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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement
 
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If Lachie Whitfield is available, and I don’t think he realistically is, North should go very hard at getting him.

With him on board along with Logue and Goater building, we’ve all of a sudden turned a big weakness (back half of the ground) into a strength.
 
Reckon we’ll trade pick 1 to GWS now. Get 3 and something else to give to the Saints for Clark.

So leave us with pick 2 & 3 and Clark
Or Port give us something else for Clark. Either way I like it .

Ins of Logue, Tucker amd Clark amd a strong draft hand.

Outs; Just Farkknuckle
Out: Jason Huge-Farrknuckle

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AFL trades 2022: Xavier Duursma rules out move to North Melbourne or West Coast to break trade deadlock​

Xavier Duursma has no interest in moving to North Melbourne or West Coast as the trade standoff continues. What does it mean for Junior Rioli and Jason Horne-Francis?

Jay Clark

4 min read
October 7, 2022 - 8:29AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor.../2150aec173abbc361b7fce16f9f26f55#share-tools



Port Adelaide young gun Xavier Duursma has no interest in moving to North Melbourne or West Coast to help break the deadlock in the proposed three-way trade for Jason Horne-Francis.

The Eagles want a promising young player as part of the deal to satisfy the Eagles and trigger a move to send North Melbourne’s Horne-Francis and Eagles’ Junior Rioli to Port Adelaide.

West Coast would slide back from pick two to eight and receive the Power’s future first-round draft pick in return as part of the proposal.

But the Eagles aren’t satisfied with the offering as it stands and want a player such as star key forward Mitch Georgiades to be part of the deal.

Duursma’s future has also come into focus as part of the three-club talks, but the man whose form dipped this year playing 11 games has made it clear he does not want to switch clubs and move interstate.

Duursma has stated his desire to stay at Port and help drive the team back into the premiership mix next season in talks with club chiefs and his manager, David Trotter, from Hemisphere management.

Duursma, an exciting and dynamic wingman, was brilliant in his first two seasons but has struggled with injury issues more recently.

The 22-year-old from South Gippsland was originally taken pick 18 as part of the package Port received for losing Chad Wingard to Hawthorn in 2017.

West Coast list boss Rohan O’Brien will remain engaged in talks with North Melbourne and Port Adelaide on Friday as the three clubs work in good faith to try and complete a deal.

But if West Coast is not satisfied with the proposal it will happily keep pick two and deal separately with the Power on a deal for Junior Rioli to Port.
West Coast is talking tough on Rioli who wants to move to South Australia, in part, for family reasons.

North Melbourne have said it is prepared to keep Horne-Francis to his contract at Arden St next year but there are also concerns about whether the No. 1 pick would happily commit to another season at the Kangaroos following a turbulent first season.

Horne-Francis’ professionalism was questioned this year but there remains high hopes for his playing career once he settles and adapts to the rigours of playing at the highest level.

There remains high confidence Melbourne ruckman Luke Jackson will get to Fremantle as part of a deal for the Dockers’ pick 13, a future first and second-rounder.

As part of that deal the Demons would give something extra back to Fremantle.

That deal will clinch Brodie Grundy’s move from Collingwood to Melbourne with sources close to the deal certain Jackson will get to Fremantle and Grundy will line-up for Melbourne next year.
 
Value wise, it’s obvious to trade it back to 3, you’re getting a player at the same or better quality (Wardlaw, Sheezel, Tsatas), and another 1st round pick and maybe more (where we might be able to pick a key position player).

Needs wise, you pick Cadman.

Who knows though, we might like another key position player later, so many other variables.
 
If Lachie Whitfield is available, and I don’t think he realistically is, North should go very hard at getting him.

With him on board along with Logue and Goater building, we’ve all of a sudden turned a big weakness (back half of the ground) into a strength.

I think it’s the dollars stopping clubs chasing him .. still owed 4 x 1 mil


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GWS have shown previously they're prepared to trade up to get the guy they want, even if he's not the consensus pick, just to guarantee it. It could easily be Tsatas or Sheezel as well.
 
Honestly, i can only see Port not getting their shit together on this. They dont have enough for picks alone, arent willing to give enough to get them or part with players, and are just drip feeding articles out to later claim "what more could we do? Everyone else was being unreasonable, not our fault", while some journos will write the "how could they deny poor jason cuddles from mummy" articles.

But, f*ck em.
 

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Where Horne-Francis was at last night​

Late yesterday The Age’s Peter Ryan reported North Melbourne, Port Adelaide and West Coast were still keeping hopes alive of completing their three-way deal.
The complex trade would see North Melbourne net pick 2, and another pick or player, Port end up with Jason Horne-Francis and Junior Rioli, and West Coast gain pick 8 and a future first-round pick (after splitting their pick 2).
Let’ see if today is the day this deal becomes a reality or whether it floats onto next week
 
GWS lose pretty big in this
3 >>> 8
12 >>> Marshall
Yeah maybe, but would you do 3 & 12 for Larkey & 8 if you were desperately chasing a KPF?

Because Marshall is basically Larkey, he kicked 45 goals last year and hasn’t got near his potential.
 

Where Horne-Francis was at last night​

Late yesterday The Age’s Peter Ryan reported North Melbourne, Port Adelaide and West Coast were still keeping hopes alive of completing their three-way deal.
The complex trade would see North Melbourne net pick 2, and another pick or player, Port end up with Jason Horne-Francis and Junior Rioli, and West Coast gain pick 8 and a future first-round pick (after splitting their pick 2).
Let’ see if today is the day this deal becomes a reality or whether it floats onto next week
That’s simply not enough for a contracted ‘generational talent’.
 
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