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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement
 
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Would be good if we could trade pick 1 + next years second rounder for GWS' 3 + 14. Ideally we could then trade 14 for Clark + Hill, leaving us with pick 3 (cadman), hill, Clark, logue & tucker which wouldn't be a bad haul.
 

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so list size wise with the 2 extra spots we can go 36 senior list and 8 rookies or 37-7 or 38 and 6

Right now we have 36 on senior list and 4 rookies

4 list spots open

Get rid of atu and jed gives us 6 spots
Maybe turner gives us a 7th or they rookie him

Reckon J Walker takes a rookie spot

Bring in pick 1, cooper, Logue, tucker, Hill and 1 more

Would still payout polecs last year also
 
Sorry to be another intruder on your board, just wanted to say after some initial heartbreak with Logue’s decision I’m actually really excited that he’s going to North. Also really excited for Tucker. They’re both really good people who deserve the opportunities. I’m also really excited to see what Lachie Young can do with a bit more freedom in a really solid defensive unit. Hayden is an awesome player and I don’t think Lachie is too far off in terms of talent.

I live in Melbourne and have always wanted a second team as an excuse to get along to more games. Looking forward to watching North surprise more than a few teams next season.
 
Sorry to be another intruder on your board, just wanted to say after some initial heartbreak with Logue’s decision I’m actually really excited that he’s going to North. Also really excited for Tucker. They’re both really good people who deserve the opportunities. I’m also really excited to see what Lachie Young can do with a bit more freedom in a really solid defensive unit. Hayden is an awesome player and I don’t think Lachie is too far off in terms of talent.

I live in Melbourne and have always wanted a second team as an excuse to get along to more games. Looking forward to watching North surprise more than a few teams next season.

Way to get 50 likes friend. Happy to have you. You might have to change your name to Ascent though.
 
I would prefer Rozee and butters over lukociuos?

There are positive and negative examples for both scenarios. All I know is 1 player doesn’t make the difference unless he is special. Is wardlaw or candman special? You mentioned it falls away after the first 4? I hear this pretty much every year, but it seldom proves true.
What I also know is you are a better chance in drafting a special player with multiple picks rather than putting your eggs in one basket. I’m not a draft watcher but it seems like Brisbane are getting the player that is a cut above everyone else?

In the end it’s all about accessing the talent but it is still guess work. That’s why I think there is merit in having a bit of quantity too.
Personally I don’t think the 2018 super draft is the best to compare. By all reports this draft isn’t that strong. There is a strong top 4 & the general belief is that it really falls away after 10-12.

Understand your point and I’m all for bringing in multiple picks at once, but I don’t agree that we should trade our best draft asset to do that. We have the opportunity to add an absolute A grader to our current mix with pick 1 (becomes pick 2), and I suggest we do that rather then trying to be too cute.

I think we both agree that we need more picks then what we currently have in 2021. I look forward to seeing how we improve it.
 
Then why offer anything at all if we can supposedly get him for free?

We may, we have different people in charge now…it’s not the old skool recruitment team of old that gave up pick 20 for CCJ…It’s a good faith pick…Could be totally wrong but don’t think freo has much power here especially with the same manager managing lobb who they won’t trade…


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Sorry to be another intruder on your board, just wanted to say after some initial heartbreak with Logue’s decision I’m actually really excited that he’s going to North. Also really excited for Tucker. They’re both really good people who deserve the opportunities. I’m also really excited to see what Lachie Young can do with a bit more freedom in a really solid defensive unit. Hayden is an awesome player and I don’t think Lachie is too far off in terms of talent.

I live in Melbourne and have always wanted a second team as an excuse to get along to more games. Looking forward to watching North surprise more than a few teams next season.


You have a sister ? Got a future 3rd rounder for her. Deal ? 😉
 

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Sorry to be another intruder on your board, just wanted to say after some initial heartbreak with Logue’s decision I’m actually really excited that he’s going to North. Also really excited for Tucker. They’re both really good people who deserve the opportunities. I’m also really excited to see what Lachie Young can do with a bit more freedom in a really solid defensive unit. Hayden is an awesome player and I don’t think Lachie is too far off in terms of talent.

I live in Melbourne and have always wanted a second team as an excuse to get along to more games. Looking forward to watching North surprise more than a few teams next season.
I don't mind intruders, unless they come here to start arguments about picks and trade value. As if any of us have any say.

Logue will have plenty of oppurtunity to show what he's got. He'll basically be handed the exact role that he is suited to. I think that money and oppurtunity are valid reasons to switch jobs.
 
so list size wise with the 2 extra spots we can go 36 senior list and 8 rookies or 37-7 or 38 and 6

Right now we have 36 on senior list and 4 rookies

4 list spots open

Get rid of atu and jed gives us 6 spots
Maybe turner gives us a 7th or they rookie him

Reckon J Walker takes a rookie spot

Bring in pick 1, cooper, Logue, tucker, Hill and 1 more

Would still payout polecs last year also
That's more like it. Onwards and upwards!
 
Then there has to be more hairs on Clark than Sasquatch. He’s 23, talented, a leader and St Kilda are putting him out there. What’s the catch?
He doesn’t like short people

Pick 1 for swans 14, 17 and an established backman?

I admit, I am not much good at this
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You have a sister ? Got a future 3rd rounder for her. Deal ? 😉

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We have 1 pick in the first 3 rounds and will probably end up over paying for cooper who looks like a type we don’t even need? This draft is almost a fail before it’s even happened. Getting only one quality kid in a draft where you finished last for the year isn’t a win.
The only way it is a win is if that kid is a one-in-a-generation player.

You forget live trading. We should be able to pick up picks using our future 2nd or 3rd or do a deal with one of the clubs needing a salary dump which will include a draft pick or two they won’t need


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I think that there's a decent chance that after this Thursdays Metro/Country match there won't be much consideration of trading pick 1.

I also don't like these "future 1st for Clark and their 1st" trades. If we do that trade then we need to address our forward line, not depth. Otherwise we surely are trading a top 5 pick.

The only exception being if we are landing Bedford and Gunston in other moves, as well as Clark.
 
I'm copping it for that . I wonder if it's too late to delete post?
Nah, I like your trades. They're a balance to all those other suggestions where it seems like other clubs exist only to strengthen our position (despite years of evidence to the contrary).
Of course I wouldn't want you within a ****ing bull's roar of the recruiting department though!
 
Our future first rounder for saints future first rounder and Clark.
That is the rumour.
Saints want top end draft talent without bottoming out.
I’m 50/50 on this deal

Could backfire big time the top end of next years draft with nick Watson, Harley Reid looks elite but I do rate Hunter Clark highly and saints first pick should still be decent

Could also work out very well

High risk high reward
 
I think that there's a decent chance that after this Thursdays Metro/Country match there won't be much consideration of trading pick 1.

I also don't like these "future 1st for Clark and their 1st" trades. If we do that trade then we need to address our forward line, not depth. Otherwise we surely are trading a top 5 pick.

The only exception being if we are landing Bedford and Gunston in other moves, as well as Clark.
Go for it I say, death riding the saints would make next season entertaining.
 
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