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List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2
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There's nothing more obvious. Should do it now. He's another future contender for "footy ****ed up my brain" and suing the AFL and Crows in later life.
Why hasn't the club committed to Keeler through our academy picks? Looks likely to be early second round?
Not obvious at all. Very far from it. Retiring will potentially limit his claim to his current contract entitlements, and if this is his last contract he should make sure he gets full value
The question of playing is a separate matter
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I'm a bit surprised - this is exactly what I hoped would happen and what seemed like the smartest route.
What a strange feeling
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I think Reid has worked his way through it fairly well if we go back a couple of months to where we are now.
I think the two things he would be looking at in 12 months is if he thinks we are a good chance to bring another Dawson / Rankine type and what picks we might need to make that happen.
Also how confident he is on Doodee staying. I think the answer is very confident but if he left we would probably pick up a second round pick as compensation? That might also determine how hard we can go at a free agent so to not cancel out any compo.
I think the two things he would be looking at in 12 months is if he thinks we are a good chance to bring another Dawson / Rankine type and what picks we might need to make that happen.
Also how confident he is on Doodee staying. I think the answer is very confident but if he left we would probably pick up a second round pick as compensation? That might also determine how hard we can go at a free agent so to not cancel out any compo.
Here's one way to look at the list changes. We finished 2022 with 37 senior, 5 Cat A rookies, two Cat B plus Turner who was an additional player with Seeds on the LTI list.
The Cat B list is unchanged - Borlase and Newchurch.
The main list has deleted Frampton, Rowe and Brown (traded/delisted/retired); Seeds and McPherson ('benched'). Rankine, Strachan and Butts have been added, leaving us 35 confirmed main list players. We can have up to 38.
The rookie list has deleted Davis, Strachan and Butts, leaving Parnell and Murray.
Turner has been delisted.
MM will almost certainly be added to the main list, giving us the minimum 36 seniors.
If Seeds and McPherson are re-rookied as committed, we are up to 36 + 4 Cat A + 2 Cat B.
So there are 2 remaining spots that could be filled as senior or rookie players. A third spot could possibly be created if Seeds is put back on the LTI list.
The Cat B list is unchanged - Borlase and Newchurch.
The main list has deleted Frampton, Rowe and Brown (traded/delisted/retired); Seeds and McPherson ('benched'). Rankine, Strachan and Butts have been added, leaving us 35 confirmed main list players. We can have up to 38.
The rookie list has deleted Davis, Strachan and Butts, leaving Parnell and Murray.
Turner has been delisted.
MM will almost certainly be added to the main list, giving us the minimum 36 seniors.
If Seeds and McPherson are re-rookied as committed, we are up to 36 + 4 Cat A + 2 Cat B.
So there are 2 remaining spots that could be filled as senior or rookie players. A third spot could possibly be created if Seeds is put back on the LTI list.
2 seems most likely , I predict it will be Barnett ( after missing out on Phillipou) and a rookie (+ Michaelanny ) to round out our list
Will be interesting to see if we use one of those spots for a rookie we rate that slides through, or if we end up re-drafting Turner
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I'd like to see Turner get a full season, as a Rookie .....still better than Davis
And better than both seeds and moose as a rookie option
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I thought we could only bring in 2 players in total?
Yes, though the replacement needs to come via the PSSP or MSD, not the RD.
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I dare say this would be the Crows plan for Seedsman. Re-rookie him then place him on the LTI and pick up a DFA/Undrafted player through the PSSP. It makes sense to give the Crows maximum flexibility whilst also honouring the contracts. The Crows could also let go of McPherson in the New Year and payout his contract if they need to open up another PSSP/MSD rookie position. From my count there are 8 - 12 players that will potentially be exited from the Crows next year. It makes sense to bring in a couple of DFA's or rucks that need time to develop through the PSSP process. From a raw ruck perspective I really like the look of Max Knobel who will take 4-5 years to develop, but is athletic, can ruck and is 207cm tall and still growing (Potentially a young version of Max Gawn). I also still really like the look of Caleb Poulter and Riley Collier-Dawkins as those tall powerful goal-kicking midfielders with some speed.
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Roweys salty because jimmy got cut. Thinks it's evidence that they don't know what they're doingHeard Rowie on AA tonight - on the news about Butts, Strachan, McPherson and Seed he said he "doesn't understand what they're doing with the list"
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I doubt Seeds goes on the long term industry list, we are talking March before games start. If he’s still not in a position where he can play then, he should have retired.
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It may well be that he has/will retire but needs to be kept on the list for salary cap purposes. We may place him on the LTI list so we can open a list spot in the meantime to pick up another prospect
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He should retire and get everything he is owed in his contract. Best for both parties
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Yes, but we may not have enough room left in the 2022 salary cap to pay him out now. Don't forget that we're already paying out the last year of Brown's contract.
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Depends on Seedsman … could just be the 2 from the main draft ( likely Michaelanny/ Barnett )
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Seems a fait accompli, Seedsman will not be playing for the Crows again ......a shame, but his health is way more importantHome – Triple M
That sounds like he's doneHome – Triple M
Yes, just managing his exit. As usual in these cases we will not every detail but the big picture is clear enough.
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