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Thetrader15 said:
Port. They're desperate for a forward after passing on Ben King in the draft.
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They passed on a KPP, Ben played both KPD and KPF and thoughts were divided where he might end up playing be it back or forward. The problem with his forward craft at draft time was considered to be his set shot goal kicking, very hit and miss.
 
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Mutineer said:
They passed on a KPP, Ben played both KPD and KPF and thoughts were divided where he might end up playing be it back or forward. The problem with his forward craft at draft time was considered to be his set shot goal kicking, very hot and miss.
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Might be getting your Kings mixed up.

Ben's a much better kick, 89.54 for his career
 
Thetrader15 said:
Might be getting your Kings mixed up.

Ben's a much better kick, 89.54 for his career
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Nope, I watched both lads play for the Sandy Dragons, on occasions live, Ben was very hit and miss especially closer in to goal, better from long range.
 
Mutineer said:
They passed on a KPP, Ben played both KPD and KPF and thoughts were divided where he might end up playing be it back or forward. The problem with his forward craft at draft time was considered to be his set shot goal kicking, very hot and miss.
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The teams that passed on the King brothers would be kicking themselves, with the exception of Carlton who have good tall forwards already.

Rankine and Luko ahead of Max King and Rozee ahead of Ben King are looking like draft night howlers.
 
So... here's the list of AFC player trades (both in & out), according to the draftguru website. I've listed the players involved, but not draft picks.

** There have also been a number of trades for draft picks only - I have excluded these from the list below.

1991
Nil

1992
Hawthorn - Matthew Robran
Sydney - Stuart Wigney

1993
Hawthorn - Tony Hall
Collingwood - Brett Chalmers
Collingwood - Brenton Sanderson

1994
Hawthorn - Randall Bone
West Coast - Matthew Connell
Carlton - Peter Turner
Collingwood - Jason McCartney
Fremantle - Chris Groom, Andrew McLeod

1995
Essendon - Sean Wellman
Geelong - Martin McKinnon
Hawthorn - Darren Jarman
Melbourne - Anthony Ingerson
Carlton - Troy Bond
Western Bulldogs - Kym Koster
Sydney - Peter Caven, Paul Rouvray

1996
Western Bulldogs - Barry Standfield
Melbourne - Trent Ormand-Allen
Port Adelaide - Tim Cook, Scott Hodges, Aaron Keating
Collingwood - Brett James, Jonathon Ross
Melbourne - Nick Pesch, Clay Sampson
Port Adelaide - David Brown, Nick Laidlaw

1997
Port Adelaide - Brett Chalmers, Ian Downsborough
North Melbourne - Jason McCartney, Mark Stevens
Melbourne - Nathan Bassett, Matthew Collins, Brent Williams

1998
Fremantle - Tony Modra
West Coast - Chad Rintoul

1999
Brisbane - Matthew Clarke
North Melbourne - Scott Welsh
Hawthorn - Lance Picioane

2000
Port Adelaide - Matthew Bode
Hawthorn - Shaun Rehn
North Melbourne - Evan Hewitt

2001
Sydney - Ryan Fitzgerald
Melbourne - Peter Vardy
Fremantle - Daniel Schell
Carlton - Kris Massie, Andrew Eccles

2002
Richmond - Jason Torney, Kane Johnson
North Melbourne - Wayne Carey
Geelong - Ben Finin, Ronnie Burns

2003
Sydney - Scott Stevens

2004
Melbourne - Scott Thompson
West Coast - Tyson Stenglein

2005
St Kilda - Fergus Watts

2006
Nil

2007
Sydney - Martin Mattner
Melbourne - John Meesen
North Melbourne - Brad Moran

2008
Nil

2009
Nil

2010
Richmond - Richard Tambling
Carlton - Sam Jacobs
Fremantle - Jonathon Griffin

2011
Richmond - Ivan Maric
Hawthorn - Jack Gunston
GWS - Luke Brown
St Kilda - Tom Lynch
Sydney - Tony Armstrong, Lewis Johnston
Essendon - Josh Jenkins

2012
Richmond - Angus Graham

2013
Melbourne - Bernie Vince
Geelong - James Podsiadly

2014
Hawthorn - Kyle Cheney, Luke Lowden

2015
Geelong - Patrick Dangerfield, Dean Gore
GWS - Curtly Hampton
Carlton - Troy Menzel, Sam Kerridge
Collingwood - Paul Seedsman

2016
Gold Coast - Jarryd Lyons

2017
Melbourne - Jake Lever
Gold Coast - Harrison Wigg
Carlton - Bryce Gibbs
North Melbourne - Sam Gibson
Brisbane - Charlie Cameron

2018
Carlton - Shane McAdam, Mitch McGovern
Richmond - Tyson Stengle

2019
Carlton - Eddie Betts
GWS - Sam Jacobs
Port Adelaide - Billy Frampton
Gold Coast - Hugh Greenwood
Western Bulldogs - Alex Keath
Geelong - Josh Jenkins

2020
Hawthorn - Kyle Hartigan

2021
Sydney - Jordan Dawson

So... by my maths, that's:
9 - Hawthorn
8 - Carlton, Melbourne
7 - Sydney
6 - North Melbourne
5 - Collingwood, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Richmond
4 - Fremantle
3 - Gold Coast, GWS, Western Bulldogs, West Coast
2 - Brisbane, Essendon, St Kilda
 
Mutineer said:
I was at that game, South were in front and playing well when North' coach shifted Jars from the midfield to full forward during the 2nd quarter from memory and he slaughtered us. Mike Patterson the coach maybe?
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1st semi at AO. I was there with my Dad.
 
Mutineer said:
Pretty sure that's not the game, I'm almost certain he kicked 10 against us in another game where he was switched from midfield to full forward during the game and absolutely lit it up.
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Yes there were two bags of 9, he absolutely dined out on South in 1990. 23 goals in 3 games.
Must have been on the Panthers version of Jamie Shanahan.

134. 16-06-1990
Competition : League
Game Type : Minor Round
Round : 9
Opponent : South Adelaide
Result : Won
Jumper : 8
Goals : 9
Points : 5

143. 25-08-1990
Competition : League
Game Type : Minor Round
Round : 18
Opponent : South Adelaide
Result : Won
Jumper : 8
Goals : 5
Points : 5

147. 23-09-1990
Competition : League
Game Type : 1st Semi Final
Round :
Opponent : South Adelaide
Result : Won
Jumper : 8
Goals : 9
Points : 5
 
Interesting that Freo fans are jumping for joy over the Will Brodie salary dump trade with GCS. Brodie has been starring for Freo so far this year as a tall inside midfielder and they picked Pick 19 in last year’s draft for a future second.

Disappoints me that we don’t seem to hunt these sort of left-field trades that while somewhat risky can offer high value, particularly while we have salary cap space.

Brodie would have likely been a ready-to-go, significant upgrade for us over Hately. Of course we would have needed to have used Pick 19 well (doubtful) and cut a couple more fringe players or not drafted Rowe/Nankervis.
 
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Rags_118 said:
Interesting that Freo fans are jumping for joy over the Will Brodie salary dump trade with GCS. Brodie has been starring for Freo so far this year as a tall inside midfielder and they picked Pick 19 in last year’s draft for a future second.

Disappoints me that we don’t seem to hunt these sort of left-field trades that while somewhat risky can offer high value, particularly while we have salary cap space.

Brodie would have likely been a ready-to-go, significant upgrade for us over Hately. Of course we would have needed to have used Pick 19 well (doubtful) and cut a couple more fringe players or not drafted Rowe/Nankervis.
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Hately was the right move for us at the time especially considering what we paid (nought).
The fact he was drafted as an inside mid but had not been given the opportunities in that role at GWS it looked to be a great move to pick up a former big bodied 1st round pick with it all in front of him.

It's disappointing that he hasn't come on as expected but I guess there's still time for him to measure up.
 

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The crows and Himmelberg are in an interesting position. If he continues with current form, his next contract will be much better, maybe another club will give him more dollars and years. I wonder what the club does with him?? Do the crows offer him a deal soon or wait til the end of the year and see who’s interested, all the while offering an average contract to present we still want him
 
Jirkago75 said:
The crows and Himmelberg are in an interesting position. If he continues with current form, his next contract will be much better, maybe another club will give him more dollars and years. I wonder what the club does with him?? Do the crows offer him a deal soon or wait til the end of the year and see who’s interested, all the while offering an average contract to present we still want him
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A lot may depend on how Thilthorpe comes on and Tex's status at year's end?

Gollant is the interesting one contract wise heading forward.

Fogarty is looking less and less like the answer unless the penny drops with him soon that he needs to work much harder to get involved in general play.
 

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Mutineer said:
A lot may depend on how Thilthorpe comes on and Tex's status at year's end?

Gollant is the interesting one contract wise heading forward.

Fogarty is looking less and less like the answer unless the penny drops with him soon that he needs to work much harder to get involved in general play.
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Tex will play on I think, his form warrants it as well. We need to give Gollant a contract as he is so different to the others. If Rob doesn’t improve, we may throw him into ruck and let him run around. It may be a way to play him but not forward yet


Fog needs to look for more opportunities elsewhere in my eyes, he just doesn’t work hard enough, I don’t see him succeeding. Everyone said he wasn’t fit enough but it doesn’t matter if you don’t put in effort and provide an option when the half backs are running out of defence . He just stood still and did nothing.
 
Bit early to suggest Tex goes on

We have seen he starts strong and then hits a wall. With careful management he may stretch out 1 year - but is it time to manage and develop other avenues?
 
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GreyCrow said:
Bit early to suggest Tex goes on

We have seen he starts strong and then hits a wall. With careful management he may stretch out 1 year - but is it time to manage and develop other avenues?
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re a much better team with Tex in it, he will be good for you for another year at least
 
Mutineer said:
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Hately was the right move for us at the time especially considering what we paid (nought).
The fact he was drafted as an inside mid but had not been given the opportunities in that role at GWS it looked to be a great move to pick up a former big bodied 1st round pick with it all in front of him.

It's disappointing that he hasn't come on as expected but I guess there's still time for him to measure up.
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I was always worried about his pace, we got him for free so not a cost apart from a list position.
I can't see him in our future plans but who knows?
 
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