List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[JGreezy]

Clark for the future 2nd rounder seems like a
massive steal.

The PPs seemed low but if we walk away with Logue, Clark and pick 1 then I am happy with the result.

 

[Clarke is King]

Get a load of his kicking - genuinely can't tell which foot is his preferred

 

[The Dingrel]

Sorry to be another intruder on your board, just wanted to say after some initial heartbreak with Logue’s decision I’m actually really excited that he’s going to North. Also really excited for Tucker. They’re both really good people who deserve the opportunities. I’m also really excited to see what Lachie Young can do with a bit more freedom in a really solid defensive unit. Hayden is an awesome player and I don’t think Lachie is too far off in terms of talent.

I live in Melbourne and have always wanted a second team as an excuse to get along to more games. Looking forward to watching North surprise more than a few teams next season.

Congrats on a good season and contract renewal Lachie, best of luck for season 2023.

 

[verypoorboy]

Can someone please explain to me why we have been so bad at the trade table for so long?

So many trades over the past decade and a half that I’ve thought thought we’ve been well and truly bent over in the deals. Yet they keep on happening year after year. And never seems to improve. The CCJ trade last year was very bad, even at that time.

What do you guys think the problem is? Do we just have very soft people at the trade table? Or are they just not very bright? Or is it inferiority mindset of being NMFC and they feel that they need to make something happen regardless of what is being forked over?

Finally, Who have we been hiring to do these negotiations over the past couple of decades and put bluntly why have these people been so bad at their job?

 

[sruss]

Clark rumors are weird. It’d be nice to have a good young player join, but that’s all he is - good, not great. Further, back flankers/ mid is just about the one position we’re not bereft of any talent/ depth in. Further again, how could we possibly pay for him? Again, good young player and contacted to boot surely necessitates a pick between 15-20?

 

[buttox]

Clark rumors are weird. It’d be nice to have a good young player join, but that’s all he is - good, not great. Further, back flankers/ mid is just about the one position we’re not bereft of any talent/ depth in. Further again, how could we possibly pay for him? Again, good young player and contacted to boot surely necessitates a pick between 15-20?

future second PP according to sam edmund.

 

[The Dingrel]

We’re *ed, but this is about as good as we can hope. Rooboys Rool I assume you’re working through the permutations as we speak.

Trade:

2023 R2,R3,R4 > GC > 25,33,43,51
33,43,55 > Bris > 2023 R1
1 + PP 2023 (37) > GWS > 3,12,22
2023 19 > Freo > Logue + Tucker
2023 R5 > Melb > Bedford
66 > Saints > Hill, 27, 2023 R2

PSD: Bruhn

Draft: 3,12,22,25,27,51,73

3: Cadman
12: Humphrey
22: Keeler
25: Cowan
27: Hayes
51: Shubach
~58: Harvey

Best 22

B: McDonald - McKay - Corr
HB: Sleevo - Logue - Cowan
C: Goater - LDU - Hill
HF: Zurhaar - Cadman - Curtis
F: Comben - Larkey - Thomas
R:Goldstein - Cunnington - Jason
I/Cowell Phillips Simpkin Humphrey
Sub: Perez

Em: Hayes Keeler Shubach Harvey Bruhn Scott Taylor Dawson CCJ Ford
Hall Xerri Tucker Bedford Greenwood
Young

It’s gonna have to do.

I'd say you're spot on with that especially having our current back to back syd barker medallist on the bench!

 

[Mjs94]

future second PP according to sam edmund.

He said it would be involved, not that it would be all that it would take. Would certainly be the biggest asset we hand over though as part of that trade.

 

[My Left Foote]

First-round Saint “likely” to join rival as Edmund delivers trade wrap on Grundy, Narkle & more

Edmund has provided a comprehensive trade update.

www.sen.com.au

Hunter Clark (St Kilda)
“We saw the concessions that were given North Melbourne yesterday.
“Incidentally, that future second-rounder, I expect them to use that on Hunter Clark.
“I think that’s likely at the moment as we sit here right now.
“I think that future second-rounder that they’ve been given – a 2023 second-round pick – could be involved.”

I don't know about you guys but I think we might be using the future second rounder that the AFL gave us.

 

[jay317]

Clark for a second is an absolute steal if that's all it is. If we walk out with Logue, Clark, Tucker and Bedford off the trade period that would be near on perfect for a team that just finished last. Add in pick 1 OR multiple firsts and at least Cooper from the draft and we're laughing.

 

[The acurate one]

Hunter Clark (St Kilda)
“We saw the concessions that were given North Melbourne yesterday.
“Incidentally, that future second-rounder, I expect them to use that on Hunter Clark.
“I think that’s likely at the moment as we sit here right now.
“I think that future second-rounder that they’ve been given – a 2023 second-round pick – could be involved.”

I don't know about you guys but I think we might be using the future second rounder that the AFL gave us.

Probably need to sweeten it somewhat, future second plus Polec, Mahony, Lazzaro, Xerri and Spicer.

 

[Le Grille]

Hunter Clark (St Kilda)
“We saw the concessions that were given North Melbourne yesterday.
“Incidentally, that future second-rounder, I expect them to use that on Hunter Clark.
“I think that’s likely at the moment as we sit here right now.
“I think that future second-rounder that they’ve been given – a 2023 second-round pick – could be involved.”

I don't know about you guys but I think we might be using the future second rounder that the AFL gave us.

Or at least he thinks so

 

[buttox]

Hunter Clark (St Kilda)
“We saw the concessions that were given North Melbourne yesterday.
“Incidentally, that future second-rounder, I expect them to use that on Hunter Clark.
“I think that’s likely at the moment as we sit here right now.
“I think that future second-rounder that they’ve been given – a 2023 second-round pick – could be involved.”

I don't know about you guys but I think we might be using the future second rounder that the AFL gave us.

Our PP package is looking 100% better 24 hrs later.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Probably need to sweeten it somewhat, future second plus Polec, Mahony, Lazzaro, Xerri and Spicer.

the sweetner is taking brad hills contract

 

[Le Grille]

Xerri plus PPF3 for Hill and Clark

PPF2 for Logue, Meek and Tucker

 

[Shinboner1]

the sweetner is taking brad hills contract

100%

 

[Shinboner1]

Xerri plus PPF3 for Hill and Clark

PPF2 for Logue, Meek and Tucker

Plus Bedford PSD.
That would be amazing for us.

 

[The acurate one]

Well thanks for that how we getting rid of Mahony, Lazzaro, Polec, Xerri and Spicer now?
FFS!

 

[Le Grille]

Plus Bedford PSD.
That would be amazing for us.

Look it’s unlikely but why not have a stab

 

[Le Grille]

Well thanks for that how we getting rid of Mahony, Lazzaro, Polec, Xerri and Spicer now?
FFS!

My xerri suggestion is more to not spend any more draft capital, even then it’s only because the saints were previously keen

 

[speedy]

Why do the saints want to get rid of Clark? We better do a thorough physical on him (and not the doc we used for polec).

 

[Bazzbot13]

Simple fact of the matter is that players that demand a first round pick are not normally stated by their clubs as gettable or placed on the trade table.

 

[buttox]

Look it’s unlikely but why not have a stab

We cant do 6 new senior players.
5 max + 3 draft picks.
We have 8 open list spots if we delist everyone left without a contract.

 

[JGreezy]

Even if Clark just makes LDU want to stay then that is worthwhile. Let alone if he is actually good, as well.

Or maybe Clark wants to come to North because LDU has told him how much he loves it here.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Well thanks for that how we getting rid of Mahony, Lazzaro, Polec, Xerri and Spicer now?
FFS!

payout polecs final year
mahony or spicer can take his rookie spot and open up another senior list spot