List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Kato]

What the blardy heck is an " F2" or 3?

Pp Future 2 pp future3


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[Tas]

Fair point; GWS are an outlier in any PSD discussion because they can turn their nose up at any pick above 15; suns a bit the same re Martin

They shouldn't though. Even if the pick is shit for you, others would want it and you can keep trading them forward or upgrading picks you have. They just their noses bent out of shape because first contract first rounders were bailing.

It is why I am curious how they handle Bruhn, another first contract player, if they give him the same treatment then the PSD pick might pay dividends, i guess it depends on how cheap Geelong are.

 

[Tas]

Big fan of the salary dump.

Ridiculous that we are only paying 7.5% less than a Geelong with all their experienced players and recruits. Helps bad teams get better faster essentially buying extra picks.

MAXIMUM DUMPS

We are paying 100% of the cap.

We have to pay 95% minimum, you can bring contracts forward but there is a cap in terms of how much you can. I don't think we are remotely close to Geelong's TPP in terms of current contracts. Including contracts brought forward and front-ended contracts vs Geelong back ended contracts there would be a massive difference between the two.

 

[Mjs94]

Tucker told Essendrugs to fluck off and chose us.
He’s alright if you ask me.

Didn't want him til you put it like that, f***.

 

[benbanjo]

We are paying 100% of the cap.

We have to pay 95% minimum, you can bring contracts forward but there is a cap in terms of how much you can. I don't think we are remotely close to Geelong's TPP in terms of current contracts. Including contracts brought forward and front-ended contracts vs Geelong back ended contracts there would be a massive difference between the two.

Yep i would say we are restructuring every year. There are some real spuds getting paid good money because we have no one to pay.

 

[G0ther00s]

lol he has nominated us because we obviously approached him, not because he has a burning desire to play for the wooden spoon team.

I think Clarkson has a role in mind for him. We are going to have to pull a rabbit out of the hat this pre-season to make all these trade happens.

I’m not sure how your first paragraph relates to what I’ve said at all.

 

[giantroo]

 

[shinboner magic]

Edmund: Hunter Clark for future second compo "likely"

Well I'd do that deal 1000 times out of a 1000

Can we please check if he has all limbs attached

 

[Psicosis]

Gee Edmund has sent some anxiety through the Saints board this afternoon…

I’m not sure what’s the best part:

- the fact that they’re a small club with a 70 year drought, 1 flag & 17 million debt, that wants to pot Norf for being an “irrelevant s*** club”.

Or,

- the fact they think any of JHF, Tarryn, LDU or Pick 1 would need to be involved in a trade for Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

.

 

[Agenda 21]

Was Fraser Rosman unlucky to be chopped? I thought he looked alright.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Quite a few busts coming out of the 2020 lockdown draft.

They must not rare Lynch or want to play him in another position. I don't see a Meek/Reeves combo working either.

 

[Blue train 28]

Looking really exciting for you guys , getting some mature age players nominating north.
Logue will add great depth for the backline- 2nd round pick
Tucker - 3rd round
Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

most likely 2nd with exchange for later picks.
Jack Bowes

12

Jack Bowes

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

18.0

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

318.1

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

wants to look around could be a good pick up as well
Adam Tomlinson

20

Adam Tomlinson

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

could get pushed out of Melbourne with Brodie Grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

31

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

wanting to go there. He has 1 year remaining has been averaging 21 disposals 6 marks a game as a key defender in the vfl. Would help the back 6 and let Logue play forward!
Tom Phillips, jackNewnes and Kyle hartighan.
could be handy rookie draft pick ups and add some game day experience
Jack Gunston

19

Jack Gunston

Age

34

Ht

193cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

restricted free agent watch this space.
Tarryn Thomas

26

Tarryn Thomas

Age

25

Ht

190cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.2

4star

CL

0.2

2star

D

12.8

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

0.4

3star

could be swapped for Bowes and a 2nd round pick back to north?
All depending on salary cap as well.
with Archscroft clearly the best player in the draft. I have a feeling north could trade this pick 1 with GWS who will have plenty of first round picks with hopper, bruhn and Taranto leaving. Could open up more options for north list wise and get two top 15 kids or one more experience gun.

 

[Nylex]

2nd round compo for Hunter Clarke. Make it happen Todd Vineys

 

[Tas]

I’m not sure how your first paragraph relates to what I’ve said at all.

Just that you aren't keen on him, it doesn't really matter if we are keen on him or not in BFland, our club must have offered him a spot if he has nominated us so I assume it is just a formality now.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

If we land a quality player with our PSD1, the AFL will abolish it for good. Just add another rule change to the list.

I think with the stinking turd they dropped on the club’s head, we fleece and and all rules and say feck the lot of you.

Where’s the GOAT?..

Wing

 

[InFineForm]

What the blardy heck is an " F2" or 3?

Future

 

[AnEmptyChair]

absolutely love the players we're linked to. Obviously I've been massive on getting a combo of talented, young-ish players into the club that suit our timeline, as well as some mid 20s guys who can help us win next year, which i personally think we desperately need for the players, fans, and just general belief around the club

again, i didn't think it was possible without splitting 1 and getting multiple first rounders to then on-trade for talented guys like Logue & Clark, and would have absolutely been fine with that, but if we manage to get it done despite my doubts and still keep 1 and next year's 1st then fair ****s to both our recruiters and everyone on here who believed it can be done

Logue and Clark are exactly what we need, Tucker would be very handy, and I think HIll helps us with a lot of our transition problems. A player like Bowes on top of those guys as a salary dump would be ridiculous and make me so optimistic about next year - even moreso than i already am with Clarko at the helm

 

[gokangas]

Seriously, is there a problem at Freo? Seems to be a lot of players wanting out.

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Gee Edmund has sent some anxiety through the Saints board this afternoon…

I’m not sure what’s the best part:

- the fact that they’re a small club with a 70 year drought, 1 flag & 17 million debt, that wants to pot Norf for being an “irrelevant s*** club”.

Or,

- the fact they think any of JHF, Tarryn, LDU or Pick 1 would need to be involved in a trade for Hunter Clark.

They're like Hot Dog salesman who thinks they run a 3 Michelin Star Restaurant. Most delusional supporters in the league.

 

[TheBigHorne]

Looking really exciting for you guys , getting some mature age players nominating north.
Logue will add great depth for the backline- 2nd round pick
Tucker - 3rd round
Hunter Clark most likely 2nd with exchange for later picks.
Jack Bowes wants to look around could be a good pick up as well
Adam Tomlinson could get pushed out of Melbourne with Brodie Grundy wanting to go there. He has 1 year remaining has been averaging 21 disposals 6 marks a game as a key defender in the vfl. Would help the back 6 and let Logue play forward!
Tom Phillips, jackNewnes and Kyle hartighan.
could be handy rookie draft pick ups and add some game day experience
Jack Gunston restricted free agent watch this space.
Tarryn Thomas could be swapped for Bowes and a 2nd round pick back to north?
All depending on salary cap as well.
with Archscroft clearly the best player in the draft. I have a feeling north could trade this pick 1 with GWS who will have plenty of first round picks with hopper, bruhn and Taranto leaving. Could open up more options for north list wise and get two top 15 kids or one more experience gun.

This is all fine but the bolded

 

[Smoocher]

Gee Edmund has sent some anxiety through the Saints board this afternoon…

I’m not sure what’s the best part:

- the fact that they’re a small club with a 70 year drought, 1 flag & 17 million debt, that wants to pot Norf for being an “irrelevant s*** club”.

Or,

- the fact they think any of JHF, Tarryn, LDU or Pick 1 would need to be involved in a trade for Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

.

The best part about the saints supporters melts is that they don't realise how close they are to bottoming out, and becoming irrelevant for 10 years.

They have hardly any under 23 talent and have maxed out their TPP.





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[shinboner magic]

Saints are bloody invisible

They cop no heat whatever they do

 

[giantroo]

Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

will make a decision on his playing future when he returns from overseas next week but the young Saint looks increasingly likely to be elsewhere in 2023.

North Melbourne continues to lead the race if the contracted Clark departs, but it’s understood Essendon also plans to meet with him when he is back in Melbourne.

He has one season to run on the deal he signed in March last year and a trade would need to be struck if he is to leave Moorabbin.

The 23-year-old, the No.7 pick in the 2017 draft, has looked a budding star at times but endured repeat collision injuries in the past two seasons that interrupted his progress.

Clark sustained a severely broken jaw last year in a high-profile incident with Adelaide’s David Mackay

14

David Mackay

Age

37

Ht

181cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

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D

17.0

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

315.4

4star

D

16.5

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.0

3star

MG

265.5

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.2

3star

, who was ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing at the tribunal.

His start to this season was delayed when he hurt the AC joint on his right side in a pre-season clash with Bomber Dyson Heppell, before he suffered a compound fracture of his nose in a collision with teammate Dan Butler.

That run of horror luck has contributed to Clark weighing up whether he needs a fresh start.

There is also a belief the 68-gamer can be too comfortable at times and won’t realise his potential at St Kilda.

At his best, Clark combines excellent composure with silky skills and has most often been used at half-back but was drafted as a midfielder.

Opposition clubs believe he is gettable for a selection in the 20s, with the future second-round pick the AFL awarded the Kangaroos, as part of its assistance package, potentially the key to unlocking a deal.

They don’t have a selection in that region this year but are open to ‘splitting’ the No.1 pick as they eye an active trade period, with Dockers Griffin Logue

19

Griffin Logue

Age

27

Ht

193cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

115.4

2star

D

9.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

2star

MG

115.4

2star

D

9.8

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

115.4

2star

and Darcy Tucker

13

Darcy Tucker

Age

28

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.3

5star

MG

239.7

4star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.3

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

234.8

4star

already nominating them.

The Bombers’ draft hand this year includes picks four, 22, 40 and 58.

Clark is close with North’s fellow ex-Dandenong Stingrays Luke Davies-Uniacke

9

Luke Davies-uniacke

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

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D

13.1

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

CL

2.0

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

and Aiden Bonar

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Aiden Bonar

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

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Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.8

5star

MG

101.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

MG

101.0

2star

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

but that is just one factor as he considers where he will be most challenged and play his best football.

 

[WesternRoo27]

Logue, Tucker and Clark (if it actually happens) all good pickups. Can’t really see Hill trade getting done due to lack of trade capital. Saints not really stretched salary cap wise. If we can get Bowes cheap that would complete a quality off season. Seems that for list balance Cadman would be the best option for pick 1 but the big 3 of Wardlaw, Sheezel and Tsatis hard to overlook.

 

[Psicosis]

“Opposition clubs believe he is gettable for a selection in the 20s, with the future second-round pick the AFL awarded the Kangaroos, as part of its assistance package, potentially the key to unlocking a deal.”