List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Jimmac31]

I've decided to not bother checking for updates until Wednesday 12th ~7pm. This could drag on until the final hour..

I told myself the same thing an hour ago.

I poked my head back in just in case.

 

[Shinboner1]

Heard from a very good source a couple of years ago that we always found it really hard to do deals because we never held much currency in demand. Circa 2019 as we went down the ladder the phone started ringing.

This year we're in the position of holding some wanted resources - #1, JHF - in a seller's market.

This could really set things up for us if we play smart.

Yep it's been the bane of this club for a very long time.
Others are trading their fringe players for 2nds and 3rd and we've been delisting ours because they're no good.

 

[Roo202]

They would rightly be absolutely filthy if any of the managers of players on their list were talking to other teams behind their back...


#potkettle

 

[Only Forwards]

Exemptions to rules.

Of course.

I’m not sure why we even have rules anymore.

 

[TruRoos7]

Right so Kelly and change for pick One!!

Maybe now is the time that Joshy will come to us as every other ****er he thought would stay around bailed one after the other, there is no loyalty there Josh just tell em you want out to Dads old team

 

[blackshadow]

How reliable is this bloke

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About as legit as a three dollar note

 

[Hojuman]

I told myself the same thing an hour ago.

I poked my head back in just in case.

If you were a Poo-oort supporter l'd hope we'd tell you to " pull your head in "

 

[jaspers_barber]

I’m sure this won’t surprise anyone, and I’m happy to be corrected, but I think this is a Geelong problem.

After the Cameron trade and turfing 18 for bruhn, this fits the bill for them to trade the 1st rounder for Henry that the pies want…

 

[ferball]

Possible elements to make up a trade from our pov mentioned in the media so far.

Draft Picks:
2022 #2 (WC)
2022 #8 (PA)
2023 R1 (PA)

Players:
Tier 1
Butters
Houston (to WC)
Georgiades (to WC)

Tier 2
Sinn
Bergman

Tier 3
Duursma
Bonner

For mine the minimum return is 2022 pick + 2023 pick from that group + an additional R2 selection preferably for 2023.

eg 2022 #2 + 2023 R1 + 2023 R2 (don't care whose)

The fine details of the trade would depend on the player tier. Fwiw I would pass on the tier 3 guys as would most on here it seems.

Not enough mate.

Would need Sinn or Bergman instead of R2 next year.

On CPH2069 using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Kangaroos techno]

Just got this scenario faxed to me by Joyce.

Trade 1.
North: Callaghan (we were keen on him last year), pick 3, pick 15
GWS: Pick 1, F2

Trade 2.
North: Butters, pick 2 (i don't care how they get it from WC), PA F1
Poort: JHF

Trade 3.
North: Clarke, F2
Aints: pick 15, F3

Draft.
The player GWS were keen on...Wardlaw...because Hopper and Taranto have left.
North: Cadman + Sheezel

End result.
North: Callaghan, Butters, Clarke, Cadman, Sheezel, PA F1, STK F2
Out: JHF, 2, 3, F2, F3

 

[King Corey]

Not enough mate.

Would need Sinn or Bergman instead of R2 next year.

On CPH2069 using BigFooty.com mobile app

Yeh that'd be the fine tuning mentioned. So 2022 #2 + 2023 R1 + Sinn/Bergman. Close to the pin.

 

[SmallRoo]

Just got this scenario faxed to me by Joyce.

Trade 1.
North: Callaghan (we were keen on him last year), pick 3, pick 15
GWS: Pick 1, F2

Trade 2.
North: Butters, pick 2 (i don't care how they get it from WC), PA F1
Poort: JHF

Trade 3.
North: Clarke, F2
Aints: pick 15, F3

Draft.
The player GWS were keen on...Wardlaw...because Hopper and Taranto have left.
North: Cadman + Sheezel

End result.
North: Callaghan, Butters, Clarke, Cadman, Sheezel, PA F1, STK F2
Out: JHF, 2, 3, F2, F3

No way GWS give up Callaghan for that. They rate him very very highly. Wait until he gets his foot issue right.

 

[Roo202]

I don't think freeing up a F2 is going to solve this on it's own. PA played in prelims in 2020 and 2021, if they return there next year, that F2 is 33-36.

I don't think 8, F1, F2 directly with us gets it done.

The three-way trade with WC, needed more from PA to both us and WC, so one F2 doesn't solve that either.

Regardless, are there any extenuating circumstances as to why there would be an exception to the rules here? If PA are trying to bring in more value than they have in available draft collateral, surely they have to free up more collateral by trading out players?

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Port absolutely kidding themselves trying to get JHF without giving up anything of substance. Amateur hour.

Their board has some hilarious posts listing all these previous trades with picks only. Apparently now that they want something they are being forced to trade a player because of vicbias.
You want last years contracted #1, a couple of spuds on the side and your best picks are mediocre, but you don't want to give up one decent asset?

 

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[TheBigHorne]

Their board has some hilarious posts listing all these previous trades with picks only. Apparently now that they want something they are being forced to trade a player because of vicbias.
You want last years contracted #1, a couple of spuds on the side and your best picks are mediocre, but you don't want to give up one decent asset?

I'm so tempted to pick out the shitty posts on their board and roast them

 

[Kangaroos techno]

No way GWS give up Callaghan for that. They rate him very very highly. Wait until he gets his foot issue right.

If you want to make an omelette you've got to crack some eggs.

 

[giantroo]

Several AFL clubs are hoping they can go against the rules on trading future picks and send out their 2023 selections to unlock deals.

AFL Media’s Cal Twomey reports the league could give exemptions meaning teams, who are currently restricted by the rule which states you must use at least one first-round pick across a four-year period - and ideally two.

For example West Coast would need an exemption to trade out a first-round pick having only made one first-round pick in the last four years.

“Clubs are looking to see if there are provisions within rules that could allow them to trade out their future first and second-round picks to unlock deals,” he wrote.

“Exemptions are allowed in the ‘two first-rounders in four years’ rule. Could shape a few of the big deals to come.”

 

[Ashley B]

I don't think freeing up a F2 is going to solve this on it's own. PA played in prelims in 2020 and 2021, if they return there next year, that F2 is 33-36.

I don't think 8, F1, F2 directly with us gets it done.

The three-way trade with WC, needed more from PA to both us and WC, so one F2 doesn't solve that either.

Regardless, are there any extenuating circumstances as to why there would be an exception to the rules here? If PA are trying to bring in more value than they have in available draft collateral, surely they have to free up more collateral by trading out players?

Port getting desperate because it effects us rules will be bent , I actually hope they do all this work and we tell them no still.

 

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[King Corey]

Geelong getting Henry for all the loose change in their glovebox.

 

[Harris 10]

Are they walking away from Dunkley?

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Geelong getting Henry for all the loose change in their glovebox.

So many points!!!!