Play Nice 2022 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings/Finance/Development thread

[Aussie in exile]

There is nothing stopping the AFL holding a game in the UK which has lots of Cricket grounds, if the AFL would be prepared to hire a ground for the going rate

NFL games tend to be around prime time in Europe and since the NFL has got serious about promotion it has done extremely well.
I don't think it would have gathered much support from the soccer fraternity but professionalism and glitz would appeal to the tackle football
community and newcomers to boot. NFL makes full use of the modern rectangular stadiums.
It is one sport that is truly booming in England in comparison to the failing rugbies.



It's been a while since any demonstration games have been held in London.
Unlike NFL, AFl doesn't have a great choice of locations to choose from so attendances would have to be capped.
If attendances are to be capped then that makes for a demonstration-style game rather than the preferred premiership game.
It's debatable whether the profile of Australian Football has changed.
It might even be less now that that the biffo and barge promotions are now frowned upon but significant participation growth
has caused the Great Britain League to split into English, Welsh and Scotish leagues as well as social and serious football leagues.
on top of that women's Australian football is booming.
Any AFL game would be boosted by these new participants.
IMO a AFLW game would be more suitable for the grounds and the likely attendance.
AFL doesn't have the luxury of media exposure or convenient viewing times but wherever people see Australian Football
the game usually appeals to them. That has always been the problem - exposure.
I was actually watching the NFL last night and the receiver took a great grab and the commentators went ballistic.
It was a great grab but something that occurs more frequently in AFL and AFL doesn't have the incessant stoppages of NFL.

The AFL has lots of options to hold a game in the UK with the amount of Cricket grounds the UK has, if it's prepared to pay the going hiring rate on a Sunday afternoon for a ground. Every first class county has it's own ground.
The NFL is very serious about expansion outside of the US, sadly i suspect that the AFL is just happy to be a domestic comp

 

[RedV3x]

There is nothing stopping the AFL holding a game in the UK which has lots of Cricket grounds,

No. you said "London" - now it's the UK !

Every first class county has it's own ground.

No, the cricket grounds in Britain tend not to be suitable for Australian Football or large crowds.

The NFL is very serious about expansion outside of the US,

It's taken a very long time for the privately owned NFL to branch out.

sadly i

Continue to troll

suspect that the AFL is just happy to be a domestic comp

The AFL is a domestic competition like the NFL and almost every other league.
You completely dismiss the history of Australian Football as usual.
Australian Football has done exceptionally well as the indigenous product of a very small populated country.
All Australians should be proud of what Australian Football has done for Australia are you ?

 

[Aussie in exile]

No. you said "London" - now it's the UK !




No, the cricket grounds in Britain tend not to be suitable for Australian Football or large crowds.



It's taken a very long time for the privately owned NFL to branch out.



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The AFL is a domestic competition like the NFL and almost every other league.
You completely dismiss the history of Australian Football as usual.
Australian Football has done exceptionally well as the indigenous product of a very small populated country.
All Australians should be proud of what Australian Football has done for Australia are you ?

Lords Cricket ground holds over 30,000 people.
The Oval Cricket ground is just under 30,000. What's the problem with hold AFL games there?
Since covid the NFL has been holding games for competition points outside of the US. When was the last time the AFL held a game outside of Australia for competition points?
I don't troll I post facts
The NFL might be a domestic competition, but it's the number sport in a country with a population of over 320 million, and has real ambitions to expand and my money would be on London being the next NFL franchise
The AFL has done well in a small domestic market, but needs to expand, but my money would be on it still being a domestic only competition in 30 years time

 

[Rob]

Lords Cricket ground holds over 30,000 people.
The Oval Cricket ground is just under 30,000. What's the problem with hold AFL games there?
Since covid the NFL has been holding games for competition points outside of the US. When was the last time the AFL held a game outside of Australia for competition points?
I don't troll I post facts
The NFL might be a domestic competition, but it's the number sport in a country with a population of over 320 million, and has real ambitions to expand and my money would be on London being the next NFL franchise
The AFL has done well in a small domestic market, but needs to expand, but my money would be on it still being a domestic only competition in 30 years time

Lords is flipping square, you couldn't host a game there even if they let you......the Oval can host football, but it's also 20 hours away by plane. New York to London is close to the same time on a plane as New York to LA.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Lords is *ing square, you couldn't host a game there even if they let you......the Oval can host football, but it's also 20 hours away by plane. New York to London is close to the same time on a plane as New York to LA.

What's the problem with taking a game to New Zealand?

 

[Rob]

What's the problem with taking a game to New Zealand?

NZ people don't attend live sport in big numbers.

 

[Macca180]

I don't troll I post facts

lol. 'Facts' that suit your anti-afl agenda.

Issues.

 

[RedV3x]

What's the problem with taking a game to New Zealand?

Oh deary me. you don't know about AFL in N.Z.

 

[RedV3x]

Lords Cricket ground holds over 30,000 people.
The Oval Cricket ground is just under 30,000. What's the problem with hold AFL games there?

It's the dimensions of the ground that make it unsuitable for AFL.

Since covid the NFL has been holding games for competition points outside of the US. When was the last time the AFL held a game outside of Australia for competition points?

Just before Covid.

I don't troll I post facts

You're stupid if you you think anyone believes that.

The NFL might be a domestic competition, but it's the number sport in a country with a population of over 320 million,

Exactly. That's why the the AFL does so well in comparison.

and has real ambitions to expand and my money would be on London being the next NFL franchise

NFL matches are great for the NFL , but a NFL team in London doesn't really add anything.

The AFL has done well in a small domestic market,

Australia is the same size as the U.S.A. and AFL teams play the length of the country - NFL teams don't !

but needs to expand,

Why exactly ?

but my money would be on it still being a domestic only competition in 30 years time

The AFL was on track for a N.Z. team but Covid and lack of suitable Auckland stadium stymied that.
R.U. found that an international competition has enormous problems.
Why does the AFL need to be an international competition ?
The Canadian league is coming along nicely and Europe has numerous international AFL competitions that are growing in popularity all the time.
The beauty about Europe is that there are many countries playing Australian Football in close proximity and at a relatively common level.
IMO European competition will become more important than the AFL International Cup especially because European AFL is annual.

 

[Macca180]

Why does the AFL need to be an international competition ?

It doesn't, but dickheads like this (upset NRL fans) that get triggered by AFL like to remind us that AFL isn't popular outside of Australia.

It's all they have.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

What's the problem with taking a game to New Zealand?

National pride. Their entire identity is wrapped up in (a) rugby and (b) rivalry with Australia. AFL would do better in Finland or Mongolia.

 

[Kwality]

What's the problem with taking a game to New Zealand?

Why though ?

We should sort out our national comp outside the heartland first & foremost.

 

[Kwality]

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[Gigantor]

Apparently Samoa is a real chance to win the Rugby League world cup.
I see a future where Samoa, Tonga and Fiji will dominate international rugby league.

 

[weewilly]

Lords Cricket ground holds over 30,000 people.
The Oval Cricket ground is just under 30,000. What's the problem with hold AFL games there?
Since covid the NFL has been holding games for competition points outside of the US. When was the last time the AFL held a game outside of Australia for competition points?
I don't troll I post facts
The NFL might be a domestic competition, but it's the number sport in a country with a population of over 320 million, and has real ambitions to expand and my money would be on London being the next NFL franchise
The AFL has done well in a small domestic market, but needs to expand, but my money would be on it still being a domestic only competition in 30 years time

There have been 17 VFL/AFL exhibition matches played in London - from 1972 to 2012 all the Australian Football matches were played at The Oval.

The biggest crowd was

8/10/2005

London, UK

The Oval

AFL post season exhibition

West Coast Eagles v. Fremantle

18,884

Apparently Samoa is a real chance to win the Rugby League world cup.
I see a future where Samoa, Tonga and Fiji will dominate international rugby league.

Yet they have less a than a million people between them and are still classed as poor third world countries!

 

[RedV3x]

It doesn't, but dickheads like this (upset NRL fans) that get triggered by AFL like to remind us that AFL isn't popular outside of Australia.

AFL is popular outside of Australia - it's just a question of how much.
Because of FTA coverage NFL has always had viewers around the world whereas the CFL hasn't.
Gaelic Football has a hotspot in New York but is still basically an amateur competition.
Rugby despite it's presence around the world only dominates in the small country of New Zealand.

It's all they have.

What rugby league antagonists have is the argument that rugby league has some semi-pro competitions in Europe
which have nothing to do with Australia. Australia has grown it's indigenous sport.
Qld and NSW have grown English football and imported a lot of Pacific islanders to play it.
Australian Football does have some great competitions outside of Australia and the next step is not that far away.

 

[Angus Young]

Lords Cricket ground holds over 30,000 people.
The Oval Cricket ground is just under 30,000. What's the problem with hold AFL games there?
Since covid the NFL has been holding games for competition points outside of the US. When was the last time the AFL held a game outside of Australia for competition points?
I don't troll I post facts
The NFL might be a domestic competition, but it's the number sport in a country with a population of over 320 million, and has real ambitions to expand and my money would be on London being the next NFL franchise
The AFL has done well in a small domestic market, but needs to expand, but my money would be on it still being a domestic only competition in 30 years time

Hilarious.

AFL still keeping you up at night.

 

[Bjo187]

It always amazes me that people think Australia holds any relevance on the world stage, have these people ever been outside of the country?

I lived in America for a few years, don't think I heard Australia mentioned once in general conversation or on the news over there. Same when travelling through Europe and Asia. The only sports that spread globally are English and American sports. The reason? They were/are the dominant country in the world and set the culture for a lot of the planet to follow.

 

[Kwality]

It always amazes me that people think Australia holds any relevance on the world stage, have these people ever been outside of the country?

I lived in America for a few years, don't think I heard Australia mentioned once in general conversation or on the news over there. Same when travelling through Europe and Asia. The only sports that spread globally are English and American sports. The reason? They were/are the dominant country in the world and set the culture for a lot of the planet to follow.

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[Bjo187]

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Why did you quote my post? All those sports listed come from famous nations that had an empire and cultural dominance in the world at one time or another during history.

 

[Kwality]

Why did you quote my post? All those sports listed come from famous nations that had an empire and cultural dominance in the world at one time or another during history.

It points clearly where international sports are the big draws. Some are every couple of years & others are annual.

 

[largebus]

195,578 at Bathurst 1000, basically 50k for a 4 day event. 2019 had 201,975 for comparison.
Pretty great considering the shocking weather conditions.

 

[RedV3x]

It always amazes me that people think Australia holds any relevance on the world stage,

It always amazes me that people think Australia should hold any relevance on the world stage we're a very small nation.
That's what makes the AFL statistics ever so impressive.
It makes some Australian Olympic performances impressive.
Winning the America's cup was impressive.
The world's ignorance is their loss.
The world's greatest horse race (socially) is the Melbourne Cup.

have these people ever been outside of the country?

I have travelled widely and Australia isn't mentioned and so are most of the 200 odd countries of the world not mentioned.
I've never heard of the Ukraine mentioned once until now - the list goes on.
but that doesn't mean people aren't interested - quite contraire. People are very interested in Australia.

The only sports that spread globally are English and American sports.

No, but a number of relatively modern professional sports.

The reason?

The reach of the British Empire in it's commonwealth.
The resources of the North American countries.
Weather and wealth has a lot to do with it.

 

[Bjo187]

It always amazes me that people think Australia should hold any relevance on the world stage we're a very small nation.
That's what makes the AFL statistics ever so impressive.
It makes some Australian Olympic performances impressive.
Winning the America's cup was impressive.
The world's ignorance is their loss.
The world's greatest horse race (socially) is the Melbourne Cup.




I have travelled widely and Australia isn't mentioned and so are most of the 200 odd countries of the world not mentioned.
I've never heard of the Ukraine mentioned once until now - the list goes on.
but that doesn't mean people aren't interested - quite contraire. People are very interested in Australia.


No, but a number of relatively modern professional sports.


The reach of the British Empire in it's commonwealth.
The resources of the North American countries.
Weather and wealth has a lot to do with it.

I don't think Australia needs to hold relevance internationally. I'm speaking of the expectation that AFL should or would ever go international is an unrealistic expectation. I often hear leaguies say 'well if it's so good why is it only popular in Australia', it's a complete niavety as to how the world works. Even American football isn't played professionaly outside of the u.s and it's been the most famous country on earth for at least the past 70 years, with its culture constantly in everybody's face.

 

[Kwality]

I don't think Australia needs to hold relevance internationally. I'm speaking of the expectation that AFL should or would ever go international is an unrealistic expectation. I often hear leaguies say 'well if it's so good why is it only popular in Australia', it's a complete niavety as to how the world works. Even American football isn't played professionaly outside of the u.s and it's been the most famous country on earth for at least the past 70 years, with its cultural constantly in everybody's face.

In this thread, Non AFL ..... it is unfortunate that it is used by some to boost the AFL & criticise other sports.