List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Thetrader15]

At the moment, it's not a very attractive list is it
And thats the issue, is they generally take a while to come on.
It probably comes down to how important the club thing ruckman are and what they are willing to invest

That or you go for a 210cm rookie who can catch and is competitive...if one exists!

At least we would win our share of hitouts and someone who likes to follow up and tackle.

Missed some handy ones there just off the top of my head.

Sean Darcy
Tom De Koning
Braydon Preuss
Nick Bryan
Sam Hayes


And Rowan Marshall who I was very bullish about in both his draft year for the Rebels and the following year when he was starring for the now defunct North Ballarat Roosters on the VFL.

We were also heavily into Jarrod Witt's but the Gold Coast offered him better deal contract length wise.

This was in relation to using an early pick on one, not getting one in general

 

[Betts are off]

Wasn't there a fair bit of interest around McAdam and Freo last year?

If Shane could hold his spot and become a strong 30+ goal forward with X-Factor this year (which he's on pace to do), he could actually be worth something on the trade table.

Plus with Sonny Waters being 32 at the start of next year and having lost a step over the last few years, Freo could use another spark player in the F50 to continue their fast rise up the ladder.

 

[Bearded Clam]

He’d definitely get us Carlton’s 2nd rounder

Would that pick be inside 40?

Carltons second rounder would be highway robbery.. and only possible because he’s contracted.

We desperately need the list spot.

 

[George CantStandYa]

That or you go for a 210cm rookie who can catch and is competitive...if one exists!

At least we would win our share of hitouts and someone who likes to follow up and tackle.

This was in relation to using an early pick on one, not getting one in general

But we could have used an early pick on a ruckman that wasn't in this list. All you've show us who they picked, not who was available.

 

[Mutineer]

How is Will Verall tracking for this year?
He seems to have dropped off the radar completely, you were quite positive about him a couple of years ago

Missed early games and chunk of preseason with osteo pubis but gradually getting up to speed after a slowish start where he mainly played forward. Last couple of of weeks he's done more rucking and he's starting to fire on all cylinders.

Going to be interesting to see how many talks get a run for SA at the upcoming Nationals given the plethora of tall talent available.

Harry Barnett, Tom Scully Harry Lemmey, Isaac Keeler, Will Verrall might be a stretch fitting them all in.

 

[GrandGazza]

Missed early games and chunk of preseason with osteo pubis but gradually getting up to speed after a slowish start where he mainly played forward. Last couple of of weeks he's done more rucking and he's starting to fire on all cylinders.

Going to be interesting to see how many talks get a run for SA at the upcoming Nationals given the plethora of tall talent available.

Harry Barnett, Tom Scully Harry Lemmey, Isaac Keeler, Will Verrall might be a stretch fitting them all in.

Keeler misses hopefully

 

[Thetrader15]

I think ROB was the last project ruckman we took on.
The problem is they take so long normally to be strong enough to compete.
But if we keep using rookie picks, we keep getting ROB and Strachan types

Some pretty handy #1 rucks going around who were taken late in the draft! ROB's been pretty good too in the last 24m, but this year he's certainly down on form.

Nankervis - 35
McInerney - 37
Darcy - 38
Hayes - 47
Witts - 67
Marshall - rookie
Draper - rookie
Preuss - rookie

 

[Vader]

Carltons second rounder would be highway robbery.. and only possible because he’s contracted.

We desperately need the list spot.

We don't. We really don't.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Rowie said we are into Brett Turner from Glenelg and he had to apply for an exemption.

A 184cm midfielder, Mutineer any good?

 

[MRB37]

Rowie said we are into Brett Turner from Glenelg and he had to apply for an exemption.

A 184cm midfielder, Mutineer any good?

The BMX bandit!

 

[dogs105]

I think ROB was the last project ruckman we took on.
The problem is they take so long normally to be strong enough to compete.
But if we keep using rookie picks, we keep getting ROB and Strachan types

Interesting run through some rucks in our history, if people want to see if they can spot any correlation.

Romano Negri - concessions
Mark Mickan - concessions
David Pittman - concessions
Shaun Rehn - concessions
Tom Gilligan - first round pick
Aaron Keating - trade, PA concessions
Ben Marsh - rookie draft
Lucas Herbert - 3rd round pick
Matthew Golding - rookie draft
Matthew Clarke - trade [was pick 46 in preseason draft for Brisbane, traded for ND picks 6 and 21]
Rhett Biglands- 1st round pick
Ben Hudson - 3rd round pick
Jonathan Griffin - rookie draft
John Meesen - 1st round pick
Kurt Tippett - 2nd round pick
Brad Moran - trade [original pick 48, traded for 37]
Ivan Maric - 6th round pick
Sam Jacobs - trade [originally rookie draft, traded for 2nd and 4th round picks]
Josh Jenkins - trade [originally rookie draft]
Reilly O'Brien - rookie draft
Kieran Strachan - rookie draft

 

[Betts are off]

Did I just read that Kim Kantilla got a MSD exemption?

Didn't he play really well against us a few weeks ago?

 

[George CantStandYa]

The BMX bandit!

??

 

[maxlilly]

Interesting run through some rucks in our history, if people want to see if they can spot any correlation.

Romano Negri - concessions
Mark Mickan - concessions
David Pittman - concessions
Shaun Rehn - concessions
Tom Gilligan - first round pick
Aaron Keating - trade, PA concessions
Ben Marsh - rookie draft
Lucas Herbert - 3rd round pick
Matthew Golding - rookie draft
Matthew Clarke - trade [was pick 46 in preseason draft for Brisbane, traded for ND picks 6 and 21]
Rhett Biglands- 1st round pick
Ben Hudson - 3rd round pick
Jonathan Griffin - rookie draft
John Meesen - 1st round pick
Kurt Tippett - 2nd round pick
Brad Moran - trade [original pick 48, traded for 37]
Ivan Maric - 6th round pick
Sam Jacobs - trade [originally rookie draft, traded for 2nd and 4th round picks]
Josh Jenkins - trade [originally rookie draft]
Reilly O'Brien - rookie draft
Kieran Strachan - rookie draft

That our best rucks came from concessions ?

 

[Mutineer]

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That's a long long time ago. I think he showed a bit as running defender for West Adelaide at U18's level but went undrafted
Surprised we'd have interest more a journey man than a star at SANFL level and at 25 it would be a strange addition IMO with so many youngsters to blood.

Glenelg - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[Mego Red]

Not sure if he's rated a mention here before but one player I'd love us to take a strong look at is Connor Budarick

19

Connor Budarick

Age

24

Ht

175cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.5

3star

MG

171.3

3star

D

10.6

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

171.3

3star

D

10.6

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

153.0

3star

from the Suns. There's a clear link to SA through his old man (although I don't know how long Connor was in Adelaide if at all) which is something to go on and he'd be a direct, like-for-like, superior replacement for Brown as a lockdown small defender with the ability to run off and create.

Seemed like he took a little while (understandably) coming back from an ACL (I think) but he looks like he's back in decent form now but nowhere near a household name so this might be the time to strike.

Would be a great addition to our team.

I like this a lot.

 

[MRB37]

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He won a national juniors BMX title at 10 or something like that. Was a bit about it when he entered the draft the first time since he went BMX, basketball until he was 16 and then football.

 

[MRB37]

That's a long long time ago. I think he showed a bit as running defender for West Adelaide at U18's level but went undrafted
Surprised we'd have interest more a journey man than a star at SANFL level and at 25 it would be a strange addition IMO with so many youngsters to blood.

Glenelg - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Reckon it could be a bit of a senior "top up" for the SANFL side after we lost Freeman?

 

[George CantStandYa]

Reckon it could be a bit of a senior "top up" for the SANFL side after we lost Freeman?

Yeah but surely you aren't using a list spot for that

 

[Mutineer]

Reckon it could be a bit of a senior "top up" for the SANFL side after we lost Freeman?

Yeah but if we take him in the MSD he takes a list spot?

Jay Boyle is the same age, taller and heavier so why not him?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Not sure I want to target anyone over 22yo

 

[Mutineer]

Not sure I want to target anyone over 22yo

Jay Rantall (20) the running/tackling machine going pretty well for the Redlegs, another that never really got a fair crack at AFL for the Pies due to being there during the Covid in Victoria?

 

[Scorpus]

Jay Rantall (20) the running/tackling machine going pretty well for the Redlegs, another that never really got a fair crack at AFL for the Pies due to being there during the Covid in Victoria?

Collingwood fans thought he sucked and weren't surprised at his delisting

 

[Mutineer]

Collingwood fans thought he sucked

I saw plenty of him live and he didn't suck then especially given he was relatively new to the game coming through an elite basketbal/athleticsl program where he represented Australia.

 

[Scorpus]

I saw plenty of him live and he didn't suck then especially given he was relatively new to the game coming through an elite basketbal/athleticsl program where he represented Australia.

General thoughts on the Collingwood board were that he was small, slow, had poor skills (especially kicking) and bad football IQ