List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Scorpus]

Dow has done this B4 .....I've seen him rip up an AFL game and dominate a half of footy .....and then disappear

Much easier to run out a VFL game, which is below SANFL standard ...than it is an AFL game, with associated pressure

He's certainly got some talent, and another AFL club would pick him up ....the CROWS though, already have enough of his player type

If we want a guy that racks up touches and clearances at reserves level but has never shown to be AFL quality, look no further than re-listing Riley Knight

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You only need to look at the SANFL reserves these days full of kids that have been passed over in the last couple of drafts and apart from a few SANFL journeymen that are break glass in emergency League players it's pretty bereft of talent. Almost all the good mature age players not getting regular League games prefer to play in the Country or Ammos with mates. One only needs to look at some of our top ups this year, most are clearly right up to SANFL League standard at least, players like Boyle, McKenzie etc would walk into most Snaffle League teams if they were still that way inclined.

So why aren't more current draftee's playing SANFL Reserves ? ......I don't know how many are BTW

 

[Mutineer]

So why aren't more current draftee's playing SANFL Reserves ? ......I don't know how many are BTW

You tell me, I do watch U18's and any U18 lads eligible for that year's draft so perhaps you can explain why whem lads like Kobe Ryan, Nick Saddler, Harry Barnett, Brodie Tuck etc invariably dominate at Reserves level as much as they do in the U18's, even the U18 lads that play League invariably show they are well up to the standard like Kobe Ryan and Nick Sadler for instance this year. The SANFL is no longer the level of past years.

 

[sutts]

Dow is a dud. We already have our very own Paddy Dow in Hately. Performs in the sanfl and is awful at AFL level. The only players we need to be bringing in from our list or via a trade is replacements for players such as Rowe, McHenry, Murphy, ROB, Jones, Keays, Smith plus a big bodied explosive mid, another KPD and a better ruck.

Hately has rarely played in his correct position at AFL level. He's not awful, he's actually played well this season.

 

[Mutineer]

Hately has rarely played in his correct position at AFL level. He's not awful, he's actually played well this season.

Dow has acceleration from the contest that Hately definitely doesn't possess.

 

[Barneythecrab]

Would keep Ben Davis

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Ben Davis

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

MG

169.0

3star

on the list in case Hamill cannot keep going.

 

[sutts]

Dow has acceleration from the contest that Hately definitely doesn't possess.

No one has said anything remotely close to the contrary. What's your point?

 

[Mutineer]

No one has said anything remotely close to the contrary. What's your point?

Just what I posted, Hately lacks acceleration and speed.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Would keep Ben Davis on the list in case Hamill cannot keep going.

Davis for his limited opportunities has not performed that badly. Not our worst player. Saying that why should he remain on the list if he plays only random games.

 

[CountryLad]

It can happen. I think we could get Rankine, Hopper, Cox. Trade out pick 5 for pick 10 and 16. 10 goes to GC for Rankine. Pick 16 goes to Freo for Cox. Use our 2023 1st (probably pick 8-10) on Hopper. Either use pick 23 in the 2022 draft or trade it out for a similar pick in the 2023 draft. This would allow us to use the two 2nds to trade back into the 2023 first round.

Clearly Santa is coming early for Adelaide.
Rankine will be minimum pick 5 and future 3rd. Or Future 1st and a second rounder this year. Reference the Cerra trade from last year if you like.
You wont get Cox full stop he’s an important piece for Freo and to suggest pick 16 lol. If Freo were to trade a Key Back it will be Logue and or Hambling.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Clearly Santa is coming early for Adelaide.
Rankine will be minimum pick 5 and future 3rd. Or Future 1st and a second rounder this year. Reference the Cerra trade from last year if you like.
You wont get Cox full stop he’s an important piece for Freo and to suggest pick 16 lol. If Freo were to trade a Key Back it will be Logue and or Hambling.

Thanks Country Lad for telling us what the afl clubs will do

 

[skittlebrew]

Would keep Ben Davis on the list in case Hamill cannot keep going.

Hello no, Davis is 100% in the delist category.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Thanks Country Lad for putting the count in country

Is what you were thinking

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Hello no, Davis is 100% in the delist category.

That's five years running

 

[crow2crow]

Hately has rarely played in his correct position at AFL level. He's not awful, he's actually played well this season.

hately kicking is not up to scratch and thats got nothing to do with position you play

 

[DJ75]

hately kicking is not up to scratch and thats got nothing to do with position you play

Doesn't time his kicks at all. Hence lack accuracy and penetration. It's a technique issue.

 

[CharlieCrow]

I reckon that Davis will stay on at the Crows - but not as a player. I get the impression he is good guy and a great team mate, despite not being that close to an AFL player. I reckon they might find him a development job - perhaps with the first nation's players.

 

[CROW in BALI]

IMO ....Nankervis is a better option than Poulter .....Nank just has something about the way he moves & his decision making that oozes potential

I’m certainly not cutting Nank but I think there is a footballer in Paddy Dow somewhere for a club to unlock, happy with rumour that we are into Poulter, plenty on the list we can cut to have a look at him.

 

[crow2crow]

I’m certainly not cutting Nank but I think there is a footballer in Paddy Dow somewhere for a club to unlock, happy with rumour that we are into Poulter, plenty on the list we can cut to have a look at him.

I dont see a role for poulter or dow
would prefer we focus on a developing ruck with our leftover chips

 

[Mego Red]

Clearly Santa is coming early for Adelaide.
Rankine will be minimum pick 5 and future 3rd. Or Future 1st and a second rounder this year. Reference the Cerra trade from last year if you like.
You wont get Cox full stop he’s an important piece for Freo and to suggest pick 16 lol. If Freo were to trade a Key Back it will be Logue and or Hambling.

Why would the Crows give up 5?

We're the only team that can give GCS ANYTHING for Rankine. Other clubs may be able to steal him for free, but we're the only people who will pay anything, so why do we have to overpay?

Certainly not going to pay more than was paid for Charlie Cameron, Dawson, etc.

Cerra is a midfielder, so he is worth more than a forward pocket, especially one that was playing reserves footy last year.

 

[Mego Red]

I’m certainly not cutting Nank but I think there is a footballer in Paddy Dow somewhere for a club to unlock, happy with rumour that we are into Poulter, plenty on the list we can cut to have a look at him.

You do not just delist contracted players. Clubs never do it.

 

[sutts]

hately kicking is not up to scratch and thats got nothing to do with position you play

His kicking has improved noticeably since his rookie year, and this year his kicking was far from the worst on our list. Not our best kick but to say his kicking is not up to scratch is a lazy and misguided argument.

 

[Mutineer]

His kicking has improved noticeably since his rookie year, and this year his kicking was far from the worst on our list. Not our best kick but to say his kicking is not up to scratch is a lazy and misguided argument.

54.4% KE in his 11 AFL games is hardly anything to write home about.

 

[skittlebrew]

I reckon that Davis will stay on at the Crows - but not as a player. I get the impression he is good guy and a great team mate, despite not being that close to an AFL player. I reckon they might find him a development job - perhaps with the first nation's players.

Shouldn't a development role go to someone who actually made an AFL career for themselves?

 

[azza77]

Wonder what someone like Hayden McLean

2

Hayden Mclean

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.0

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.3

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

G

0.2

3star

would cost in a trade.

I mean he’d be silly to leave now with Buddy, Reid and Hickey on their last legs. But with Tex just about done, Himmelberg as purely depth, McAsey unproven and Thilthorpe spending more and more time in the ruck, someone like McLean is that perfect mobile FF who can play relief ruck and has shown a bit.

I think Swans would be very reluctant to let him go, but if we offered him instant first team footy…