List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[WaynesWorld19]

IMO Crouch is the same type of player as Tom Mitchell ......it seems Tom Mitchell does have suitors for a trade ...so it would seem, so will Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

....who I must say, has definitely changed his playing style in the SANFL the last month .....but he's done that b4 in 2020, albeit under pressure he reverted back to form

Even Rucci would, it appear, take Tom Mitchell at Port

 

[George CantStandYa]

Natural selection PLUS the TPP will sort out lists ......yet you look at most of the Finalists and look at their bottom 6 players in the team .....very few, nay none, bat all the way to #22

Look at RICH .....Tarrant, Miller, Broad, Ross, and Baker (who I'd compare with McHenry) ......hardly skilled players, they are competitive role players though ......and god forbid, you look at the BULLDOGS bottom 6 players

What I'm saying is, even us, at the end of the rebuild will still have the likes of a Jones and McHenry playing.....or similar types, supporters will savage each week .....TPP ensures that

You really should stop comparing Baker to McHenry, it’s embarrassing. Baker would get a game in any team in the AFL and is quality. McHenry would get a game in our AFL and SANFL teams.

 

[Mutineer]

Natural selection PLUS the TPP will sort out lists ......yet you look at most of the Finalists and look at their bottom 6 players in the team .....very few, nay none, bat all the way to #22

Look at RICH .....Tarrant, Miller, Broad, Ross, and Baker (who I'd compare with McHenry) ......hardly skilled players, they are competitive role players though ......and god forbid, you look at the BULLDOGS bottom 6 players

What I'm saying is, even us, at the end of the rebuild will still have the likes of a Jones and McHenry playing.....or similar types, supporters will savage each week .....TPP ensures that

Jack Ross could be a lot better than a role player of he was given more opportunities in the guts.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Jack Ross could be a lot better than a role player of he was given more opportunities in the guts.

He has received some opportunites .....but only after injuries to Cotchin, Graham, and Prestia during the season

Tell you what though .....bloody Short is a terrible midfielder !!

 

[Mutineer]

He has received some opportunites .....but only after injuries to Cotchin, Graham, and Prestia during the season

Exactly my point.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Exactly my point.

Get Short out of that Midfield and Ross in

 

[Thetrader15]

IMO Crouch is the same type of player as Tom Mitchell ......it seems Tom Mitchell does have suitors for a trade ...so it would seem, so will Matt Crouch ....who I must say, has definitely changed his playing style in the SANFL the last month .....but he's done that b4 in 2020, albeit under pressure he reverted back to form

Even Rucci would, it appear, take Tom Mitchell at Port

Rucci just wants anyone at Port so he can try to claim the "destination club" status back.

 

[croweater 41]

I love a multi team **** around trade as much as the next person so here is my attempt at getting a heap of shit done at once*

Team	In	Out
Adelaide	Rankine, 44, Future 2nd (NM)	5, Future 3rd
North	5, 8, 13**, Future 3rd (ADE)	1, 19, 55, Future 2nd
GC	1, 19, Future 2nd (BL)	Rankine, 8, 32, 33, 43, 68
Lions	32, 33, 43, 55, 68	13**, 44, Future 2nd.

GC in essence trade Rankine and 8 for 1 and 19 valuing him at 10 and trade their second rounders for North's at the minute not real compo pick (see below).

North get 3 picks before 15 (well bids pending) to help further their list build. Adding Cadman Busslinger and a McKenzie/Humphrey/Ginbey is probably more attractive then just one of Sheezel, Wardlaw or Tsatas

Brisbane bank points for their 2 father sons.

We give up 5 but I think we are going to have to directly or indirectly to get it over the line.

I haven't included any McStay or other free agent compo's or traded players just what is there at the minute and a made up 19 (but likely they will get it)

*On the assumption NM get an end of round 1 compo pick (19).
**13 at the minute pending how far Lions go.

 

[baldandbroke]

You really should stop comparing Baker to McHenry, it’s embarrassing. Baker would get a game in any team in the AFL and is quality. McHenry would get a game in our AFL and SANFL teams.

Baker is one of my favourite players on the Tiger’s list. Along with Nick Vlastuin.

McHenry can dream of playing a single game in his career at Baker’s base level!

 

[shep90]

Long time lurker here, apologies if this has been discussed but thoughts on Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

being gettable? I know he is contracted for one more year but can see him as the big body we need. Have we made a play for him before?

 

[skittlebrew]

Long time lurker here, apologies if this has been discussed but thoughts on Jack Graham being gettable? I know he is contracted for one more year but can see him as the big body we need. Have we made a play for him before?

Sloane will have a mental breakdown if he comes across Graham. Mentally broke him in the GF.

 

[Mutineer]

Long time lurker here, apologies if this has been discussed but thoughts on Jack Graham being gettable? I know he is contracted for one more year but can see him as the big body we need. Have we made a play for him before?

Graham is good at what he does but too similar to what we already have, we need a mid with burst speed at least, hopefully with above average skills especially by foot, dual sided a bonus and some versatility would be nice too.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Jackson Callow delisted , worth a rookie list spot

 

[Mutineer]

Jackson Callow delisted , worth a rookie list spot

Absolutely not.
Does he replace Fischer up forward?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Would Richmond look at Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

? Midfield getting old (Cotchin, Martin) and Prestia injury prone. Edwards long gone from midfield. Bolton forward of the ball a lot.

Could barely find the pill last night. Toby Nankervis

25

Toby Nankervis

Age

31

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

2.9

4star

HO

21.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

6.3

4star

CL

3.0

4star

HO

17.0

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

4.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

8.4

5star

led their possession count by a mile.

 

[Scorpus]

Would Richmond look at Matt Crouch? Midfield getting old (Cotchin, Martin) and Prestia injury prone. Edwards long gone from midfield. Bolton forward of the ball a lot.

Could barely find the pill last night. Toby Nankervis led their possession count by a mile.

They're targeting Taranto aren't they?

I guess they could use Crouch as depth

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Would Richmond look at Matt Crouch? Midfield getting old (Cotchin, Martin) and Prestia injury prone. Edwards long gone from midfield. Bolton forward of the ball a lot.

Could barely find the pill last night. Toby Nankervis led their possession count by a mile.

There was a report, both WA Clubs were looking at Crouch ......he will have suitors, if Mitchell is

 

[Grooster24]

Baker is one of my favourite players on the Tiger’s list. Along with Nick Vlastuin.

McHenry can dream of playing a single game in his career at Baker’s base level!

Watching the game last night and without seeing these comments...I was thinking how garbage Baker was and comparing him to McHenry. Sure appears to get himself into position better than McSpud...but God his disposal is utter garbage.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Watching the game last night and without seeing these comments...I was thinking how garbage Baker was and comparing him to McHenry. Sure appears to get himself into position better than McSpud...but God his disposal is utter garbage.

And last night was one of Bakers better games .....agree re disposal

 

[Redline]

I love a multi team * around trade as much as the next person so here is my attempt at getting a heap of s*t done at once

Team	In	Out
Adelaide	Rankine, 44, Future 2nd (NM)	5, Future 3rd
North	5, 8, 13**, Future 3rd (ADE)	1, 19, 55, Future 2nd
GC	1, 19, Future 2nd (BL)	Rankine, 8, 32, 33, 43, 68
Lions	32, 33, 43, 55, 68	13**, 44, Future 2nd.

GC in essence trade Rankine and 8 for 1 and 19 valuing him at 10 and trade their second rounders for North's at the minute not real compo pick (see below).

North get 3 picks before 15 (well bids pending) to help further their list build. Adding Cadman Busslinger and a McKenzie/Humphrey/Ginbey is probably more attractive then just one of Sheezel, Wardlaw or Tsatas

Brisbane bank points for their 2 father sons.

We give up 5 but I think we are going to have to directly or indirectly to get it over the line.

I haven't included any McStay or other free agent compo's or traded players just what is there at the minute and a made up 19 (but likely they will get it)

*On the assumption NM get an end of round 1 compo pick (19).
**13 at the minute pending how far Lions go.

I think we would do that trade and so would the Lions. The Kangaroo's might. I don't know if Gold Coast want pick 1 enough there to accept that.

 

[crow2crow]

Are they less skilled or do they recognise that just putting player x forward is not going to have that much of an impact when the game is now tactically primarily system based?

Coaches still try things from time to time, including Nicks, e.g. Dawson forward, Murray ruck etc.

Also it’s all well and good to say Blight was a genius for swinging Jarman forward, but I dare say a lot of coaches could’ve pulled off some seemingly genius moves if they had him at their disposa

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There was a report, both WA Clubs were looking at Crouch ......he will have suitors, if Mitchell is

crouch wont leave SA IMO
i suspect we may finally see another trade with port when they fail to secure dunkley

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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crouch wont leave SA IMO
i suspect we may finally see another trade with port when they fail to secure dunkley

Crouch has said he wants to play AFL... so that would suggest he is open to leaving SA if that is the only way.

 

[70lethal]

Graham is good at what he does but too similar to what we already have, we need a mid with burst speed at least, hopefully with above average skills especially by foot, dual sided a bonus and some versatility would be nice too.

Didn't Pkye request this?
7 years later and Hamish still hasn't delivered.
Imagine sending the apprentice's to the hardware store and asking them to pick up a chainsaw that's already been paid for and they return with an axe
Then you send them back again and they return with a set of steak knives.
Goes again and gets a hacksaw.
Lets give it another go and gets a bandsaw.
Next trip they come back with a whipper snipper.

How long does one wait in hope before you realise the guys aren't cut out for the job.

 

[Betts are off]

Absolutely not.
Does he replace Fischer up forward?

Interesting perspective, I seem to remember you being exceptionally high on Callow in his draft year.

BTW I have no current opinion on him. Think the last time I saw him a was the game he dominated our SANFL team. But haven't seen a kick since

 

[George CantStandYa]

Would Richmond look at Matt Crouch? Midfield getting old (Cotchin, Martin) and Prestia injury prone. Edwards long gone from midfield. Bolton forward of the ball a lot.

Could barely find the pill last night. Toby Nankervis led their possession count by a mile.

Bloody good idea!!!