List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[the flying ham]

Right, can we start stapling this to some peoples heads:

If a club tries to dud another, those who feel they’ve been on the wrong end of the bargain will remember. With live trading on draft night, you never know when you might need to call in a favour.

“The occurrence and the regularity of a win-loss scenario is very rare now.

Staple it to the top of the thread as well!

 

[DesertRoo]

I could see GWS drafting mids to replace the two they are losing but you're right, the gamble is they take Cadman as more of a need. I imagine they'd probably be fine sitting where they are and taking Tsatas.

There could be a situation where they are desperate for Cadman, we get 3 and an early teen pick (Richmond first perhaps) and still have Wardlaw/Sheezel slip to us and then go for Jefferson as a KPF option.

Keeler is the key forward option I want, he does things that others can’t.

 

[blackshadow]

Mad Monday would be at a whole new level..

Dwarf burning is rather passe these days.

 

[Le Grille]

Right, can we start stapling this to some peoples heads:

If a club tries to dud another, those who feel they’ve been on the wrong end of the bargain will remember. With live trading on draft night, you never know when you might need to call in a favour.

“The occurrence and the regularity of a win-loss scenario is very rare now.

Still think Richmond won “that trade” comfortably

 

[New_Roo]

This sounds great.

It just neglects the fact that it makes little sense for GWS to trade two first round picks to move up two places. Like us, they are stacked with mids.

If GWS offers 3 and another first for 1, then we probably do it. What people demanding we trade Pick 1 ignore, is the fact that this offer won't come.

Also hypothetically, what happens if we trade Pick 1 & GWS/West Coast take Sheezel & Cadman?

Are they though stacked with mids if they lose hopper TT and Bruhn


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[Psicosis]

How are they stacked?

Losing Taranto, Hopper, Bruhn. Callan Ward will finish end of next season.

They need midfielders.

I expect Coniglio, Kelly, Green, Callaghan, Ash, Whitfield, O'Halloran & Perryman all to run through the mid moving forward. This draft is also full of mids, so they'll be able to get some with their other firsts if they need.

This time last year, they were vocal on the fact that a KPF was their biggest need. I don't expect that to have changed. The fact that Cadman is a GWV Rebel, only would make him more appealing.

Which takes me back to my point, why would they overpay for Pick 1? They won't IMO.

 

[Le Grille]

Keeler is the key forward option I want, he does things that others can’t.

What’s his physicality like. I haven’t seen a lot but what I did see he seemed to get pushed off the ball quite easily, sure he can gain strength but was it a bad day or an actual weakness

 

[The Dingrel]

When I first met my wife she had a friend that everyone called "Blowie". I dared ask why, and it was confirmed as extremely unsubtle.

I suspect either you've been happily married ever since, or she's lost the knickname.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I could see GWS drafting mids to replace the two they are losing but you're right, the gamble is they take Cadman as more of a need. I imagine they'd probably be fine sitting where they are and taking Tsatas.

There could be a situation where they are desperate for Cadman, we get 3 and an early teen pick (Richmond first perhaps) and still have Wardlaw/Sheezel slip to us and then go for Jefferson as a KPF option.

100% they could go with midfielders.

They wanted key forwards last year, but they did pick up a key forward in Wade Derksen in the mid-season draft who showed plenty in his short time at the club.

Hogan, Himmelberg, Riccardi and Derksen is pretty solid key forward depth.

 

[DesertRoo]

What’s his physicality like. I haven’t seen a lot but what I did see he seemed to get pushed off the ball quite easily, sure he can gain strength but was it a bad day or an actual weakness

He’s still a kid, but looks fairly broad across the shoulders, I think he’ll fill out over time.

 

[Psicosis]

I could see GWS drafting mids to replace the two they are losing but you're right, the gamble is they take Cadman as more of a need. I imagine they'd probably be fine sitting where they are and taking Tsatas.

There could be a situation where they are desperate for Cadman, we get 3 and an early teen pick (Richmond first perhaps) and still have Wardlaw/Sheezel slip to us and then go for Jefferson as a KPF option.

Yep.

I'd be fine with trading Pick 1 for Pick 3 and another first rounder. My point is, I don't think GWS would do it. I also don't think we should be doing it to get Cadman, because I think there is a high possibility GWS reach for him.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

What’s his physicality like. I haven’t seen a lot but what I did see he seemed to get pushed off the ball quite easily, sure he can gain strength but was it a bad day or an actual weakness

He doesn't have the brute strength to throw his body around at the moment, he is still very lean and raw. But in saying that he doesn't mind attacking packs and throwing his body at the aerial contests. His upside compared to Jefferson is huge.

 

[the flying ham]

Still think Richmond won “that trade” comfortably

Really LG? First I've heard you mention it

 

[Horace]

Are they though stacked with mids if they lose hopper TT and Bruhn


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Please in future refer to him as Taranto. I skipped a few pages and had aminor heart moment when I thought you meant our TT. How can this be was the alarming thought that ran through my head.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Yep.

I'd be fine with trading Pick 1 for Pick 3 and another first rounder. My point is, I don't think GWS would do it. I also don't think we should be doing it to get Cadman, because I think there is a high possibility GWS reach for him.

Agreed, I've based it solely on the expectation that they are keen on Cadman and think we might have him in sight.

 

[the flying ham]

Agreed, I've based it solely on the expectation that they are keen on Cadman and think we might have him in sight.

What's the likelihood we just take cadman at 1? Will we bid on ashcroft?

 

[Orange Peanut]

I suspect either you've been happily married ever since, or she's lost the knickname.

It wasnt my wife's nickname. Good grief that would be a false advertising claim that could fund the ACCC for decades.

 

[deano28]

I’d really like to know what GC want in return for Bowes and pick 7 , I doubt that they would just giving it away in order to salary dump . There has to be more to it .

 

[The Anvil]

What's the likelihood we just take cadman at 1? Will we bid on ashcroft?

I'd be disappointed if we didn't bid on Ashcroft.

As for Cadman at pick 1, I'd think as likely as it was that we would pick Philips with the 2nd live pick in the 2020 draft.

 

[Le Grille]

What's the likelihood we just take cadman at 1? Will we bid on ashcroft?

That’s quickly becoming my preference

 

[Le Grille]

I’d really like to know what GC want in return for Bowes and pick 7 , I doubt that they would just giving it away in order to salary dump . There has to be more to it .

Might be where Bowes wants to go too

 

[buttox]

I don't mind Tucker, but I would take Bowes over him everyday of the week, even with the rumoured contract figure.

Bowes a far better player.

At a guess Tucker would be 300-350k
Bowes 850k.
He would want to be better.
500k is another good player.

 

[speedy]

Geelong in the hunt for Bowes plus pick 7?
So all these priority picks GC received basically was a back door way of giving the privileged vic clubs access to more players and draft picks. Equalization....ha!

 

[Hazey1977]

Campbells was pretty good for them this year.

Cost me $500 in my DreamTeam GF did old Tommy! Coming on and taking points off Marshall!

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[speedy]

I’d really like to know what GC want in return for Bowes and pick 7 , I doubt that they would just giving it away in order to salary dump . There has to be more to it .

Their cap is so farrrked up they cant afford to pay the Bowes contract or the contract of the pick 7 draft pick. After the initial 2 year contract pick 7 must get min $450,000 contract. Plus they are going to receive pick 5 from adelaide for rankine. Pick 7 is expendable, they will do the deal for a late draft pick.

That is my understanding anyway.