify it.

Case in point, I was thinking of going to the Bombers Cats game yesterday. Looked up ticket pricing and could only find $80 or more tickets.

I know the MCG ticketing is the opposite of good faith and I could have looked around and got them cheaper - but I CBF, didn't go, watched it at home.
 
Record attendance for any AFL round is 400,401 set in 2017 (Round 1).

Currently sitting at 275,477 with 3 matches today needing 125,925 to beat it.

Hawks/Roos MCG
Crows/Dockers Adelaide Oval
Eagles/Suns Optus Stadium

SA/Vic no restrictions, WA 50% cap. Were it not for the WA cap restrictions this would be a certainty.
 
Obviously that has an impact. As does Covid.

But people always have unreal attendance expectations. Geelong only have 18 home crowds above 60k. 9 of those are V Hawthorn and a few are from that premiership era v Collingwood.

It's the same as Carlton/ Richmond. Most games aren't the 80 or 90000. Most are low 70s. You need the perfect build up to get 60k+, whixh was never going to happen with the GF replay, Carlton Richmond and Collingwood/St kilda before it.
Correct re Richmond/Carlton no build up low 70's is an excellent crowd. But under normal circumstances with a new coach high expectations pre covid there would of been 80 to 85k there. Prime example 2013 Malthouse new coach Round 1 81,000
 

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Only 1 larger Haw/Nth crowd in the last 14 years.

This round will probably end up the 4th biggest round ever.

This isn’t true (2016 (50,000), 2012 (42,500), 2008 (42,000 and 40,000 albeit at Docklands) drew larger attendances.

It was slightly larger than 2019 (36,500) but that was significantly lower than all other MCG home and away games between the teams.

Hopefully when we leave Tasmania the club has confidence in redrawing these bankable 40,000 give or take games back in Melbourne.

Hawthorn MCG home games outside the Sunday twilight slot are quite rare thanks to our (still) president’s war against the AFL.

Still waiting for that exit plan lol
 
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Only 1 larger Haw/Nth crowd in the last 14 years.

This round will probably end up the 4th biggest round ever.
Certainly a decent crowd. Closer to ‘normal’ than the previous games in Melbourne. Although it’s worth noting this was a Kangaroos members replacement game so that is usually worth 3-4,000 more ‘away’ fans attending. Good crowd though.
 
This isn’t true (2016 (50,000), 2012 (42,500), 2008 (42,000 and 40,000 albeit at Docklands) drew larger attendances.
Should have said 3rd biggest. I made post 2008 the starting point.
 
For the time being there‘s a chance games at the G that aren’t blockbusters will be less effected than others.

People might be less likely to be put off when they know it’s going to be under 50% full anyway. It’s all guessing at this point. 🤷‍♂️
 
Should have said 3rd biggest. I made post 2008 the starting point.

My mistake.

Hawthorn v North Melbourne games in Melbourne since 2008

Round 21 2016 50,657 (Saturday Afternoon)
Round 5 2013 42,108 (Sunday Twilight)
Round 1 2022 38,257 (Sunday Afternoon)
Round 3 2019 36,103 (Sunday Afternoon)

These are the games that are mostly shunted to Tasmania as supposedly loss-making fixtures in Melbourne (average 41,790)

Makes you think
 

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