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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement
 
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I’ve played football with him in the last few years. Very good footballer and good kid. Got cut from Sydney due to the reduced list sizes.

Today was definitely not his day. Conditions were pox though, and did not suit him. I've heard the same thing, regarding him being a really good kid. I think there's plenty of improvement in him, at the elite level. I hope he gets another chance, at some stage. It doesn't always have to be a B.O.G, to prove someone has it. It can take a couple of key moments where you think sh*t, this kid has something. Last week v GC was definitely one of them.
 

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"Our 3rd or 4th best backman"
"Played forward because he can't be fit down back"
"Shit as a forward"

"Worth a Mid-first round IMO"

Loooooool.
 
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LDU, Sleevo, Bonar with Clark and Dow on the way. ;)
Well Ronnie is gone but that still leaves Xerri (and CCJ who was mentioned.) Seven from 2017 would be funny.
 
If Hawkins is contracted on $300k on the books and they're making that information public or leaking it to the media, it's not because they want everyone to think Hawkins is a great bloke. It's because they want someone else looking another way.

Put another way, if Hawkins is on $300k on the books, he's a silent partner in about six properties, businesses and pubs in the greater Geelong area
But they’re all great blokes and want to win flags and forfeit $1000’s of dollars to keep the band together.

Just ask Jeremy Cameron, who could’ve fetched $2m a year at GWS but chose to come to Geelong for half that.

Great bloke.
 
Maybe not the exact salaries, but perhaps salary bands. So if Hawkins is contracted for #300k in 2023, he would be in the $300 to $350k band. Players would retain some privacy but there would be greater transparency around club salary caps.

Should be part of the next player agreement.
Even a listing of the squad and salary distribution amongst it without names would be handy?

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Semi decent rucks seem to command late first/2nd rounders.
Overrating them how?
Brother, scope out Collingwood. They lost Grundy during the year. Without him they won a number of games with what one would consider to be lesser ruckmen. They proceeded to make a Preliminary Final. They aren’t that important. As long as you have a big dude who is competitive that’s all you need. Scope out the Premiership rucks over the years. Big Blonks. The outlier being last season with Gawn and Jackson. So Meek can stay where he is. We have enough rucks on the list. :stern look
 

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Brother, scope out Collingwood. They lost Grundy during the year. Without him they won a number of games with what one would consider to be lesser ruckmen. They proceeded to make a Preliminary Final. They aren’t that important. As long as you have a big dude who is competitive that’s all you need. Scope out the Premiership rucks over the years. Big Blonks. The outlier being last season with Gawn and Jackson. So Meek can stay where he is. We have enough rucks on the list. :stern look
outside of his paycheck Darcy Cameron is a pretty decent ruckman. Hence why they are happy to offload Grundy and take on 2 lesser paid players who some would consider 'not as good'. Grundy actually struggled more in the 2 ruck system as he's not as effective in the forward or def lines when having to rotate.
Pies won a lot of games due to their defence more than anything else.
That's why there were so many with such a close margin.
 
outside of his paycheck Darcy Cameron is a pretty decent ruckman. Hence why they are happy to offload Grundy and take on 2 lesser paid players who some would consider 'not as good'. Grundy actually struggled more in the 2 ruck system as he's not as effective in the forward or def lines when having to rotate.
Pies won a lot of games due to their defence more than anything else.
That's why there were so many with such a close margin.
How do you predominantly score? :stern look
 
Powell was pick 13. I thought it was Sleevo, as well.

It was. Powell was the first round pick swap with the Dees that got them Pickett (and Freo took Serong with the pick).
 

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Ok lads. Thanks for the response, I'll respond ASAP. In thr mean time, Xmas morning is tomorrow, and Belly has annointed me the official negotiator.

Shall we begin?
Freo fans need to be prepared for the idea that they aren't going to win a trade involving an uncontracted player. Freo have basically no leverage.

Logue wants to come and play for North. North will make a fair offer, somewhere in the range of pick 19-30.

If North get pp11 then Freo have no claim over that. Its weird that Freo fans are getting all wide-eyed at North's PP situation, as if they might get some big win from it.

North can walk Logue to the PSD. You can say that it doesn't happen but thats because teams in this situation realise that they don't have leverage and accept the offer rather than taking nothing.

Its weird that Freo fans seem to think that denying Logue his trade to North and forcing him to go to the PSD would somehow be a risk to North that he could stay in Freo.

Put yourself in Logue's shoes. Why would Freo dragging it out make you more fond of them?
 
Freo fans need to be prepared for the idea that they aren't going to win a trade involving an uncontracted player. Freo have basically no leverage.

Logue wants to come and play for North. North will make a fair offer, somewhere in the range of pick 19-30.

If North get pp11 then Freo have no claim over that. Its weird that Freo fans are getting all wide-eyed at North's PP situation, as if they might get some big win from it.

North can walk Logue to the PSD. You can say that it doesn't happen but thats because teams in this situation realise that they don't have leverage and accept the offer rather than taking nothing.

Its weird that Freo fans seem to think that denying Logue his trade to North and forcing him to go to the PSD would somehow be a risk to North that he could stay in Freo.

Put yourself in Logue's shoes. Why would Freo dragging it out make you more fond of them?

Remember when we offered pick 37 for Benny J and Port refused the offer, so Benny put himself in the draft and we picked him up for pick 37???

Not saying that Log is only worth that but he certainly isn’t worth what Freo fans are talking about and there are “multiple ways to cut a cat” as my former South African boss used to say…!
 
Ok lads. Thanks for the response, I'll respond ASAP. In thr mean time, Xmas morning is tomorrow, and Belly has annointed me the official negotiator.

Shall we begin?
To be fair, you already made your point and what you expect, and we have responded. There is really no need to go back and forth.
 
Remember when we offered pick 37 for Benny J and Port refused the offer, so Benny put himself in the draft and we picked him up for pick 37???

Not saying that Log is only worth that but he certainly isn’t worth what Freo fans are talking about and there are “multiple ways to cut a cat” as my former South African boss used to say…!
If we were to use a PP 19 or thereabouts for Logue, I'd expect freo to send something back. Min 3rd rounder, to put the PVI in the 20s.
 
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