Play Nice 2022 AFL/AFLW Crowds/TV Ratings/Stream thread

[dave10]

The subject of the onward re-selling of unwanted seats has never been adequately addressed anywhere to my knowledge
but it is something of great importance that should be done for a massive gain for football, the clubs and the fans.

Essendon implemented a seat resale program for a few years at Marvel, but discontinued it about 3-4 years ago. My understanding is that only about 600-700 members took up the offer at each home game which I think the club deemed for all the effort sng required resources didn’t stack up. Also, it received many calls from disgruntled members who took exception to have opposition fans buying up these tickets and filling empty members seats in the Essendon reserved seating bays. Regarding the second issue,
assume this is less a concern in WA as resold seats would be onsild largely to Dockers / Eagles fans.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Kwality]

Essendon implemented a seat resale program for a few years at Marvel, but discontinued it about 3-4 years ago. My understanding is that only about 600-700 members took up the offer at each home game which I think the club deemed for all the effort sng required resources didn’t stack up. Also, it received many calls from disgruntled members who took exception to have opposition fans buying up these tickets and filling empty members seats in the Essendon reserved seating bays. Regarding the second issue,
assume this is less a concern in WA as resold seats would be onsild largely to Dockers / Eagles fans.

I dont think the industry has come up with a workable solution as yet.

 

[Rouel_14]

Essendon implemented a seat resale program for a few years at Marvel, but discontinued it about 3-4 years ago. My understanding is that only about 600-700 members took up the offer at each home game which I think the club deemed for all the effort sng required resources didn’t stack up. Also, it received many calls from disgruntled members who took exception to have opposition fans buying up these tickets and filling empty members seats in the Essendon reserved seating bays. Regarding the second issue,
assume this is less a concern in WA as resold seats would be onsild largely to Dockers / Eagles fans.

I’d probably say the best implementation (which still has its flaws) is moving from specific seats to specific bays.

This allows clubs to sell 120% of seats knowing that not all members will ever turn up to a home and away game.

This was implemented in Richmond Premiership Circle I think end of 2017 and at the time caused a lot of disgruntled members but I think everyone is used to it.

In 3121 we have always had bays rather than seat allocation and it always works out great and always got a seat even in 90K+ home and away games.

Surely this is the way clubs like Essendon and Blues get back to 50,000 at Marvel.


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[The_Wookie]

The AFL now streaming the VFL as well as the WAFL




The Smithy's Victorian Football League (VFL) season starts on Friday 25 March and fans of the competition can look forward to all 198 home-and-away and finals matches in 2022 being live streamed free via AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App, for the first time.

Two matches will take place on Saturday afternoon and then one on Saturday night, before five matches on Sunday conclude Round One.

VFL broadcast partner the Seven Network will show a weekly game plus finals, live and free on 7 in Victoria and 7Plus nationally. Fans can catch up from anywhere around the nation on 7plus.

The AFL is continuing to live stream free all matches of Victoria's premier women's state league competition. One VFLW match weekly will continue to be live streamed via AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App, with the remaining matches available live and free on the new VFLW.tv platform, a dedicated live streaming hub for VFLW. For the VFLW fixture and links to streaming matches on AFL platforms, visit: afl.com.au/stream-vfl

 

[dave10]

I’d probably say the best implementation (which still has its flaws) is moving from specific seats to specific bays.

This allows clubs to sell 120% of seats knowing that not all members will ever turn up to a home and away game.

This was implemented in Richmond Premiership Circle I think end of 2017 and at the time caused a lot of disgruntled members but I think everyone is used to it.

In 3121 we have always had bays rather than seat allocation and it always works out great and always got a seat even in 90K+ home and away games.

Surely this is the way clubs like Essendon and Blues get back to 50,000 at Marvel.


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I agree, a great concept. Apparently only about 60% of season seat holders actually turn up to any given home game. Obviously this rate increases above this for blockbusters, and falls below 50% if the team is not performing. Therefore, this concept has merit and means no ‘management’ of the process from week to week.

 

[Bjo187]

I’d probably say the best implementation (which still has its flaws) is moving from specific seats to specific bays.

This allows clubs to sell 120% of seats knowing that not all members will ever turn up to a home and away game.

This was implemented in Richmond Premiership Circle I think end of 2017 and at the time caused a lot of disgruntled members but I think everyone is used to it.

In 3121 we have always had bays rather than seat allocation and it always works out great and always got a seat even in 90K+ home and away games.

Surely this is the way clubs like Essendon and Blues get back to 50,000 at Marvel.


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So the same amount of bays allocated each game? They use to just allocate bays for members in the 90s which I liked but they got rid of it after a while. It does annoy me when you rock up to a half full stadium and have to sit all the way up the top. It was even like that when I went to gc and giants stadium, small crowd but still had to walk past all the empty seats to go sit in the shit ones.

 

[Harry Bosch]

So like last year the G has gone about quietly closing off big sections for lower drawing games.

I get the business case, I understand the financial side of it and even how it looks much better having a full ground level.

This said, as a Tiger I’d much prefer to sit level 4 GA of the GSS than head down to the Ponsford. It’s just not part of our DNA.

Small change and understand the reasoning, but don’t love it!


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Looking at mcg website now ga top deck Olympic so they have come to senses somewhat

 

[The_Wookie]

looks like a great crowd at the scg

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

36,578 tonight.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[RodneyMaynard]

Amazing scenes, felt like a watershed moment for the code in Sydney.

 

[Angus Young]

**** that´s a big crowd... looks minimum 40k

 

[Bjo187]

How do the AFL let channel 7 get away with putting games like this on their secondary channel in Sydney? Its pretty poor in my opinion, it should be part of the next contract at least say 10 games a year on the main channel or something. Great crowd and great atmosphere though.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[The_Wookie]

First 3 games of the season all rated over 1m - season opener hitting 1.4m

2022 AFL Season												Television								33% metro									Kayo
Code	Round	Date	Day	Time	Home	Away	Venue	Attendance	Capacity	%Capacity	Host Bcast	Sydney	Melbourne	Brisbane	Adelaide	Perth	Syd/Bris	Metro O/N	Metro Cons 7	Regional O/N	Reg Cons 7	FTA O/N	FTA Cons7	Foxtel O/N	Foxtel Cons 7	O/N Total	Cons 7 Total	Fox Group	(est 83% STV )	Cons 7 Total
AFL	1	16/3	Wed	1910	Melbourne	Western Bulldogs	MCG	58,002	100,024	57.99%	Seven	41,000	333,000	34,000	79,000	60,000	75,000	547,000	695,000	187,000	270,000	734,000	965,000	268,000	268,000	1,002,000	1,233,000	458,000	190,000	1,423,000
AFL	1	17/3	Thu	1925	Carlton	Richmond	MCG	72,179	100,024	72.16%	Seven	18,000	302,000	30,000	72,000	50,000	48,000	472,000	515,000	154,000	163,000	626,000	678,000	232,000	235,000	858,000	913,000	424,560	192,560	1,105,560
AFL	1	18/3	Fri	1950	St Kilda	Collingwood	Marvel Stadium	40,129	56,347	71.22%	Seven	30,000	320,000	23,000	68,000	63,000	53,000	504,000	509,000	161,000	162,000	665,000	671,000	262,000	265,000	927,000	936,000	479,460	217,460	1,153,460

 

[Bjo187]

The_Wookie do you know what the average rating was for a regular season game in 2021? I'm trying to get my head around what is and isn't good ratings these days.

 

[The_Wookie]

The_Wookie do you know what the average rating was for a regular season game in 2021? I'm trying to get my head around what is and isn't good ratings these days.

Lack of Kayo data makes it hard to really compare.

This years ratings collection is all encompassing - with Total TV, consolidated data and for now at least, Kayo.

 

[Rob]

The subject of the onward re-selling of unwanted seats has never been adequately addressed anywhere to my knowledge
but it is something of great importance that should be done for a massive gain for football, the clubs and the fans.

It only matters if there's a sellout. Otherwise the home club loses on ticket revenue. How often does a game at Docklands actually sell out? Probably only happens 4 or 5 times a year.

The Eagles get away with it because they sell games out and have a big waiting list to market to.

 

[Rezza Tiger]

Another disappointing crowd today at the MCG especially with this cracking weather. Tomorrow will be even better weather but based on todays rollup I'm expecting a very small crowd for Richmond v GWS more akin to a BBL atmosphere. Hard to know if it's covid or the crappy rules making games unwatchable or a bit of everything

 

[dave10]

Another disappointing crowd today at the MCG especially with this cracking weather. Tomorrow will be even better weather but based on todays rollup I'm expecting a very small crowd for Richmond v GWS more akin to a BBL atmosphere. Hard to know if it's covid or the crappy rules making games unwatchable or a bit of everything

I’m still hearing lots of noise around stupid reserved seat prices, parking costs and restrictions, poor service in stadiums, difficulty buying tickets via ticket agencies and membership barcode / app issues that all create barriers in addition to covid.

Feels like attending matches is too difficult for some presently. It will take time and effort on everyone’s part to grow attendances again.

 

[Bjo187]

Another disappointing crowd today at the MCG especially with this cracking weather. Tomorrow will be even better weather but based on todays rollup I'm expecting a very small crowd for Richmond v GWS more akin to a BBL atmosphere. Hard to know if it's covid or the crappy rules making games unwatchable or a bit of everything

It's covid the games this year have been great quality in my opinion.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Coll vs Adel = 36,843

 

[AstuteTiger]

Coll vs Adel = 36,843

That's fine in these times. 2019 and prior, you'd expect 40-45K. Not sure how many crows fans are there today, 3-5K at a guess?

 

[dave10]

Coll vs Adel = 36,843

That’s a decent crowd. That gets a good pass. 35-40,000 would’ve been the most likely estimate TBH.