List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[blackshadow]

That’s simply not enough for a contracted ‘generational talent’.

Exactly

Pick 2 and another player or pick?

Unless that other player is Butters GAGF.

Otherwise it’s pick 2, F1 and Sinn

 

[Devington]

That’s simply not enough for a contracted ‘generational talent’.

Depends on the pick or player. 2 and butters would go alright eh?

 

[benbanjo]

Where are port going to get the capital needed for this,
we will need pretty much 3 first rounders to let him go or 2 very high first rounders.
They gona need to let some good players go and by good i don't mean ones they think are good.

Heard they trying to offer the tarps as part of the deal too.

 

[Shagga is all Class]

Honestly, i can only see Port not getting their s**t together on this.

But, f*ck em.

Port and Brisbane are classic examples of getting in someone's ear and then behaving like Dodoro on steroids in not getting a deal done.

Not one of Port's players appears to have any interest in leaving and like Brisbane, their draft capital is completely overextended in satisfying other clubs and more importantly, the players and prospects they have made promises to.

Hey JHF, do you feel like hanging yourself out to dry? Here is a 4 by 800K contract but we only want to give a packet of twisties.

 

[Shermanator]

Where are port going to get the capital needed for this,
we will need pretty much 3 first rounders to let him go or 2 very high first rounders.
They gona need to let some good players go and by good i don't mean ones they think are good.

Heard they trying to offer the tarps as part of the deal too.

Yeah David Kock thought he was some sort of AFL savant ringing and txting a little boy :awkwardlook, but all he‘s achieved is digging a big **** off grand canyon sized hole for his Tarpies recruitment team.

It’s beautiful to watch

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Depends on the pick or player. 2 and butters would go alright eh?

Close.

 

[benbanjo]

Yeah David Kock thought he was some sort of AFL savant ringing and txting a little boy :awkwardlook, but all he‘s achieved is digging a big * off grand canyon sized hole for his Tarpies recruitment team.

It’s beautiful to watch

He thought his business builders workshops would entice people to join too i imagine.

The prick has been spinning shit in the media all year about JHF leaving and didn't even prepare the required capital.

Tell them butters and pick 8 or go polish that ugly head of yours.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

As an apropos of nothing, I’m loving the Geelong lowball tactic of offering absolute shit and expecting clubs to bow down and assume the position.

 

[Tiberius]

I think it’s the dollars stopping clubs chasing him .. still owed 4 x 1 mil


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Realistically, it's probably only Geelong who could afford to take him and his contract on board.

 

[BoomerRoo]

The below is from a player manager mate:

Put simply, “Generational Talent” deserves a ****ing better deal than pick#8 and Bonner! Port are ****ed for options at the moment, they clearly need help getting this done!

Something we all know

 

[Makeshift Park]

Depends on the pick or player. 2 and butters would go alright eh?

Surely, surely Port wouldn't agree to that.

 

[King Corey]

Possible elements to make up a trade from our pov mentioned in the media so far.

Draft Picks:
2022 #2 (WC)
2022 #8 (PA)
2023 R1 (PA)

Players:
Tier 1
Butters
Houston (to WC)
Georgiades (to WC)

Tier 2
Sinn
Bergman

Tier 3
Duursma
Bonner

For mine the minimum return is 2022 pick + 2023 pick from that group + an additional R2 selection preferably for 2023.

eg 2022 #2 + 2023 R1 + 2023 R2 (don't care whose)

The fine details of the trade would depend on the player tier. Fwiw I would pass on the tier 3 guys as would most on here it seems.

 

[benbanjo]

Port and Brisbane are classic examples of getting in someone's ear and then behaving like Dodoro on steroids in not getting a deal done.

Not one of Port's players appears to have any interest in leaving and like Brisbane, their draft capital is completely overextended in satisfying other clubs and more importantly, the players and prospects they have made promises to.

Hey JHF, do you feel like hanging yourself out to dry? Here is a 4 by 800K contract but we only want to give a packet of twisties.

Yeah both Port and Brisbane taking the piss.

Brisbane even traded out their first rounder this year, it's funny because the dogs can GAGF for all i care.
Port on the other hand better start providing some good or they can suck a whole bag.

 

[King Corey]

As an apropos of nothing, I’m loving the Geelong lowball tactic of offering absolute s**t and expecting clubs to bow down and assume the position.

To be fair, it works a surprisingly high amount of the time.

 

[Billy Not Really]

It just gets funnier and funnier how Port seem to dig their heels in and not think they're being completely stupid about how they're going about this trade, don't have the capital? Give us a player. Not rocket science, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

I'd prefer Adelaide get involved at this rate, they actually have something we can use right now. Port have to fanagle a big 3 way trade at minimum just to get the ball rolling.

The only negative from this is it obscures what our potential trade for Clark really looks like so long as this JHF remains up in the air. I say put down the phone at Port for being little bitches and start getting into Adelaide's ear, depending on how boring they wanna be.

 

[Devington]

To be fair, it works a surprisingly high amount of the time.

For Gold Coast, yeah.

 

[benbanjo]

As an apropos of nothing, I’m loving the Geelong lowball tactic of offering absolute s**t and expecting clubs to bow down and assume the position.

They did sell the farm for Cameron and gave us a decent pick for a way past it Higgo though.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

If GWS want pick 1, I want a future 1st throw in as well. I want as many shots in the first rd next year as possible.

 

[My Left Foote]

I assume you're being sarcastic. But to state the obvious. We did. Didn't we?

We were told that if we did ask the answer would be no. So we didn't 'officially' ask.

 

[TruRoos7]

GWS have shown previously they're prepared to trade up to get the guy they want, even if he's not the consensus pick, just to guarantee it. It could easily be Tsatas or Sheezel as well.

That as well, We might be thinking the same and going well if they take Cadman at 1 then we go Cheezels and Coldslaw and if they go Cheezels or whomever we might be happy as well to take Cadman and the other mid not taken by GWS.

 

[Tiberius]

It's a measure of how bored I am at work that I ask this question... Anything happening on Trade Radio this morning?

 

[Farthers]

I wonder if GWS would bid on Ashcroft at 1 or not.

 

[My Left Foote]

This guy is way more hit & miss than Sam Farfoud, let's hope this one is a hit.

Also, I do like the way he refers to himself in the third person… what a twat!

 

[Lavy_Panther]

I think it’s the dollars stopping clubs chasing him .. still owed 4 x 1 mil


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Agreed. Having said that, if the Giants are serious about a TPP reset, it wouldn’t surprise me if they offered to pay $200k or so a year to have it off the books. At $800k x 4 I’d certainly do that if I was NMFC.

TBH, I’d do it at $1m x 4, considering the only blokes likely to demand really big bucks in the next few years on our list will be LDU, McKay and perhaps TT.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Dont sleep on Zak Butters...

Butters coming around to the idea of coming home now?