List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[hoffseason gains]

Also on the Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

thing, at risk of aggravating the many St Kilda supporters who are populating our thread, two years ago when we got Stephenson he was a contracted former top 10 pick from the same draft as Clark, but younger at the time and had a rising star and more tangible form than Clark but also had a similar down season the year he was traded. We got him for pick 26 and a swap of picks in the 30s + Atu.

 

[roos 10]

Can’t say mate. But just trust me on it

I bloody hope so is it a good sauce

 

[Le Grille]

Your boy started the rumour that he is coming to North. All I did was attempt to apply realistic input here.

After the last week of you boys talking priority pickabonanza on here. I think it’s required.

Here’s a tip if you come on to another clubs board, expect the posts to be from that clubs perspective.

I think the Roos would be better served getting logue for the future second something else for the future 3rd.

North should leave the saints list exactly where it is including hill and wishing them good luck in their list recalibration which is probably why Clark was even uttered in the first place

Oh and show a bit more respect when you visit before giving your unsolicited opinion

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

We’ll go into the 2023 draft with ZERO picks

Based on the Hawthorn experience, you wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Passmore]

Also on the Hunter Clark thing, at risk of aggravating the many St Kilda supporters who are populating our thread, two years ago when we got Stephenson he was a contracted former top 10 pick from the same draft as Clark, but younger at the time and had a rising star and more tangible form than Clark but also had a similar down season the year he was traded. We got him for pick 26 and a swap of picks in the 30s + Atu.

And they get salary cap relief to keep Brad Hill. Win/win in my books.

 

[DesertRoo]

I think your all missing the context in what was said.

Clark is gettable.

Which would mean we are open to offers. But that’s the equivalent to seeing what’s out there and biting if something too good to be true has come up.

We aren’t selling him or trying to bin him.

Basically the afl ****ed both of us, there’s no way with our capital we can get it done without screwing you guys.

 

[Roos1991]

And....what do you propose to give up for Hunter Clark???

On SM-F711B using BigFooty.com mobile app

If Clark wants to leave, a future second rounder from a team likely to finish bottom 2 in a stacked draft is actually not that bad. Not great for a first round talent but still not the worst. Guess it'll depend on how much Clark wants to leave and if other clubs pop up with better offers for the Saints.

 

[Psicosis]

Joey7 has form.

 

[stavro#4]

Basically the afl *ed both of us, there’s no way with our capital we can get it done without screwing you guys.

You aren’t the only club who’s keen.

GWS is also apparently keen.

 

[roos 10]

Joey7 has form.

What’s his form

 

[DesertRoo]

You aren’t the only club who’s keen.

GWS is also apparently keen.

It’ll come down to where he wants to go.

 

[bird_man]

Also on the Hunter Clark thing, at risk of aggravating the many St Kilda supporters who are populating our thread, two years ago when we got Stephenson he was a contracted former top 10 pick from the same draft as Clark, but younger at the time and had a rising star and more tangible form than Clark but also had a similar down season the year he was traded. We got him for pick 26 and a swap of picks in the 30s + Atu.

Same year Collingwood gave away Treloar and paid his salary

We are not in the desperate situation Collingwood were in 2 years ago

Its not a great comparison

 

[Psicosis]

What’s his form

Check their posting history

 

[Psicosis]

Same year Collingwood gage away Treloar and paid his salary

We asked in the desperate situation Collingwood were in 2 years ago

Its not a great comparison

70+ years is pretty desperate times IMO

 

[Passmore]

Same year Collingwood gave away Treloar and paid his salary

We are not in the desperate situation Collingwood were in 2 years ago

Its not a great comparison

Then there has to be more hairs on Clark than Sasquatch. He’s 23, talented, a leader and St Kilda are putting him out there. What’s the catch?

 

[Makeshift Park]

Thats what I heard.
I don't like it myself.
Our future first could be pick 1 in a strong draft.
But that is what I heard.

I respect that and cheers for sharing it.
Nothwithstanding all the different probable outcomes in the 2023 season, would’ve thought our future 2nd would be better for both parties tho?

 

[Horizons_00]

I haven’t heard much about Clark. Is he a good player? Lol

 

[stavro#4]

It’ll come down to where he wants to go.

So it might mean he doesn’t get traded.

Again, we aren’t forcing him out. Which is what I’m trying to tell you guys.

Same way Hill isn’t being salary dumped.

Fair enough, your board and you guys can create and believe in any narrative you want.

I could realistically. See Hill going for either of your second rounders next year however.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Check their posting history

JHF extension to be announced at thr BnF?

 

[Le Grille]

What about PPF2nd and PPF3rd for Logue and 2022 3rd

 

[buttox]

I respect that and cheers for sharing it.
Nothwithstanding all the different probable outcomes in the 2023 season, would’ve thought our future 2nd would be better for both parties tho?

The info comes from the saints camp.
That's all I know mate.
I feel like I'm badgering the person telling me the info if I ask too much.
I would be a terrible journalist.

 

[Le Grille]

So it might mean he doesn’t get traded.

Again, we aren’t forcing him out. Which is what I’m trying to tell you guys.

Same way Hill isn’t being salary dumped.

Fair enough, your board and you guys can create and believe in any narrative you want.

I could realistically. See Hill going for either of your second rounders next year however.

Good all I see posted is what we think north would give up, if it doesn’t happen no skin off our nose. Again happy to miss on him.

 

[DesertRoo]

So it might mean he doesn’t get traded.

Again, we aren’t forcing him out. Which is what I’m trying to tell you guys.

Same way Hill isn’t being salary dumped.

Fair enough, your board and you guys can create and believe in any narrative you want.

I could realistically. See Hill going for either of your second rounders next year however.

That we’ll may be the case, so I clearly don’t see how we come up with that amount of draft capital without screwing our selves in the process, I doubt we take Hill, I doubt we take Clark.
If the afl gave us more we could’ve had something to work with

 

[Roos1991]

So it might mean he doesn’t get traded.

Again, we aren’t forcing him out. Which is what I’m trying to tell you guys.

Same way Hill isn’t being salary dumped.

Fair enough, your board and you guys can create and believe in any narrative you want.

I could realistically. See Hill going for either of your second rounders next year however.

How much of the Hill not being salary dumped is dependent on De Goey's decision?

 

[Sheezel2Wardlaw]

Unless we finish in the bottom 2, that is a shithouse deal for the saints.

Say we finish 15th.
Finish with pick 4 (1,878 points)
Say the saints finish 6th
They finish with pick 13 (1,329pts)

They’re getting rid of Clark for an equivalent of pick 34.

Saints aint finishing higher than 10th next season. Their list is going backwards.